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    doctawannabee is offline Junior Member 510 points
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    St. James - Anguilla Campus

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    I have a couple questions about this campus.

    Would there be any difference going to this campus as opposed to Bonaire accreditation/clinicals/residency wise?

    This school is in its second semester I believe, so how are the facilities and the teachers?

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    Read and understand St. James Withdrawal Policy Form (I think it is under Downloads). It is extremely extremely bad. If any student has to withdraw for any reason, you are not allowed to join any other medical school for one full year. If you stay out of medical school for one year, all your prior training, education, time, money, etc., is almost gone. No credible school will take you (except may be Windsor). You will have to start all over again. I looked at this school 14 or so months ago and moved on to a better school. This is unique policy designed to keep one trapped.

    Don't join any campus of this school.

    I very strongly recommend to change the Withdrawal policy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by doctawannabee View Post
    I have a couple questions about this campus.

    Would there be any difference going to this campus as opposed to Bonaire accreditation/clinicals/residency wise?

    This school is in its second semester I believe, so how are the facilities and the teachers?
    The Anguilla campus has barely any accreditation (not with IMED, WHO etc) whereas the Bonaire has a lot of accreditation.

    HOWEVER, with the change coming in Bonaire, making Bonaire a state within the Netherlands, the school may lose its accreditation with its home country, which causes the loss of a lot of other accreditations.

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    doctawannabee is offline Junior Member 510 points
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    Quote Originally Posted by canadianchic View Post
    The Anguilla campus has barely any accreditation (not with IMED, WHO etc) whereas the Bonaire has a lot of accreditation.

    HOWEVER, with the change coming in Bonaire, making Bonaire a state within the Netherlands, the school may lose its accreditation with its home country, which causes the loss of a lot of other accreditations.
    So if I do end up going here, would I be able to obtain residency and practice in the US?

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    The website says so but I don't believe it.

    Anguilla only has CAAMHP accreditation ("Saint James School of Medicine - Anguilla was granted provisional accreditation by the United Kingdom and the Caribbean Accreditation Authority for Education in Medicine and Other Health Professions CAAM-HP), no WHO or IMED.

    Edit:
    No ECMFG either, and ECMFG is required to sit for the USMLE's, which are required for residency.
    Last edited by canadianchic; 06-02-2010 at 12:26 AM.

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    Regarding the Anguilla campus -A bit dodgy! First they told me the accreditation is under one veil i.e. the Bonaire campus. I emailed them again and they said that the MD degree comes from the Anguilla campus and that they are in the process of getting an IMED listing. I emailed IMED and they told me that they have not even had an application from St. James Anguilla.
    " I have not received a request from the government of Anguilla to add St. James School of Medicine to IMED.

    Before a medical school is added to IMED, the Ministry of Health, Ministry of Education or other authorized agency in the country where the school is located must write to FAIMER to request the school be added, and to provide the following information:


    • That the medical school is recognized by the government of the country for award of the Doctor of Medicine (or equivalent) medical degree that allows the practice of medicine in that country by graduates of the medical school



    • The date on which recognition was granted



    • If applicable, the university with which the medical college is affiliated.



    • The date on which graduates of the school became, or will become eligible for medical licensure



    • Whether the school has a physical campus in that country and the location (address) of the campus?



    • Whether instruction has begun at the school and on what date. If instruction has not yet begun, when are classes expected to begin?



    • Whether the school has a campus in any other location? If so, please specify location.


    Documentation must be sent on letterhead stationery, with the name, title and signature of the authorized official, directly to this address from the government office:

    xxxxxx
    Senior Research Analyst
    FAIMER
    3624 Market Street
    Philadelphia PA 19104
    USA"
    a further conversation with a St. James official was even stranger as he seemed to have no knowledge of what IMED was, confusing it to Avicenna. Check both directories as St. James Anguilla is not listed. A requirement to get your ticket in Canada is the the Med school has to be on IMED

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    doctawannabee is offline Junior Member 510 points
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    So would I even be allowed to take the USMLEs? Going to the Bonaire campus then over the Anguilla one would be a no-brainer?

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    Quote Originally Posted by doctawannabee View Post
    So would I even be allowed to take the USMLEs? Going to the Bonaire campus then over the Anguilla one would be a no-brainer?
    2010 USMLE Bulletin - Eligibility


    Step 1, Step 2 CK, and Step 2 CS

    To be eligible, you must be in one of the following categories at the time of application and on the test day:

    • a medical student officially enrolled in, or a graduate of, a US or Canadian medical school program leading to the MD degree that is accredited by the Liaison Committee on Medical Education (LCME),
    • a medical student officially enrolled in, or a graduate of, a US medical school leading to the DO degree that is accredited by the American Osteopathic Association (AOA), or
    • a medical student officially enrolled in, or a graduate of, a medical school outside the United States and Canada and eligible for examination by the ECFMG.


    To apply for ECFMG Certification, you must be an international medical student or graduate. This means that your medical school is located outside the United States and Canada. U.S. citizens who graduate from such schools are considered IMGs and are eligible to apply for ECFMG Certification. Non-U.S. citizens who graduate from schools in the United States and Canada are not considered IMGs and are not eligible for ECFMG Certification.
    Additionally, your medical school must be listed in the International Medical Education Directory (IMED) of the Foundation for Advancement of International Medical Education and Research (FAIMER®). If you are a medical school graduate, your graduation year must be included in your school's IMED listing. If you are a student, the "Graduation Years" in IMED for your medical school must be listed as "Current." You can access IMED from the ECFMG website.

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    doctawannabee is offline Junior Member 510 points
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    Are they lying then?

    This is directly from their FAQ section on the Anguilla page:

    USMLE Step 1 and Step 2


    Q.) Are the students eligible to take the USMLE Examination?
    A.) Yes. The ECFMG which is the regulatory body for all foreign medical graduates has granted permission to SJSM making our students eligible to take the USMLE Step 1, 2 and 3.


    Saint James School of Medicine Accreditation


    Q.) Is SJSM a recognized medical school? If so by whom and what is the nature of that accreditation?
    A.) SJSM is recognized by the World Health Organization’s (WHO), the Educational Commission for Foreign Medical Graduates (ECFMG), and the Medical Council of Canada (MCC). Recognition by the ECFMG and MCC allows graduates to take their respective country's licensure examinations, the USMLE Steps 1, 2 and 3 in the United States and the MCCQE and MCCEE in Canada. SJSM’s Anguilla campus has received its initial accreditation from the Caribbean Authority for Education in Medicine and other Health Care Professions (CAAM-HP). SJSM anticipates receipt of official letters of approval for its Anguilla campus from the various organizations listed above, shortly. Please refer to the Accreditation section for more details. In addition, SJSM – Anguilla students will also be eligible to take the PLAB examinations in the United Kingdom.

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    they will give you a few answers, depends who you talk to. I liked the idea of Anguilla for personal reasons, but.. they could not give me a straight answer so I contacted IMED directly. (read last post) I asked CAAMHP if they are responsible for informing or applying to IMED. They told be it is the mandate of the Anguilla government to write to IMED. I talked with an official in Anguilla and they claim it is not their responsibility and that the Campus only has a provisional license. Well...thats the Caribbean for ya.

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