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Old 07-03-2009, 09:48 PM
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It is meaningless to state that a given medical school in NA has or has not been accredited by NVAO. Function of NVAO is to guide and direct the medical schools in NA to reach a given academic standard of education. Such guiding process invariably involves several site visits over multiple years. They also closely watch the intention and method of operation of schools to determine the sincerity of the management. All accrediting agencies all over the world operate this way.
What are you talking about? NVAO is not an academic guidance institute but an accreditation agency and once Bonaire becomes a part of Holland, the accreditation will be required by the Dutch Ministry of Education for St. James to operate. Since the chances of your "sincere" management to obtain this accreditation are very slim, the school prepares to relocate to Anguila.
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Go read something about NVAO and accreditation before posting anything else. No one cares that you say that surely the school will be closed by the weeks end, because it won't be. I see you're spurting this same, "sky is falling, run for the hills," nonsense on other forums as well.
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caribdocky, Do you even understand the what the process of accreditation entails? The school was evaluated last fall, and given a time frame to bring any deficiencies up to standard. The NVAO will be making another visit to check the progress, and to make any more recommendations to get the school in line.

The process is the same as for any other accrediting institution.
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Go read something about NVAO and accreditation before posting anything else. No one cares that you say that surely the school will be closed by the weeks end, because it won't be. I see you're spurting this same, "sky is falling, run for the hills," nonsense on other forums as well.
Go read something about Dutch Educational System before you post anything else. The fact is, since you obviously dont know it, that no school is recognized by Dutch Ministry of Education without NVAO accreditation meaning NO WHO, NO IMED. Since St. James doesnt meet CARICOM accreditation standards, I can assure you that NVAO has way higher standards.
Otherwise what is the purpose of relocating the campus to Anguila?
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relocating?

I have read all oof this but I can't seem to find any evidence as to the rumor? I have been on the conference call and talked to admin.. I meant I know I may be taking their word for it but honestly what else can you do? We are at the mery of what heppens but I have talked to as many folks as I can and I honestly can't find anything that says that the school is moving.. I have read they are expanding but not moving the Bonaire campus. Can anyone clarify where hey heard this and how they know it is a fact? Thanks.
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This is all discussed in greater detail--with explanations of how NVAO doesn't have any authority to accredit, or whatever--on the Sint Eustatius forums, just go look there.

Also, the Dutch came last December, and will be coming again this Dec., and probably the Dec. after that.

The school is CAAM (CARICOM) accredited, fyi.
caam-hp. org/assessed_schools. html#listing (remove spaces)

(BTW, that's is also one of the many forums caribdocky visits and says the school is closing any day now)

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Thats another lie. You would have to read it carefully and dont spread misleading information.
The SJSM bonaire is NOT ACCREDITED BY CARICOM. They applied for accreditation for Anguilla, where the campus doesnt even exist. As you can see below, in order to receive the accreditation SJSM must meet the following requirements. On top of that the initial visit was done in February 2007 followed by another visits every 6 months so after 2 and a half year the campus in Anquila is still not meeting the standards.

Application for initial provisional accreditation was received from the St. James School of Medicine (SJSOM) for the establishment of an offshore medical school on the island of Anguilla. In February 2007, a review was done by the following persons:
Sir Graeme Catto
Professor E. R. Walrond
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The CAAM-HP after examination of the reports agreed that provisional accreditation be granted on the following conditions:
That the school in its promotional material, state clearly, that it is provisionally accredited.
That the conditions for the requirements in the document, Accreditation Guidelines for New and Developing Schools, be followed.


The CAAM-HP will wish to visit in six months time to monitor the progress the school is making towards setting up the facilities for the admission of the first class of students.

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Fact is at the end of the day I can't find anything to support any of these rumors. Where are the facts that support this move? Beyond that the school is accredited enough or whatever you want to call it so that students can sit for the USMLE.. So beyond that what does it matter really? And why does anyone who doesn't go to the school or plan on going to the school care?
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Fact is at the end of the day I can't find anything to support any of these rumors. Where are the facts that support this move? Beyond that the school is accredited enough or whatever you want to call it so that students can sit for the USMLE.. So beyond that what does it matter really? And why does anyone who doesn't go to the school or plan on going to the school care?
Accredited enough? By which accreditation agency SJSOM is accredited? There is not even one that has accredited this school. If you don't believe that please, please prove me wrong.
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Ok...let's clarify some stuff. To my understanding the school is NOT moving, but there is another campus that will be opening up on the island of ANGUILLA!
I know for a fact that preparations are being made, that is, classrooms are in its final stages of completion, and they are hoping to have its first class in the Fall.

However, when i contacted the admissions office, I asked about the other campus on the island of Anguilla, they seemed perplexed and seem to have no idea of that campus, ...well at least to the person i spoke to. Also, if you visit the st. james website, there is a picture in its logo, at the top of the webpage, showing a picture of a harbour, which is found on the island of Anguilla. So why would they be advertising this, if there wasnt any truth to it?

But once again, from the information gathered, the school is NOT moving, it's just opening another campus. Maybe somebody can get proper clarification or someone from the school can shed some light on this. Cause i am very much interested in going to the campus on the island of Anguilla.
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