hi every body:
just for your information i know a doctor in my state michigan who was student in sjsm and now practices here in michigan. i work as a pharmacy tech and have heard many good things a both her i even called her office and talked with her nurse. you guys dont worry , work hard and do your best and one day you will be who you want to be.

actually st james is not recognized by any state, there are a handfull of states that have any kind of "recognition" process for either practice or for clinicals. those are california, new york, florida. even the big schools that have been around for more than 30 years are not recognized by more than 40 states.

also telling people that they will be licensed in 45 to 48 states is highly optimistic. there is california that is out, there are half a dozen states that use their list, another half dozen that use it unofficially. kansas is out because the school has to around for 15 years. texas will be very difficult because you have to prove that yoru school is equivalent to a texas lcms school meaning admission stadrads, facilities, professors, reasearch, etc. so realistically 30 or so states would be very doable, another 10 questionable and the rest unlikely.

good luck

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I agree with this but I think telling people that they cannot be licensed due to the California list is wrong, SJSM grads have been licensed in states that are supposed to use this list. St. Matts is on the Cali unapproved list and yet they have lots of students and Licensed grads in many states too.
The way to really know is for more graduates to get Licensed and in the "Harder" states as well. This is what the Big 4 have done, in fact having California approval does not make "all 50" approval, there have been some denials of students from the Big 4 in a few states in the past. In fact I just talked to an old AUC grad here in Ga about this, he was denied in one state but Ga accepted him for Licensure so he is here ( yea years ago but this proves that times change and assuming that one state is like this and another is like that is just plain wrong.)

The states are Case by case basis and this is true for SJSM as well as the "Big 4" The differences are the Big 4 have approvals in a handful of states and have been around longer.

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i agree 100% with you. basically until a school has more than a dozen grads in a state fully licensed (not residents) then it shoudln't be counted as "good to go". even then, like you said, coming from an established school is no guarantee (recall the ross fellow in texas who was denied license bc one rotation wasn't green in med school?).

also while there have been grads licensed in states using the cali list from non cali schools it is worthwhile to point out that the use of the cali list is relatively new in these states wether officially or not officially it has only been within the last one or two years so while a st mats grad may have gone into say tennesee 2 years ago it is not likely now. so students need to know that the use of the cali list has the potential to be a real issue since it seems that more states are using it..albeit very slowly but use is growing and they shoudl also know that the fsmb recommended states use the list or make one of their own 3 years ago and that is why it is becoming more of an issue.

good luck this whole becoming a doctor is a pain in the rear..no wonder most of us are bitter and disillusioned shadows of our former selves

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Not to get too off topic but I hate the green book stuff, US students can rotate anywhere and do. Caribbean have to bow down to the Green Book (Only in the US if clinicals outside the us then it can be anywhere for the FMG too) .
The 2 standards are discriminatory ( probably on purpose)

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