Thread: Does St. George's University SOM meet the requirements of Ch

I recently read that the Texas Board of Medical Exminers have revised not long ago Chapter 163, Licensure of the Board Rules.

Chapter 163.3 of the Texas Board of Medical Examiners states the following:

163.3. Licensure for Graduates of Acceptable Unapproved Foreign Medical Schools.

An applicant, to be eligible for licensure must:


(1) be 21 years of age;


(2) be of good professional character;


(3) have completed 60 semester hours of college courses other than in medical school or have completed the entire primary, secondary, and premedical education required in the country of medical school graduation, if the medical school is located outside the United States or Canada;


(4) be a graduate of an acceptable unapproved foreign medical school that is substantially equivalent to a Texas medical school;


(5) have successfully completed a three-year training program of graduate medical training in the United States or Canada that was approved by the board on the date the training was completed;


(6) submit evidence of passing, an examination, acceptable by the board for licensure;


(7) pass the Texas Medical Jurisprudence Examination with a score of 75 or better;


(8) be eligible for licensure in country of graduation;


(9) possess a valid certificate issued by the Educational Commission for Foreign Medical Graduates (ECFMG);


(10) have the ability to communicate in the English language; and


(11) have supplied all additional information that the board may require concerning the Applicant's medical school.

and Chapter 163.1 (14) of the Texas Board of Medical Examiners defines the following:

Substantially equivalent to a Texas medical school - A medical school or college that is an institution of higher learning designed to select and educate medical students; provide students with the opportunity to acquire a sound basic medical education through training in basic sciences and clinical sciences; provide advancement of knowledge through research; develop programs of graduate medical education to produce practitioners, teachers, and researchers; and afford opportunity for postgraduate and continuing medical education. The school must provide resources, including faculty and facilities, sufficient to support a curriculum offered in an intellectual environment that enables the program to meet these standards. The faculty of the school shall actively contribute to the development and transmission of new knowledge. The medical school shall contribute to the advancement of knowledge and to the intellectual growth of its students and faculty through scholarly activity, including research. The medical school shall include, but not be limited to, the following characteristics:


(A) The facilities for basic sciences and clinical training (i.e., laboratories, hospitals, library, etc.) shall be adequate to ensure opportunity for proper education.


(B) The admissions standards shall be substantially equivalent to a Texas medical school.

(C) The basic sciences curriculum shall include the contemporary content of those expanded disciplines that have been traditionally titled gross anatomy, biochemistry, biology, histology, physiology, microbiology, immunology, pathology, pharmacology and neuroscience, as defined by the Texas Higher Education Coordinating Board.


(D) The fundamental clinical subjects, which shall be offered in the form of required patient-related clerkships, are internal medicine, obstetrics and gynecology, pediatrics, psychiatry, neurology, family practice, introduction to patient/physical examination, and surgery, as defined by the Texas Higher Education Coordinating Board.


(E) The curriculum shall be of at least 130 weeks in duration.


(F) The school shall provide advancement of knowledge through research.

(G) The school shall develop programs of graduate medical education to produce practitioners, teachers, and researchers.

(H) The school shall provide opportunity for postgraduate and continuing medical education.


(I) Medical education courses must be centrally organized, integrated and controlled into a continuous program which was conducted, monitored and approved by the medical school which issues the degree.


(J) All medical or osteopathic medical education received by the applicant in the United States must be accredited by an accrediting body officially recognized by the United States Department of Education as the accrediting body for medical education leading to the doctor of medicine degree or the doctor of osteopathy degree in the United States. In addition, all medical or osteopathic medical education received in Texas must also comply with Chapter 162 of this title (relating to Supervision of Medical School Students) that requires physicians to register with the board prior to supervising medical students who are not enrolled at a medical school that has been accredited by the Liaison Committee on Medical Education or the American Osteopathic Association. This subsection does not apply to postgraduate medical education or training.


(K) An applicant who is unable to comply with the requirements of subparagraph (J) of this paragraph is eligible for an unrestricted license if the applicant:


(i) received such medical education in a hospital or teaching institution Sponsoring or participating in a program of graduate medical education accredited by the Accrediting Council for Graduate Medical Education, the American Osteopathic Association, or the Texas State Board of Medical Examiners in the same subject as the medical or osteopathic medical education if the hospital or teaching institution has an agreement with the applicant's school; or


(ii) is specialty board certified by a board approved by the Bureau of Osteopathic Specialists or the American Board of Medical Specialties.

Question:

Does anyone know if St. George's University School of Medicine meet the definition requirements of Chapter 163.1 (14) of the Texas Board of Medical Examiners?

Thank you,
First Termer Dad

if you look youll see many sgu grads go to texas. That's really what you're asking? You'll eventually come to realize alot of those proclamations are are so much bluff and pomp. "of good character"? As opposed to the US grads who have free reign to run starkers through the labs? They should worry more about grads of a couple of Us med schools more than sgu. You really want to look at the licensing laws for any given state to make sure your daughter meets that checklist so that come residency time she doesnt get smacked in the face with a requirement she wasn't aware of;

The short answer: sgu grads can go to ANY state in the US.

I thought the change was recent (I may be wrong). Take a look at this thread in the Ross forum: http://www.valuemd.com/viewtopic.php?t=6222

If Ross has a problem with Texas, maybe SGU may have one also?

sgu meets all those requirements. who's really to say if any given school meets the "Substantially equivalent to a Texas medical school " can you get any fuzzier than that? If you read the 163 licensure document sgu fits fine into it. its a university etc with CME credits, does research at WINDREF (the link you provided suggested ross is weak on research), is approved by california (what's wrong with texas that they need ca's approval?). I suspect Ross wont even be effected as much as they worry but time will tell.
However ill check with the school to make folks happy.

SGU is eligible (unfortunately, because o the research issue, Ross...as of yet..isn't)
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Remember this applys to people going for practising LICENSE after residency (not residency) Apparently sgu is ok in ALL states. HOWEVER texas, who doesnt like IMGs, makes it the most difficult. Being BOARD CERTIFIED (not eligible, but actually CERTIFIED*) will make things easier. If you have a question, call HELEN in Licensing at Bay Shore 1 800-899-6337 (i think its extension 203 but I may be wrong)

Helen says she will encourage you to try another state as texas is hostile (insert political commentary here) but yes we are eligable and people go there.

*Board eligible means youve done the requirements to take the boards in your field- ie a complete residency and what ever else you need but not passed your speciality boards yet (taken or have taken but failed). Board ecertified means youve passed your speciality boards.