Originally Posted by stephew

putting aside the incorrect assuption that my pov is not valid because times have changed; actually no the first time the sgu fees went up was just a few years ago. and it was still darned expensive when i went relatively speaking. that's called inflation and the expense of soemthing is all relative to the time. 10K a year 30 years ago would be extreme even if very cheap today. your arguement makes no sence.
the woulda coulda of the loan situation is irrelvant to where things stand now. End of the day you had choices to make. if you chose sgu and its sky high costs, just as i did. You felt the upside outweighted the downside. If you go into sgu the odds are greatly in your favor that you would have got into other cheaper schools. is the price of education too high? that's another discussion all together.

Did you not understand the reasoning? In the past a student had to come back to sgu to redo a first year because the couldnt be licenced after transfering into the second year from S.C. And btw no one is forcing SC students to take the offer. Thank goodness sgu doesnt want to take their money without any consideration of wheter or not they are offering them a useful degree.

I dont think sc students are asking for or need your compassion. if the cost is so obnoxious to you transfer to a cheaper school. Heck if the cost of a med ed was so dear to you could have done better in college and gotten into a cheaper state school in the us. none of us are in the caribbean because we worked too hard in college. you've had 100% of the choice in your decisions. Youre not a victim here. only in the caribbean? Well then may other places take a page out of their book.

Bravo SGU and the deans for their generosity to the sc students. BTW not the first time. Students have been accepted for years to sgu in the audit program. these were students who were weak to begin with. they audit classes for a year and if they do well can matriculate. They must repeat the year but the audit year remains free, even if they drop out or don't matriculate. This program started after one student decided school wasn't for him years ago. The dean's decided not to charge him and the parents wrote a nice letter of thanks. SGU is a money making operation and lord knows there are criticisms i have (and have had some unpleasant conversations about my views with people in the school.). but i give credit where its due and Sgu fully deserves kudos for this.

Originally Posted by stephew

putting aside the incorrect assuption that my pov is not valid because times have changed; actually no the first time the sgu fees went up was just a few years ago. and it was still darned expensive when i went relatively speaking. that's called inflation and the expense of soemthing is all relative to the time. 10K a year 30 years ago would be extreme even if very cheap today. your arguement makes no sence.
the woulda coulda of the loan situation is irrelvant to where things stand now. End of the day you had choices to make. if you chose sgu and its sky high costs, just as i did. You felt the upside outweighted the downside. If you go into sgu the odds are greatly in your favor that you would have got into other cheaper schools. is the price of education too high? that's another discussion all together.

Did you not understand the reasoning? In the past a student had to come back to sgu to redo a first year because the couldnt be licenced after transfering into the second year from S.C. And btw no one is forcing SC students to take the offer. Thank goodness sgu doesnt want to take their money without any consideration of wheter or not they are offering them a useful degree.

I dont think sc students are asking for or need your compassion. if the cost is so obnoxious to you transfer to a cheaper school. Heck if the cost of a med ed was so dear to you could have done better in college and gotten into a cheaper state school in the us. none of us are in the caribbean because we worked too hard in college. you've had 100% of the choice in your decisions. Youre not a victim here. only in the caribbean? Well then may other places take a page out of their book.

Bravo SGU and the deans for their generosity to the sc students. BTW not the first time. Students have been accepted for years to sgu in the audit program. these were students who were weak to begin with. they audit classes for a year and if they do well can matriculate. They must repeat the year but the audit year remains free, even if they drop out or don't matriculate. This program started after one student decided school wasn't for him years ago. The dean's decided not to charge him and the parents wrote a nice letter of thanks. SGU is a money making operation and lord knows there are criticisms i have (and have had some unpleasant conversations about my views with people in the school.). but i give credit where its due and Sgu fully deserves kudos for this.

Originally Posted by jaywalk81

grow up. life isnt fair at times, accept the fact and move on. stop acting like you are still in undergrad or HS and live in a carefree world. this is life, some ppl will have the better end while some the shorter end of the stick. if you want to talk about being in debt, why dont you also include any of the rich students whose parents or whoever are paying their tuition. or just look at the world and see how many ppl in the world are millionaires or billionaires overnight yet some of the others had to work decades to be where they are at? unfair? maybe...but such is life. stop whining.
what sgu is doing is praiseworthy and should be applauded.

Originally Posted by jaywalk81

then what about all those students that decel-ed and such...do u think their tuition and expense are coming out of ours too? i dont think so as many ppl i know have deceled each term and sgu also accepted students into the alternate program every term yet the tuition has mainly stayed the same, sure it has risen the past few yrs, but like what everything in the past few yrs, they all have risen in prices...

Originally Posted by islandhopper

Where do u suppose their tuition and expense come from? It has to come from somewhere...Unless there are other "operation" that SGU has, there is no reasonable explanation other than what we pay to school...Maybe all the tuition collected by the school is a lot more than their actual budget, so they can accommodate all the non-regular students...

Originally Posted by rokshana

really, islandhoper, how much do you think it cost to educate a student down in gnd?
cause let's see the SC students will pay for their housing and such so you can't include that in, so
an additional seat in Bell- 0EC- since its built and well half the students who already paid for them don't use them
lab costs- well since anatomy is moving to prosections and away from cadavers it isn't like they have to get additional cadavers
histo lab - all they need is a seat- same as bell(though people do go) so maybe they would have to have an additional lab group for 2 extra hours a week - so have to pay for extra time for the Tutors- while i have no idea what they are paid, i can't imagine its much.
same goes with cliincal skills , maybe they would have to pay for extra facillitators- again can't be that much.
path lab extra tutor time
extra costs for the paper to print out extra tests, syllabi, etc, and the man power to do that
Did i leave anything out? Maybe, but really how many CS student will take this offer? 10? 20?
And you know what, I bet you the chancellor would make it an out of pocket expense- he is above all an asute businessman and would know that the little it would really cost the school to take in some CS students would be more than made up for with publicity and goodwill that the school would gain.
the biggest expense of educating a med student comes 3rd and 4th year and by then the SC students would be paying full tuition and contributing their fair share.

Schools showed us compassion (some more than others) during Ivan and before after the intervention, we should be able to do the same.

As for the ignorance of those students Dean Lambert pointed out that the SCHOOL didn't even know it would cause aproblem with licensure- situation hadn't occured before, but the school's learned and its the reason now the school has a policy on transfer

and finally- you must not read a lot of ports to know tha saora is FROM grenada, so i imagine she/he?(sorry!!) is probably well versed in the caribbean way of life.