Home Forum Books Links Album Residency USMLE PreMed


Caribbean Medical Schools European Medical Schools Foreign Medical Schools Medical Resources
Go Back   ValueMD Medical Schools Forum > CARIBBEAN MEDICAL SCHOOLS > St. Georges University School of Medicine

Closed Thread
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
  #241 (permalink)  
Old 03-31-2006, 05:44 AM
BabaOriley's Avatar
Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2003
Posts: 199
...

Quote:
Originally Posted by pruritis_ani
???

Are SGU transfers offered free tuition for repeated classes at the US school? I don't think so...are they in effect being rewarded for a monumental error in judgement? Nope...they are being rewarded for excellent work.

If an SGU student transfers, they do it as a regular applicant, with no special favors. If the same offer were made to SC students, I don't think anybody would have a problem with it.

What stinks is special treatment for poor decisions. SGU transfers work hard to get the transfer, and deserve it. To compare them to the SC transfers completely degrades the work they put into it.

If the SC students are good enough, they should apply to and get into SGU, and be treated like every other applicant.
Good points.
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
  #242 (permalink)  
Old 03-31-2006, 09:25 AM
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Posts: 551
Quote:
Originally Posted by mdjd
Dean Lambert,
Your willingness to accept SC students is very admirable. It's outstanding to see this offer being extended, and I think it speaks very highly of your institution.

Please forgive Islandhopper (one of your first year students). You see, he's repeating his entire first year at SGU after "underperforming" at Saba, and paying full tuition for it. So, as you might imagine, he hates to see any generousity extended to SC students. I don't believe he is representative of your institution.

Keep up the good work!

Sincerely,
mdjd
Thanks for the "info"...Very impressive "piece of information"...

You see miss Lambert, there are people on the forum use "false information" for the thrill of excitement. Please forgive his juvenile behavior. Sorry once again for such rude and ill-conceived reply by mdjd.

Sincerely,

Islandhopper

Last edited by islandhopper; 03-31-2006 at 11:02 AM.
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
  #243 (permalink)  
Old 03-31-2006, 10:06 AM
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Posts: 551
Quote:
Originally Posted by mdjd
.
Glad you make some new friends...But will probably disappoint you indiansclink because the thread isn't anything other than the escapades of mdjd and me...Feel free to check out the thread and see if it does provide richer insight to my "anger problem" ...

Last edited by islandhopper; 03-31-2006 at 12:04 PM.
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
  #244 (permalink)  
Old 03-31-2006, 10:18 AM
Moderator Guru
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Posts: 20,979
Quote:
Originally Posted by pruritis_ani
???

Are SGU transfers offered free tuition for repeated classes at the US school? I don't think so...are they in effect being rewarded for a monumental error in judgement? Nope...they are being rewarded for excellent work.

What stinks is special treatment for poor decisions. SGU transfers work hard to get the transfer, and deserve it. To compare them to the SC transfers completely degrades the work they put into it.

If the SC students are good enough, they should apply to and get into SGU, and be treated like every other applicant.
your need to punish students is stunning. Should you be punished for not doing as well in college as we like to expect for our physicians? should you be rewarded for laziness or whatever your issue was with an MD? Shouldnt we guarentee US grads get their first choice of residency first before you can even chime in? Many sgu students are chosen over US grads. Please.
__________________
Steph
If you get a warning, put on yer manpants and stop whining about it.
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
  #245 (permalink)  
Old 03-31-2006, 10:32 AM
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Posts: 552
Quote:
Originally Posted by stephew
your need to punish students is stunning. Should you be punished for not doing as well in college as we like to expect for our physicians? should you be rewarded for laziness or whatever your issue was with an MD? Shouldnt we guarentee US grads get their first choice of residency first before you can even chime in? Many sgu students are chosen over US grads. Please.
Haahahahaha!

If holding to an equal standard is punishing, well then call me guilty.

Your points make no sense at all. They all make examples of how hard work and excellent results can overcome our disadvantage. They do not justify giving special treatment to anyone.

I sucked at undergrad. I worked my butt off, got an MD from a decent school, and got a residency. Nowhere along the way did somebody say "Hey, you did poorly in undergrad, let me give you a tuition discount". Nor did they say, "Hey, despite your clear poor choices in undergrad, we would like to allow you to bypass the typical tuition fees, and join our university".

The fact is, pretty much every one of us has a reason for being offshore for a degree. However, those of us that do well have EARNED it. The point of this is not too punish the SC crowd, but to hold them to the same standards as everyone else. Simple. They did NOTHING that deserves special treatment, period.

Are they in a rough position? Sure are! Would it suck to have to take out more loans and start over? You betcha. Does that matter at all? Nope. They made a bad, bad choice, and there are consequences to poor choices. Rewarding this behavior is not the answer.

You seem to think that fairness is unimportant. There are a LOT of students out there suffering from bad choices. Do you think that only the SC students deserve this? Do you think it is fair to the students who went about getting into SGU the right way deserve to see some classmates next semester getting a free pass? What about those that transfered into SGU from other schools, started over, and are paying full price? How would you like to be that person, and look over and see some SC flunky getting a free ride in the same classes as you.

All of your comparisons to the US students transfering, to residency placements, and to those of us who worked hard to overcome our poor choices are weak, and actually counter your argument. Basically, you feel bad for SC, and think that it is all fine and dandy for SGU to bend over backwards for them. Well, that is great for you! But, many people question the basic fairness of this idea, as well as the fact that this policy would simply be rewarding poor choices.
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
  #246 (permalink)  
Old 03-31-2006, 10:55 AM
Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Posts: 159
SC does it again

Well if the events of today aren't enough to make dean lamber withdraw his offer to the SC students, I don't know what is.

Is anyone aware of the fact that MUA-Belize and SC just merged and that SC is accredited in belize as of today!!! That means that the students previous coursework will be accepted (so says the letter that is posted on this forum and the SC website). Now they have another solutions (regardless of how poor it is) to salvage their past educational coursework.

The offer should be retracted at once for the SC students, because now you may be forced to oblige the MUA-belize students now, as the are all one big happy, dysfunctional, and trans-regional school.

For those who seek proof, the official letters are in SC forum for your viewing satisfaction.

So much for the crisis....aye, steph?

Last edited by acetre; 03-31-2006 at 10:57 AM.
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
  #247 (permalink)  
Old 03-31-2006, 11:43 AM
Chitownguy's Avatar
Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Posts: 125
So if I start at MUA-Belize I can then transfer to SGU? Wow thats pretty easy. Thanks St. George's! Your the best
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
  #248 (permalink)  
Old 03-31-2006, 12:10 PM
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Posts: 551
Quote:
Originally Posted by IndianSClink
Thanks for the explanation. Now I understand the anger behind his words.
Islandhopper, please go to the library and try to make at least 70% ; final exam days are just around the corner. Wish you luck with your first year at SGU.
Thanks for the good luck. Except that our final exams are still months away....Guess you and mdjd are struggling with the same problem -- rambling about what you don't know, huh???

Well Chitownguy I hate to say this, but SGU may well change its position since now SC is merging with MUA-Belize...Maybe SC students don't need our generosity anymore...

Last edited by islandhopper; 03-31-2006 at 12:15 PM.
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
  #249 (permalink)  
Old 03-31-2006, 12:35 PM
Moderator Guru
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Posts: 20,979
Quote:
Originally Posted by acetre
Well if the events of today aren't enough to make dean lamber withdraw his offer to the SC students, I don't know what is.

Is anyone aware of the fact that MUA-Belize and SC just merged and that SC is accredited in belize as of today!!! That means that the students previous coursework will be accepted (so says the letter that is posted on this forum and the SC website). Now they have another solutions (regardless of how poor it is) to salvage their past educational coursework.

The offer should be retracted at once for the SC students, because now you may be forced to oblige the MUA-belize students now, as the are all one big happy, dysfunctional, and trans-regional school.

For those who seek proof, the official letters are in SC forum for your viewing satisfaction.

So much for the crisis....aye, steph?
that's great that the students have some reasonable options. Thanks as ever acetre for your support of your student peers.
__________________
Steph
If you get a warning, put on yer manpants and stop whining about it.
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
  #250 (permalink)  
Old 03-31-2006, 12:41 PM
Moderator Guru
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Posts: 20,979
Quote:
Originally Posted by pruritis_ani
Haahahahaha!


I sucked at undergrad. I worked my butt off, got an MD from a decent school, and got a residency. Nowhere along the way did somebody say "Hey, you did poorly in undergrad, let me give you a tuition discount". Nor did they say, "Hey, despite your clear poor choices in undergrad, we would like to allow you to bypass the typical tuition fees, and join our university".

The fact is, pretty much every one of us has a reason for being offshore for a degree. However, those of us that do well have EARNED it. The point of this is not too punish the SC crowd, but to hold them to the same standards as everyone else. Simple. They did NOTHING that deserves special treatment, period.

Are they in a rough position? Sure are! Would it suck to have to take out more loans and start over? You betcha. Does that matter at all? Nope. They made a bad, bad choice, and there are consequences to poor choices. Rewarding this behavior is not the answer.

You seem to think that fairness is unimportant. There are a LOT of students out there suffering from bad choices. Do you think that only the SC students deserve this? Do you think it is fair to the students who went about getting into SGU the right way deserve to see some classmates next semester getting a free pass? What about those that transfered into SGU from other schools, started over, and are paying full price? How would you like to be that person, and look over and see some SC flunky getting a free ride in the same classes as you.

All of your comparisons to the US students transfering, to residency placements, and to those of us who worked hard to overcome our poor choices are weak, and actually counter your argument. Basically, you feel bad for SC, and think that it is all fine and dandy for SGU to bend over backwards for them. Well, that is great for you! But, many people question the basic fairness of this idea, as well as the fact that this policy would simply be rewarding poor choices.
i dunno. you failed to make the grade to get into a us school. Using a dodge to get around your failure to achieve by going abroad has let you practice as a doc in the same country that felt you weren't qualified for med school admission by current standards. Sounds like special treatment to me. Maybe if sgu smacks all sc students on the nose with their rolled up admission form it will be ok? Ive yet to hear anything but bitterness guiding your objection. if sc students have done well and are good enough to get into sgu (ie are held to the same standards which was never the issue by the way), to quote a wise man, They EARNED it.
__________________
Steph
If you get a warning, put on yer manpants and stop whining about it.
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Closed Thread

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On
Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
International Med Students in a Bind (GMC-Atlanta story) azskeptic The Relaxing Lounge 18 03-08-2008 08:38 PM
Kigezi is pure fraud ! truthbknown Main Foreign Medical Schools Forum 49 11-04-2004 05:58 PM
Med Students begin to put lifestyle first azskeptic Main Foreign Medical Schools Forum 4 01-30-2004 04:27 PM
Spartan's Rebuttle to Article----Please read previous post, currentstudent Spartan Medical School 13 01-18-2004 11:11 AM
Network54 Main FOrum Page 12 Hanson Network54 Archives 0 02-15-2003 06:48 PM


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 10:52 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.2
Copyright ©2000 - 2008, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.2.0 ©2008, Crawlability, Inc.
Copyright © 2003-2008 ValueMD, LLC. All rights reserved.
Home About Privacy Contact us Disclaimer Site Map Advertise

Site Meter

International Foreign and Caribbean medical schools,
ValueMD provides information on medical education from premed to residency