Thread: Lawsuit Against SCIMD On May 14, 2010

Does anyone know about the court date in New Jersey against SCIMD on May 14, 2010 related to the stolen money from the students?

A few things...

Most if not all legal action was directed towards SCCM and not SCIMD (different entities). From my understanding there were a few lawsuits that tried to pull SCIMD and some staff members in but were dismissed, some even made it far enough to have subpoenas ... also the vast majority of legal action trying to get money back were dropped due to lack of funding on the students side.

Also your question asks about a court date and then you provide a date. Were you trying to ask what the court action on that date is going to be about? Are you part of the trial? I'm assuming if you have such a specific date then you already have more information than i currently do.

Without more details about which specific proceeding you are talking to i can't even contact the person involved, to get you more details if any are available.

Even on the schools internal forum there has been no discussion about any legal action for well over a year.

If you want to post or PM more details I can try and find out more info for you, otherwise I'm going to assume this was trolling.

Originally Posted by SCIMD Official

...otherwise I'm going to assume this was trolling.

That's probably a safe bet.

Some people had mentioned a lawsuit against SCIMD at Superior Court of New Jersey on May 14, 2010.

Originally Posted by SCIMD Official

A few things...

Most if not all legal action was directed towards SCCM and not SCIMD (different entities). From my understanding there were a few lawsuits that tried to pull SCIMD and some staff members in but were dismissed, some even made it far enough to have subpoenas ... also the vast majority of legal action trying to get money back were dropped due to lack of funding on the students side.

Originally Posted by london21

Some people had mentioned a lawsuit against SCIMD at Superior Court of New Jersey on May 14, 2010.

I am not aware of any action at this time but that doesn't mean that there isn't ongoing action.. it just means that I'm not part of it.

If you have a docket number or any more information or even an actual question about the possible proceedings I can try to help

you can try to search here for more information NJ Courts Online

I searched for SCIMD, "iba mar", "diop", "Saint Christopher", and even the entire date in question within the superior court proceeding schedule and did not find anything.

If you do find more information or have more information that may help former students please do share as it would benefit past students.

I will also ask the former students i know of who had legal action pending if there is any new news.

I also did a search and came up with nothing related to SCIMD in the NJ Superior Court docket.

I was told nearly 1 million dollars was stolen from the students ( mostly in student loan monies). This case is still open against SCIMD in New Jersey, on May 14, 2010. It must be a highly confidential case since it is not published on the New Jersey Court website.

Originally Posted by SCIMD Official

I am not aware of any action at this time but that doesn't mean that there isn't ongoing action.. .

Originally Posted by london21

I was told nearly 1 million dollars was stolen from the students ( mostly in student loan monies). This case is still open against SCIMD in New Jersey, on May 14, 2010. It must be a highly confidential case since it is not published on the New Jersey Court website.

Ah, now i see what you're talking about... This is such old news (btw are you sure you don't have your years mixed up because the last I had heard about this was 2008)

That case was not against SCIMD, that was a case again SCCM and SCCM ltd, as well as the previous administration of SCCM and the other subsidiary companies they started. That lawsuit was started by a group of students to try and recover money for the students.

Sooooo.... unless this is a new case that I'm not aware of here is the story again.... From what i was told that lawsuit ran out of steam (aka money) so just fizzled out. I spoke with the student incharge probably 12months ago (maybe more) and it was in the process of being completely dropped.

Just as an FYI, with this type of case there is no such thing as "highly confidential" everything has to be public information and made available either before, during or after the trial (little thing called the freedom of information act - all you have to do is ask for the paper work from the court). If you use the search button and search the old forum for SCCM on here you will see all the old court documents posted or linked to from there. There have been many many threads started on that.

If you are a former student who was involved in that case and want to try and get in touch with the person in charge of that case PM me your info and I will pass it along.

Originally Posted by SCIMD Official

...Just as an FYI, with this type of case there is no such thing as "highly confidential" everything has to be public information and made available either before, during or after the trial...

SCIMD Official is completely correct. Having a minor legal background I can say with absolute certainty that the only cases, state or federal, about which one cannot obtain any information are ones that involve current matters of national security where revealing information would risk essential assets.

I have absolutely no doubt that SCIMD does not fall into this category.

As far as my personal feelings with regard to this matter, I think what JF and JP did to those students was beyond disgusting. They got the students hopes up that there was some reasonable chance of recovering stolen monies, finagled and cajoled them into donating funds they couldn't afford to give away in order to finance this wild goose chase, and produced absolutely nothing of value in any sense of the word. They essentially victimized these students, in a financial and emotional sense, a second time. They should feel fortunate that the ex-students of SCCM didn't descend on them like legion and hang them both from the nearest suitable trees.

In the end JF & JP were no different than the pilfering, repugnant duo of PL & FS, possibly worse because they prayed on truly desperate people that were willing to cling to any shred of hope no matter how small that they could avoid utter financial ruin. I hope someone will make JF & JP accountable for their central roles in this epic boondoggle, hold their feet to the white hot coals so they know what it felt like for those whose hopes and meager residual assets they squandered with reckless abandon in the depraved pursuit of a personal financial windfall if they succeeded in their legal efforts.

Roboman.. thats a little harsh...

JP was trying to genuinely help students, and i actually did donate money to try and help as well. His lawsuit just ran out of money and at the time more was needed everyone was tapped out. I saw saw all the legal communication between all lawyers in this case and the students had a very decent shot of winning just would have dragged on for too long and in the end any money made would have gone back to the lawyers. This lawsuit actually made it to the point where students filled out and filed specific requests for money with receipts and sent directly to the law firm ( I actually still have the copies of the forms with confirmation receipt). For me... the money i would have been able to even stretch the truth to claim back would have cost the same as the legal fee's so not worth it in the end for me.

JF was just the second one to try and he saw a chance to make $$$, I personally don't know of anyone who actually donated to his lawsuit because he already was fairly wealthy and fairly well connected legally... his mistake was not that he ran out of money, he just was trying to get money in the wrong country.