ive been just reading the last month without posting i got some q's

1) why would guy kings college let SC play with the cadavers if SC is not legit? isnt guy king college "ivy league"?

2) where does kigezi do anatomy lab?

3) when did SC School of Med turn into SC College of Med? is this why WHO say SCCM opened in 2000? not earlier like BTS says?

4) why are there claims that people are doing ivy league rotation? BTS is going to GA? isnt this proof that there are more than 3 sites?

5) why is this Dean guy leaving significant? was there really personal issues or was he forced to quit?

6) whats the status on the new building(s)?

7) can SC students transfer their credits? to Ross? to any other school?

8 ) why did truthbetold and those other SC students delete their posts a month or 2 ago?

ill put up more later--thanks

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my main concern now is somethin i recieved in a PM stating how the school may fold. i do not have permission to post so i will not, but there is a bunch of pooh pooh i would like to see cleared up. i do not see why the school would lie and put itself in a position for MAJOR legal battles. someone,....anyone.....

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Cindy
Rutgers University-Newark College of Arts and Sciences- Alumni

Let me ask you one question:

Why would people with families come to SC and then ardently defend it if they had ONE, just ONE inkling that something was wrong financially?

Furthermore, I have overheard people saying and I quote, "I don't think the school lasts for 3 more years". I asked them, based on what? They had no answer. They just like throwing crap out there and then seeing who buys into it. They have no proof, no inside scoop, no nothing. They just throw out a lie dressed as an opinion, and then think they get away with it. Well, this one instance scared someone half to death who happens to be a friend of mine. It was irresponsible and wrong. Unless you have documentation that something is up, and trust me, enough students here have inside contacts, that they would be gone in a heartbeat if they knew something was bad.

The worst thing about going FMG is that you have people like Dr. L from MUA disguising himself as an applicant or "consumer advocate" when in fact he is ripped that SC is taking students away from him. Fact. We have plenty of MUA transfers here. I would be ticked too if people left my business after 3 months and went elsewhere. It hurts my Benz payment.

The second worst thing is that the rumor mill gets based on lies from the get go and no one has the stones to stand up and say SHUT UP. People thrive on bad info, like a soap opera. You'll encounter that at every non-US school. Ross has it, SGU has it, and unfortunately, so do we. So you learn to either deal, or you get frustrated enough to give up and work for Walmart paying off medical school loans.

Good Luck Mia.

I can answer a few of these:

5.) The reason that Dr. M leaving is so significant is that he is a brilliant professor and a good dean. People seem to be most worried about where they are going to find someone with the same level of expertise to teach anatomy. It was NOT a personal issue, he was FORCED to leave, this was told to me by a respected faculty member here at the college.

6.) There is only one new building, and it is only for the faculty/admin staff. There is no new student building at all in any shape or form. They are supposed to be working on the building we are currently in, but this has yet to start.

7.) Currently, the only schools that accept St. Chris credit are St. Matthews and MUA (MUA is a deal only for current 1st semester students. Once the next semester starts here this deal is void)

8.) It was explained to me that some of the students who posted here deleted their posts because they were threatened with disciplinary action that could have irreparably damaged their ability to become physicians in the future.

Using GKT labs does not indicate legitimacy, it doesn't really indicate anything

Kigezi does not do anatomy lab until the first summer of med school, then they do a summer course in certain us cities. Students have had some problems with this though.

It did use to be school of medicine before ***** took over. I have found out that it did not go bankrupt though. The problem was that they were unable to obtain a charter.

Like I said, I know people in every city i mentioned. Unless my friends are in imaginary hospitals, then the clinicals are real.

Actually this proff sucked!! Everyone in my class hated him as a lecturer. He is a great guy, and very knowledgable one, but his lecturing capability SUCKED. In fact, the whole misnomer that he is teh favorite proff is dead wrong. At white coat, the AMSA golden apple award was given to the student bodies favorite proff by popular vote. The winner was most definately NOT him. He also did NOTHING as a dean. Everything was laid on the associate deans shoulders. He is also lazy as hell. He threatened to quit earlier this term because the admin and students wanted to allow the students to review thier exam afterwards so they could see their mistakes. Dr. M refused and threw a tantrum because he didn't want to write more questions. Out for the students best interest? I don't think so.

All the paperwork is officially done. We have the council permission for the work upstairs and accross the street. Infiniteuni is wrong that no student things will be done next door. The library will be over there. I saw someone in yesterday who was starting to take measurements upstairs.

Schools who do have cali approval do not accept credits from schools that do not have cali's approval and St. George accepts NO transfers (not from AUC or ross either). If you have done ANY part of your medical education in a non-cali approved school, you are not licensable in cali. However, places like SMU, MUA, etc all take SC credits. If infiniteuni believes for one sec that they will not take our students credit after this term, he is more gullible that I thought. But, before he goes, he should talk to all the MUA nevis and belize transfers we have (>40 this year alone) and see what THEY think. Come into 5th and talk to people who have been to both schools and finished the basic sciences... they can compare admins and quality of education.

they were all the same student and he has serious psycological problems. I have had many many people come to me and ask what is wrong with this guy. I know that you don't know him personally to understand this, but I sincerely hope he doesn't enter clinical medicine.

I have read that email... it is funny as hell. I have never seen such a load of garbage in my life. Feel free to call me and we can discuss the letter point by point (since u don't want to post it). I have already gotten a call from one prospective that I did this with.

Call 011 44 797 439 7330

I will be on this number until saturday morning when i leave England for good (to start clins).

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BTS4202
St. Christopher's COM
4th Year
http://www.mdparadise.com

"If there really is a God, He has a lot of explaining to do"
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Bts4202 is quite wrong...

I know for a fact that it was 2 different people, as I happen to know both of them...

How do you know these people have "serious psycological problems"? Are you one of these people, a close personal friend of one of these individuals who they confided in, or is this pure conjecture on your part? What constitutes a "serious psycological problems" anyway? Furthermore, why would anyone ask you about one of these people unless you are one of them, or a close personal friend of one of them?

It makes just a little more sense to ask the person themselves, but of course what would be the fun in that? Rumor, gossip, conjecture, and hearsay are always more fun than the truth.

Regarding the statement that you hope these people don't enter clinical medicine... Trust me, I know more than a few people here that feel that same way about you...

Bts4202 is also wrong about the fact that MUA will take SC credits after this semester. Anyone that doesn't believe this is true, please call MUA and talk to Dr. Necic and he will tell you that they won't accept any SC transfers after this semester. This has been told to several students from the 1st semester that have called and inquired about the ability to transfer their credits to MUA.

Seem quite defensive, that might be because they were both YOU!!

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BTS4202
St. Christopher's COM
4th Year
http://www.mdparadise.com

"If there really is a God, He has a lot of explaining to do"
- Dennis Leary

Let me add to the response to some continued lies by BTS. Obviously you don't like the dean that is leaving, especially since he doesn't like you. I'm sure you'll make some new friends down at Emory. Again, back to the facts. The anatomy professor did not have personal problems, he was SUSPENDED. He spoke out about some rather disturbing photos of a member of admin/faculty and he got canned because of it. And the cowardly manner by which he was suspended says a lot about certain members of the admin/faculty. I don't have an agenda. Nor do I like to throw my opinions out in the public so they sway prospective students. St. Chris has a lot of positives. But let's not lie about the negatives. And btw, the school DID go bankrupt a few years back. St. Christophers School of Medicine couldn't cut it. Hence, we're overaccepting students into our classes so that we can make par on our dues. Whatever happened to low student:teacher ratio? I dunno about you all, but I was lied to on the phone when I was told we would have no more than 50 students per class. You think it's gonna get smaller than what it is? And to add, the upstairs portion of the school is like a dusty attic that hasn't been touched in years. How can you tell students to sit there and wait till next semesters first week and it will be done. That sounds like shady landlord promising hot water by the end of the week. Point is, we all payed $6,000. From that, we may not deserve a "state of the art building" or "excellent lab facilities" .. but what we DO deserve is the TRUTH. St Chris does have a lot of potential. As long as you all stick to the truth and don't use phrases that can legally bend in your favor, then I think you'll avoid new students coming in with the wrong impression of the school.

is a great guy. And the whole point of the students being disappointed is because he had the integrity of a "TRUE LEADER", as does Dr. C. And it's nice to know you have those people around when you are unsure about the school, and thus the investment. I told myself back at the beginning of the semester that though this might not be the best school, (not by any means) it must be okay in some strange kinda way if someone like Dr. M., or Dr. C, was willing to associate themselves with it. Now that Dr. M. is gone, and because he was FORCED OUT, I am just reminded of the sad state of affairs I almost convinced myself I was not in.

By the way Bts, I am not InfiniteUni. 8)


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