Thread: Busted..St Chris.....

Schools Not Recognized by the State Board of Medicine:

After review of the curriculums, the curriculum of the following schools does not meet the requirements of the Rules and Regulations. Medical education from these schools will not be accepted for licensure.

Grace School of Medicine
Grace University
Cades Bay, Nevis (offices in Boca Raton, FL)

St. Christopher's College of Medicine
Dakar, Senegal (offices in Naples, FL)

University Health Sciences Antigua
St. John's Antigua, West Indies

once again, wow....check this site out.... www.altoonafp.org/img.htm

it was a dispute over clinicals and the length of time spent in a FP clinical. I spoke at length with admin and that particular hospital and they were reviewing new documentation as of this past summer.

How is MUA going? Curious as to how it must be going since you seem to have an aweful lot of time on your hands participating on a web board. Enrollment must be down.

IknowitALl, thanks for the link. Interesting that Altoona says that it is the state board that does not recognize St. Chris.


(I guess you are going to receive more nasty pm's for posting this, eh?)

well, if PA won't allow them, apparently Idaho won't either


052. LICENSURE BY WRITTEN EXAMINATION FOR GRADUATES OF MEDICAL
SCHOOLS LOCATED OUTSIDE OF THE UNITED STATES AND CANADA.

01. Foreign Graduate. In addition to meeting the
requirements of Section 051, graduates of medical schools located
outside of the United States and Canada must submit to the Board:
(3-19-99)

a. An original certificate from the Educational Commission
for Foreign Medical School Graduates or must submit documentation that
the applicant has passed the examination either administered or
recognized by the Educational Commission for Foreign Medical School
Graduates; and IDAPA 22.01.01. (7-1-93)

b. Evidence directly from the foreign medical school which
establishes to the satisfaction of the Board that the foreign medical
school meets the standards for medical educational facilities set forth
in Subsection 052.02; and (3-19-99)

c. An Affidavit from the foreign medical school that to its
knowledge no state of the United States has refused to license its
graduates on the grounds that the school fails to meet reasonable
standards for medical education facilities. (7-1-93)

d. A complete transcript from the medical school showing
the courses taken and grades received including an English translation
of the documents provided. (5-3-03)

02. Requirements. A foreign medical school must meet and
comply with the following requirements: (7-1-93)

a. The degree issued must be comparable to the degrees
issued by medical schools located within the United States or Canada.
(7-1-93)

b. If the foreign medical school issued its first M.D.
degrees after 1975, the school must provide a site visit or documented
evidence of equivalent evaluation efforts acceptable to the Board is
required. (3-30-01)

c. If the foreign medical school issued valid degrees prior
to 1975, the Board, in its discretion may require a site visit.
(3-30-01)

d. A site visit of the school, when required, must be
financed by the school. The visiting team shall consist of at least one
(1) member of the Board; one (1) consultant, a clinical medical
educator
acceptable to the Board; one (1) consultant, a basic science educator
acceptable to the Board; such administrative support personnel as
deemed
necessary. The school will be required to pay consultant fees and
expenses. (7-1-93)

e. The Board may waive the site visit requirement if:
(7-1-93)

i. Information assembled by a similarly or comparably
constituted site visit team is available from another state licensing
board; or (7-1-93)

ii. In the case of review for renewal of approval. (7-1-93)

f. All schools approved by the Board will be subject to
review of approval as deemed necessary by the Board, taking into
consideration need and feasibility. (7-1-93)

g. The Board will review all available information in
considering approval, including investigative reports by other states,
national and international agencies, and may consider the comparative
performance of graduates with those of other schools on standard
examination. (7-1-93)

I am hopeful that the Moderators can have enough class to allow discussion by their students. If they want to threaten people, be sure it is within the guidelines of ValueMd...perhaps you could post the standards that you as moderators are trying to uphold?

azsceptic wrote:

if PA won't allow them, apparently Idaho won't either

I've spoken in person with people from the Idaho board, and it's all the usual requirements. USMLE, ECFMF etc....of course any State can reserve the right to refuse any applicant, but I was told that if the above requirements were met, that SCCM, should not have any problems. Just reading the regulations is sometimes not sufficient. It's best to call the State and check. In fact the official SC website even recommends doing just that in it's section regarding licensure.

jdmd

Originally Posted by IknowitALl

Schools Not Recognized by the State Board of Medicine:

After review of the curriculums, the curriculum of the following schools does not meet the requirements of the Rules and Regulations. Medical education from these schools will not be accepted for licensure.

Grace School of Medicine
Grace University
Cades Bay, Nevis (offices in Boca Raton, FL)

St. Christopher's College of Medicine
Dakar, Senegal (offices in Naples, FL)

University Health Sciences Antigua
St. John's Antigua, West Indies

once again, wow....check this site out.... www.altoonafp.org/img.htm

Hah, hello MATE Try again. This info that you posted up is completely outdated, call Penn yourself and ask. To begin with Grace, lost their charter in 1998 or so, so they are no longer opperating, so imagen how old and outdated it is. Call Penn yourself and see what they tell you. If your gonna go out of your way to put up outdated info, don't even bother. Put up real up-to-date info. You got something to say, let me know?

Well, Altoona is the one that said St. Chris is not recognized by the State Board.

If you are right, then a letter to Altoona to correct their website is in order if their info about St. Chris is not true. We'll just have to wait and see, yes?

Maybe this is one time that St. Chris can draw on its fund available as stated on Nov 22nd. St. Chris would not want its reputation to suffer now, right?

Originally Posted by bts4202

so are you saying SC will help fight legal battles for its students when needed?

I have been informed that SC has a lot of money set aside for just that purpose. A school that can not get you licensed is useless. SC will fight to make sure you can be licensed almost anywhere you want to be (obviously except impossible ones like Cali, NM, and Kansas). That is the only way the other big schools made it. That is the way that UAG paved the road for all IMG's.

Originally Posted by dt

Well, Altoona is the one that said St. Chris is not recognized by the State Board.

If you are right, then a letter to Altoona to correct their website is in order if their info about St. Chris is not true. We'll just have to wait and see, yes?

Maybe this is one time that St. Chris can draw on its fund available as stated on Nov 22nd. St. Chris would not want its reputation to suffer now, right?

Originally Posted by bts4202

so are you saying SC will help fight legal battles for its students when needed?

I have been informed that SC has a lot of money set aside for just that purpose. A school that can not get you licensed is useless. SC will fight to make sure you can be licensed almost anywhere you want to be (obviously except impossible ones like Cali, NM, and Kansas). That is the only way the other big schools made it. That is the way that UAG paved the road for all IMG's.

Dt, that already is being taken care of as we speak. Someone is on the phone with the people at PENN and will let them know about this outdated information. Trust me, it will be up-dated soon.

"c. An Affidavit from the foreign medical school that to its
knowledge no state of the United States has refused to license its
graduates on the grounds that the school fails to meet reasonable
standards for medical education facilities. (7-1-93)"

"b. If the foreign medical school issued its first M.D.
degrees after 1975, the school must provide a site visit or documented
evidence of equivalent evaluation efforts acceptable to the Board is
required. (3-30-01)"

so does this mean that since california will refuse to grant you a license then idaho will not either? what about any other states no one knows about?dr durts was right you never know until someone tries. this is exactly the type of ** why i didn't go to a small new school and would avoid it if possible. best of luck to you all now i better get back to studying so i don't end up transferring to a small new school....hehe