Hello,

So I am going to attend St Chris this January. I have been reading so many posts on various topics about St Chris. Now please answer my questions honestly and please do not start going off topic. I want to know thats really going on with St Chris so that everyone including myself are informed.

What's really going on with the investigation, but firstly what is the whole investigation all about? I have read a lot of posts regarding this topic but none really said the true reason. I have read that the investigation is due to some financial fraud or something. I don't know if that is true or not. so, whats going on? Is US involved also in this investigation along with UK? Is this going to hurt me and others attending later on?

What's going on with Cleveland clinical? I thought the school is using a Cleveland clinic for their fifth semester students. Why am I reading posts that say that they don't have a place to conduct classes? Whats up with this whole new topic/rumor?

Please, please answer these questions for me with all honesty. Also please I do not want anybody start bashing the school or my decision of choosing this school. Thanks. I hope to hear from someone soon.

Noodle

The investigation is ongoing. the results COULD affect your ability to practice in the US. They may not. My recommendation would be to defer until this issue is sorted out. Otherwise, you may waste a lot of time/money. Should SC come through this, it will further support it as a good choice for med education.

Nobody know what is going on, really. There is a lot of conjecture on both sides of the arguement. Until these issues are sorted out, you concerns about clinicals are moot. G

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Dear Dr. Durst:

You wrote the following:

"The investigation is ongoing."

"Nobody know(s) what is going on."

"The results COULD affect your ability to practice in the US."

George, give me a break. Explain the logic of what you wrote. How in the world does an investigation with the GMC, translate to affecting one's ability to practice in the US, if "no one knows whats going on?"

Give us a break buddy. Let's stick to what we know; there is an investigation by the GMC, not the ECFMG.

As for the other, be a great moderator, and not conjuncture. It is self-serving?

Isn't that really fair?

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I clearly said COULD. You need to re-examine your position, my friend. If your child were going to SC in the midst of an investigation, would you still encourage it?? The repercussions of having the GMC finding SC fraudulent are far reaching. It would certainly affect the status of SC with many, if not most states in the US. I gave the best advice, as I see it. Wait until the investigation is over. If you see it as bashing, I'm sorry. That isn't how I see it. G

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Here's what I posted on another thread (slightly edited).

Best case scenario: The GMC resolves the investigation in SCs favor in a relatively short amount of time (Senegal admits to a bureaucratic screw-up) and the school continues to grow. May even gain some additional state recognition, but the most difficult (e.g. California) and other continue to elude them due to the charter issue. This puts them at a competitive disadvantage with the well established Carib. schools, especially when licensure and federal loans are considered IF the grandfather clause survives.

[Slightly off topic, should the grandfather clause be eliminated, it may prove to be a curse to weak schools in the Carib. and SC, as the Big 3 in order to survive, will be forced to fight for any students that can afford to pay for off-shore education. That, IMO, will lead to a bloodbath. Schools with a strong financial position and foundation will survive, while others will go out of business.]

Alternative best case scenario: (IMO, much less likely, especially given current circumstances. I would not bet on this possibility) As above, plus the GMC gains power to regulate squatter schools AND gives SC a clean bill of health within a couple years (or SC receives a British charter). Charter issues become less important and SC continues to grow.

Middle of the road scenario: The gears of bureaucracy grind on slowly. The cloud of suspicion remains. Eventually, after many months the GMC clears SC. However, this causes problems with student recruitment and SCs ability to grow is significantly impeded.

Worst case scenario: The GMC does not lift its suspension or disallows the 2000-2003 school work and diplomas. The ECFMG may or may not follow. In short, a death or a near death blow to the school's future.

Again, I hope that for SCs students the matter is resolved in their favor. However, potential students need to understand the clear and present risks of enrolling into SC, while this cloud of suspicion hangs over the school.

Good advice he is right.

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"I want to know thats really going on with St Chris so that everyone including myself are informed."

investigation is ongoing, classes are still being held don't think much has changed for students

"What's really going on with the investigation, but firstly what is the whole investigation all about? I have read a lot of posts regarding this topic but none really said the true reason. I have read that the investigation is due to some financial fraud or something. I don't know if that is true or not."

i don't think anyone knows how it started i don't think i heard of any financial fraud. the question has revolved around the charter; given the hx of the school it is a bit confusing. 1998 there was a SC school of medicine without a charter that closed. 2000 it supposedly reopened as SC college of medicine with charter from senegal, africa. the investigation supposedly centers as to the validity of a charter from 2000-2003 and education officials in senegal not knowing anything about the school regardless of the year. when the reporter went to the school admin showed a photocopy of a letter from senegal but refused to make a copy for them adding to the issues.

to add more SC luton is supposed to be a satellite of a bigger university in senegal but the parent university opened after the satelluite campus?

apparently the ambassador and SC have provided all documentation and all should be well so this may be all a headache that could have been avoided.


"whats going on? Is US involved also in this investigation along with UK? Is this going to hurt me and others attending later on?"

don't think the US is involved. if it turns out negatively it COULD affect people in the US because many states will not issue a license if you have been banned from some other state, i don't know if this carries to another country?.

"What's going on with Cleveland clinical? I thought the school is using a Cleveland clinic for their fifth semester students. Why am I reading posts that say that they don't have a place to conduct classes? Whats up with this whole new topic/rumor? "

they aren't allowed to discuss it unless its in the private SC forum along with the clinical sites.

give it time, if the investigation turns in SC favor it would be a great option aside from the established foreign schools for students but until then why risk it?

Please, please answer these questions for me with all honesty. Also please I do not want anybody start bashing the school or my decision of choosing this school. Thanks. I hope to hear from someone soon

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Nicely stated, rrod.

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