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Old 11-05-2005, 10:09 AM
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800 students?????????????????????????????????
Yes since I was in this school last semester, 3-400 in Luton and 400+ in the USA, 5th semester and clinicals.

It's not that hard! 4 semesters here in Luton + Premed another 4 Semesters 8 semesters with 50 students a piece is 400, But 1st semester had over 100 alone this last semester. (I transfered to another school for JAN 06 not because of any of this though)

By the way numbers have been posted over and over before I know you are new but St. Chris does have 3 buildings with 3 floors each and is quite large now.
It's not a half baked post/ claim There are Pics here on the album of the main building and St. Nicholos house.
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Old 11-05-2005, 10:20 AM
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actually this document from the state of oregon mentions st. chris and if you look it up in the charter file in the uK it says 1998

http://www.doj.state.or.us/releases/rel072500.htm

Has anyone seen the actual charter?
AZ I tried to stay away from this posting but you know we have been down this road, It was not St. Christopher's College of Medicine then
It was St. Christopher's School of Medicine. We need to be in the present which starts in 2000 with the current entity. The name change is important as is the WHO listing in 2000. The State of Oregon does not recognize WHO at all nor any other Authority but themselves. They do not have anything in place to visit or review medical schools. I have Emails saved from them that state this from the director.

I do not reconize Oregon as an IMG friendly state.
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I apologize for my tardiness, but I was out of the state on a residency interview when all this went down (which went very well BTW).

The GMC/BBC thing is very scary and i am quite sure that some people at the school are spreading all kinds of craziness from Dr. L has fled to morrocco to the WHO has retracted our listing, etc. This kind of thing actually happens quite a bit in offshore schools. At St chris, we had this exact same situation with the GMC a couple years ago. The result? Well, the GMC visited st chris a couple times, checked out the campus, talked to a bunch of students, looked over docuements presented by the admin and in the end.. they reinstated our registration status. This time is not much different. I have actually seen the list of questions they feel need to answered by st chris and they are all very doable. They seem designed to weed out the bad actors in the UK (understandably) and since we are genuine, we will end up being fine IMHO.

To Prospective students: This is understandably scary. I have an interview in a couple weeks at a residency program whose accreditation from the ACGME is on probation and I am being very cautious. I want to see A) that they have made significant steps to ensure they will be taken off probation and B)that things are moving forward. I suggest a similar approach towards st chris in this situation. If the whole prospect of having the GMC and BBC on our backs for a little bit really petrifies you, please attend another school. I would hate for you to come to st chris and always be scared and miserable. If you have visited st chris and know the quality of the school and feel confident that st chris has the proper things in place to stand up under scrutiny, then we welcome you all to the st chris family.

To Current students: Please remain calm and read what i wrote to prospectives. The same thing applies to you. If you are too scared and need to transfer, no one will blame you. However, like i wrote previously, i have seen the questions posed to st chris and we should be able to answer them with proof very easily.

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actually this document from the state of oregon mentions st. chris and if you look it up in the charter file in the uK it says 1998

http://www.doj.state.or.us/releases/rel072500.htm

Has anyone seen the actual charter?
Okay trying to stay away but this is from the link you provided AZ:

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Name & Registered Office:
ST. CHRISTOPHER'S COLLEGE OF MEDICINE LIMITED
YORK HOUSE
17-19 PARK STREET WEST
LUTON
BEDFORDSHIRE LU1 3BG
Company No. 04066576

Status: Active
Date of Incorporation: 06/09/2000

Country of Origin: United Kingdom
Company Type: Private Limited Company
Nature of Business (SIC(03)):
8030 - Higher education
Accounting Reference Date: 30/09
Last Accounts Made Up To: 30/09/2004 (TOTAL EXEMPTION SMALL)
Next Accounts Due: 30/07/2006
Last Return Made Up To: 06/09/2005
Next Return Due: 04/10/2006
Last Members List: 06/09/2005
Previous Names:No previous name information has been recorded over the last 20 years.Branch Details There are no branches associated with this company.Oversea Company Info There are no Oversea Details associated with this company.
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This the current school of this forum since 2000 and what we should be disscussing!
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the old school doesn;t apply here and that oregon article was debunked a whiole ago.

what about the oversea company info? they say there is none..should the university connection show up or is it just if it was a business back in senegal?
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the old school doesn;t apply here and that oregon article was debunked a whiole ago.

what about the oversea company info? they say there is none..should the university connection show up or is it just if it was a business back in senegal?
It just says no info was provided.. not that there is no overseas connections. We also know that there is a US connection (in addition to senegal) since there is obviously a NJ office. However, just because no info was given on it online does not mean the NJ office does not exist right?
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the old school doesn;t apply here and that oregon article was debunked a whiole ago.

what about the oversea company info? they say there is none..should the university connection show up or is it just if it was a business back in senegal?
I do not believe the Oregon attorney generals article was debunked. If you do the research you'll find that there was a corporation in 1998-2000 that was allegedly a Luton/Dakr thing. Then a new corporation was founded in 2000. Who was the original owners? who knows but the new corporation has the same business plan, luton/dakar.

Look at the various claims of the websites since it was first on the internet and see what you think.
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I do not believe the Oregon attorney generals article was debunked. If you do the research you'll find that there was a corporation in 1998-2000 that was allegedly a Luton/Dakr thing. Then a new corporation was founded in 2000. Who was the original owners? who knows but the new corporation has the same business plan, luton/dakar.

Look at the various claims of the websites since it was first on the internet and see what you think.
It has been debunked multiple times. The st chris they were talking about is the current st chris, they just couldn;t find any info on our charter. Once that info was provided to them, they were happy. Plus, we never had any agreement with that other school. They had lied to try to get out of trouble (nice of them to try and take us down with them huh?)
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Speaking of debunked, I don't think he ever debunked that article that quoted AZSkeptic -----edited for violation of tos

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