well, nobody will know until the GMC come out with an official ruling. if you are considering st chris, it would prob be smart to look elsewhere for now, or at the very least defer admission until this stuff is resolved.

i think you need to be very careful. what the school has going for it is simply its Luton location. that is fine and dandy, but it seems like a lot to risk simply to live in england. and, it is not a very nice city at that. in my view, you should really consider the end result. the st chris degree is now, and likely always will be less valuable than the more established schools. by this i mean you will be restricted as to where you can practice. additionally, i don't think that schools like this will be allowed to stick around england forever. st chris may do well there, but if some other schools open up, and perform poorly and rip people off, the UK will likely move to protect its citizens by closing the door to schools like this. so, st chris is certainly vulnerable to the behavior of its competitors in this regard.

i think what i am saying is that even IF st chris does make it through this, there are a host of other issues that have been around a while, that will not be resolved by this. and, there are plenty of schools out there without these issues. save yourself a headache. live on an island for 2 years if that is what it takes.

best of luck

The thing to remember is, the WHO does NOT 'regulate' schools. They merely publish a list of schools which are regulated by individual national governments.

Belize has already pulled the plug on schools it was 'hosting' which attracted negative press. I'm interested to see if the Senegalese government really starts looking into St. Chris following this pressure from the GMC. Will St. Chris lose its WHO listing? That's surely worse than losing clinicals in the UK ... after all, most of the students are from the USA, so they'll do their clinicals in the USA too, right?

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Indeed a wise business decision is to be your own risk management officer: 1. what is the current reality? (investigation) 2. what do I have at risk? (licensing ability and investment in the 6 figures) 3. What are my alternatives?

This is much more complex than a popularity contest. It is your future,your investment, and possibly your reputation at stake.

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Well, you can always consider the alternative...the Senegalese government seems to be 100% behind the school, which should resolve all issues with the UK. Whether that resolves all issues with the US remains to be seen and warrants individual inquiry with your state licensing board.


Of course, the smartest move would be to wait until an official pronouncement is made through the GMC. Given the obviously biased information presented in this forum, it may or may not be a boon to SC to have this inquiry. If it results in complete acceptance of the students within the NHS, then alls well; however, if issues remain, then the concern of the ramifications on US licensure remains. Until this is clarified, if you MUST proceed in the next couple of months, sage advice is to look to an alternative school. Otherwise, ignore all of these people behind the curtain and let the process continue.

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I'm not making my point according to 'biased information on this board'. I'm making my judgement on that quote from the Senegalese government official in the BBC report. From what I heard, It didn't seem the Senegalese government is entirely behind SC ... and that was straight from the horses mouth as it were, not a third party. Senegal may not want to appear weak in its administration now their education system has been brought to the attention of well-respected foreign medical governing bodies. Senegal may well distance itself from SC is what I'm wondering. That means no WHO listing the next time the WHO publishes its list, as Senegal would be less likely to submit SC to the WHO as a recognised school.

Of course, SC could change its name to the Islamic name of the school it is affiliated to in Senegal .... mmm .... may prove more tricky to sell THAT to American students!

What bothers me is the obvious conflicting perspective arising out of this. On the one hand, the director of higher education denies SC's claim, but then the Senegalese government representatives step in and assert that SC's claims are valid. One of these is in error. A lot of people are waiting the GMC decision. I hope everything works out well. If it doesn't, I hope criminal prosecutions result.

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"What bothers me is the obvious conflicting perspective arising out of this. On the one hand, the director of higher education denies SC's claim, but then the Senegalese government representatives step in and assert that SC's claims are valid. One of these is in error. A lot of people are waiting the GMC decision. I hope everything works out well. If it doesn't, I hope criminal prosecutions result."


the way things work in the third world, he probably didn't get the right paperwork...and by paperwork of course i mean paid, bribed, greased, had monetary memory enhancements etc.

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Who would you like to see prosecuted?

Who are the other government representatives you're referring to? From what department are they from? Are there names available? Do they even work in Senegal, or are you referring to staff from the Senegalese High Commission in London?

I'm not asking these questions to have a dig at you, by the way ... I'm asking because I don't know.

If these other officials include the Ambassador and his staff I can't see how they would have much of a clue ... if they did attend the SC campus, and Ambassador will accept most invites, especially if a company is doing business in his/her home country. Whilst they might 'inspect' premises (ie 'take a tour and shake hands') it doesn't mean they will INSPECT premises (ie check all your paperwork and references are legal).

Can anyone shed any light on who these other officals are?