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Old 11-04-2005, 10:13 AM
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Before more of you succumb to AzSkeptics half-truths please note that he posted this same link from a VMD post done in 2003. The verbiage on the GMC site has not changed in over 2 years, so this is not a new development. But AzSkeptic is so biased that he will bend over backward to slant things against the school. If you want to know the truth, contact the GMC, as I have and also read what SC reports. In case you want the "rest of the story" it's this: Licensure in the United Kingdom
Graduates of St. Christopher’s College of Medicine are eligible for limited registration with the
General Medical Council. Students are eligible to sit for the PLAB and MRCP exams. After several years of supervised work, graduates can qualify for full registration pending the results of their performance.

Now, you can buy into AzSkeptics efforts to bah the school or you can read between the lines of the promo for this radio program in which it is acknowledged that SC students are rotating through NHS hospitals and there is a graduate surgeon. How could students rotate through NHS hospitals, side by side with the students from the established UK medical schools? How could there be a surgeon who graduated from SC practicing in the UK? Could it be that there is, how the UK puts it, "Limited Registration" for a few years while they are under supervision before Full Registration?

An ethical person would have told you all of this. Please note that AzSkeptic did not. Not only did he not tell the whole story, he bent over backward to suggest that there was a recent "major negative" against the school. You would expect this kind of behavior from somebody trying to sell you a used trailer. It is inexplicable how VMD could let this individual continue as the moderator of the licensing forum. Any good this individual has ever done is outweighed by this kind of behavior.
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Old 11-04-2005, 10:20 AM
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Did you read the blurb about SC on the GMC website?:

We are currently investigating this institution's affiliation to the St Christopher ‘s College of Medicine in Senegal. Until our investigations are complete we have suspended our acceptance of medical degrees awarded by this institution and/or any of it's affiliations. Please contact us for advice if you are currently studying or applying to study at this institution.

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Old 11-04-2005, 10:21 AM
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Before more of you succumb to AzSkeptics half-truths please note that he posted this same link from a VMD post done in 2003. The verbiage on the GMC site has not changed in over 2 years, so this is not a new development. But AzSkeptic is so biased that he will bend over backward to slant things against the school. If you want to know the truth, contact the GMC, as I have and also read what SC reports. In case you want the "rest of the story" it's this: Licensure in the United Kingdom
Graduates of St. Christopher’s College of Medicine are eligible for limited registration with the
General Medical Council. Students are eligible to sit for the PLAB and MRCP exams. After several years of supervised work, graduates can qualify for full registration pending the results of their performance.

Now, you can buy into AzSkeptics efforts to bah the school or you can read between the lines of the promo for this radio program in which it is acknowledged that SC students are rotating through NHS hospitals and there is a graduate surgeon. How could students rotate through NHS hospitals, side by side with the students from the established UK medical schools? How could there be a surgeon who graduated from SC practicing in the UK? Could it be that there is, how the UK puts it, "Limited Registration" for a few years while they are under supervision before Full Registration?

An ethical person would have told you all of this. Please note that AzSkeptic did not. Not only did he not tell the whole story, he bent over backward to suggest that there was a recent "major negative" against the school. You would expect this kind of behavior from somebody trying to sell you a used trailer. It is inexplicable how VMD could let this individual continue as the moderator of the licensing forum. Any good this individual has ever done is outweighed by this kind of behavior.
You are incorrect. Compare todays website:

http://www.gmc-uk.org/education/unde...uate_level.asp

with its latest version in the archive file:

http://web.archive.org/web/200411060...ed/default.htm

vastly different in tone.

today readers see:

We are currently investigating this institution's affiliation to the St Christopher ‘s College of Medicine in Senegal. Until our investigations are complete we have suspended our acceptance of medical degrees awarded by this institution and/or any of it's affiliations. Please contact us for advice if you are currently studying or applying to study at this institution.


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Old 11-04-2005, 10:28 AM
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Put your ethics on the line, Teratos. Will you acknowledge the verbiage has not changed in over two years?

How about commenting that SC students are in NHS hospitals, side by side with the established school students?
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Old 11-04-2005, 10:30 AM
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I don't know anything about where SC students rotate, so I can't comment. The verbiage on the GMC website most certainly has changed. G
Then:
Graduates of St. Christopher’s College of Medicine are eligible for limited registration with the General Medical Council. Students are eligible to sit for the PLAB and MRCP exams. After several years of supervised work, graduates can qualify for full registration pending the results of their performance.
Now:
We are currently investigating this institution's affiliation to the St Christopher ‘s College of Medicine in Senegal. Until our investigations are complete we have suspended our acceptance of medical degrees awarded by this institution and/or any of it's affiliations. Please contact us for advice if you are currently studying or applying to study at this institution.
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Teratos and Az are correct. Just to make things extra clear there is a new page on the GMC site devoted to St. Chris, some Russian schools and Liberia it is:-
http://www.gmc-uk.org/doctors/how_to...lification.asp
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Old 11-04-2005, 10:41 AM
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Well, Az, the link you provided to the GMC web site, alleging a change in tone, doesn't mention St. Christopher's at all. It does reiterate its non-acceptance of the Medical College of London's degrees, but it posted that information over 2 years ago, too. Please note that MCL is not SC...you seem to have some difficulty keeping your facts straight...kind of like when you posted that story about FMG's driving taxis in Canada to use in response to an IMG issue. Maybe by now you have learned the difference between the two, oh great licensing expert. Yes, I am watching you.
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Old 11-04-2005, 10:44 AM
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I don't know anything about where SC students rotate, so I can't comment. The verbiage on the GMC website most certainly has changed. G
Then:
Graduates of St. Christopher’s College of Medicine are eligible for limited registration with the General Medical Council. Students are eligible to sit for the PLAB and MRCP exams. After several years of supervised work, graduates can qualify for full registration pending the results of their performance.
Now:
We are currently investigating this institution's affiliation to the St Christopher ‘s College of Medicine in Senegal. Until our investigations are complete we have suspended our acceptance of medical degrees awarded by this institution and/or any of it's affiliations. Please contact us for advice if you are currently studying or applying to study at this institution.
Teratos, the first quote is from the school's web site, your second quote is from the GMC web site and is over two years old.
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Old 11-04-2005, 10:48 AM
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Teratos and Az are correct. Just to make things extra clear there is a new page on the GMC site devoted to St. Chris, some Russian schools and Liberia it is:-
http://www.gmc-uk.org/doctors/how_to...lification.asp
That is not a new page. Again, reconcile this old information with the SC students being permitted in NHS hospitals and the one graduate practicing in the UK. This wouldn't be happening if the GMC wasn't letting it.
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Old 11-04-2005, 10:59 AM
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