Chat on Monday, June 30, 2003

16:56:27 [bts4202] lets let the party begin..lol

16:56:36 [bts4202] hi LGD

16:56:40 [bts4202] hows it going?

16:57:06 [bts4202] adjusting color

16:57:12 mtt enters this room

16:57:13 >[mtt] Welcome to our chat. Please obey the net etiquette while chatting: try to be pleasant and polite.

16:57:36 [LGD] hey, how's it going?

16:57:47 [bts4202] its going a lot better now that exams are over'

16:57:54 [mtt] hey bts

16:58:02 [mtt] welcome LGD

16:58:05 [bts4202] hey mtt, how were exams?

16:58:24 [LGD] thanks

16:58:25 [mtt] i hope ok

16:58:37 [bts4202] where are u from LGD?

16:58:38 [mtt] i'm just waiting for the scores to come out

16:58:49 [bts4202] yeah, pharm kicked my butt, but path was ok

16:58:52 thirst enters this room

16:59:04 [mtt] LGD we're both st chris students

16:59:06 [LGD] I'm with St. Chris, I transferred in a year ago

16:59:11 [mtt] welcome thirst

16:59:18 [thirst] hello

16:59:19 [mtt] oh

16:59:20 [LGD] I'm in my clinicals

16:59:26 [bts4202] I was in the GP's office till 6, and I have been studying for my PD exam tommorow since

16:59:27 [mtt] cool

16:59:30 [bts4202] I am exhausted

16:59:33 [LGD] how about you two?

16:59:33 IDreamOfMedicine enters this room

16:59:45 [mtt] 3rd sem

16:59:52 [mtt] welcome idream

16:59:52 [IDreamOfMedicine] hello

16:59:57 [thirst] is everyone here a current student?

17:00:02 [bts4202] OH, WOW... LGD, I am really glad to have a clinical student on these forums!!!

17:00:08 [IDreamOfMedicine] hey mtt, you know I am ***** right?

17:00:16 [mtt] yea, big surprise

17:00:25 [mtt] thanks for helping out LGD

17:00:27 [IDreamOfMedicine] hah

17:00:28 [bts4202] I am in 4th semester

17:00:28 [LGD] well, we're all in this together

17:00:31 [mtt] yes

17:00:38 [mtt] you got my emails?

17:00:41 [bts4202] how are clinicals going?

17:00:44 [IDreamOfMedicine] ya

17:00:48 [IDreamOfMedicine] thanx alot

17:00:52 [bts4202] do you mind me asking you were you are?

17:01:01 [IDreamOfMedicine] i am saving lots of money because of you

17:01:10 [IDreamOfMedicine] thanx

17:01:11 [LGD] no, not at all, my name is Dean

17:01:12 [mtt] thirst> i'm a current student in the basic sciences

17:01:29 [LGD] and clinicals are going very well

17:01:29 [bts4202] welcome THIRST

17:01:31 [IDreamOfMedicine] hey lgd where are you doing clinicals?

17:01:37 [thirst] i'm a prospective student for fall 03

17:01:42 [LGD] what's your names

17:01:47 [thirst] in detroit right now....

17:01:48 [bts4202] for sept or Jan?

17:01:54 [mtt] Henry

17:02:03 [bts4202] Dana

17:02:04 [LGD] I'm taking the summer off for the boards... hey henry

17:02:05 [thirst] sept

17:02:18 [LGD] then I've got psych in Baltimore, hey dana

17:02:24 [mtt] i'm one of the class reps

17:02:26 [LGD] then only electives

17:02:31 [mtt] bts is president of amsa

17:02:39 [IDreamOfMedicine] LGD> where did you do clinicals? or where are you looking to do clinicals at?

17:02:44 [IDreamOfMedicine] ohh ok

17:02:56 [IDreamOfMedicine] cool

17:03:03 [IDreamOfMedicine] Hopefully i get them in NJ

17:03:06 [bts4202] where did you do your cores?

17:03:09 [thirst] i see a lot of your postings in the forum...

17:03:11 [LGD] I did medicine and surgery in Louisiana, then peds and ob in NY

17:03:19 [IDreamOfMedicine] I have a few hospitals in mind, when should i start making the requests for them?

17:03:36 [IDreamOfMedicine] hospitals in nj

17:03:50 [LGD] honestly, the best luck I've had is by talking with Muniba

17:03:56 [bts4202] THIRST... do you have any questions about teh program?

17:03:56 [mtt] IDreamOfMedicine> when you near 5th sem

17:04:03 [IDreamOfMedicine] oh ok

17:04:03 [LGD] she's been great in helping me set things up

17:04:18 [IDreamOfMedicine] who is Muniba?

17:04:31 [bts4202] I have heard muniba is really nice.. I haven't talked with her yet myself

17:04:50 [thirst] do most of you set up clinicals on your own? or use hospitals the SCCM is affiliated with?

17:04:54 [LGD] she's in the main office, and sets up the clinical schedules, as far as i know, and yes, she's very nice

17:05:14 [LGD] to be honest, I'm really pleased with all that I've experience with the school thusfar

17:05:18 [bts4202] sccm sets up all of them... but you can mention hospitals to sccm and they will try to set it up

17:05:28 [IDreamOfMedicine] hey do u guys know the difference between the 2 Holiday Inn Expresses in Luton?

17:05:30 drclarke enters this room

17:05:39 [mtt] welcome drclarke

17:05:57 [IDreamOfMedicine] bts4202> when should we mention those hospitals? can i mention them as early as first semester to make sure they can get them for me?

17:06:07 [bts4202] sorry Idream, I live by London rd and I don't know where that one is... the airport one is nice but far from school

17:06:30 [bts4202] sure, all you do is write an email to clinicals@stchris.edu and ask them

17:06:47 [IDreamOfMedicine] its ok, my family is stayin at the Thistle, is that a good hotel?

17:07:03 [bts4202] the thistle is nice

17:07:09 [mtt] it's pretty good

17:07:13 [bts4202] great cafe in the bottom

17:07:15 [mtt] i stayed there

17:07:15 [IDreamOfMedicine] mtt> what time is orientation begin and end?

17:07:25 [mtt] no air conditn thou

17:07:35 [mtt] dunno... sorry

17:07:40 [IDreamOfMedicine] mtt> and what day is the first day of classes?

17:07:52 [drclarke] what time is it in luton?

17:08:18 [bts4202] LGD> what specialty are you thinking about doing?

17:08:23 [bts4202] 11:00pm

17:08:24 [thirst] do any of you know how big the september 03 class is going to be?

17:08:25 [LGD] Surgery

17:08:29 [LGD] how about you?

17:08:37 [bts4202] orientation starts at around 10:00am

17:08:37 [IDreamOfMedicine] hopefully those new apartments gonna be nice

17:08:46 [bts4202] I want IM then Cardio

17:08:54 [IDreamOfMedicine] bts4202> wut time does orientation end?

17:09:03 [LGD] brainiac

17:09:05 [mtt] IDreamOfMedicine> I forgot, I posted something a while ago.

17:09:10 [bts4202] THIRST: there are 88 applicants for Sept 2003

17:09:10 [IDreamOfMedicine] bts4202> ya i am thinkin about cardio or orthopedics or neurology

17:09:11 [mtt] IDreamOfMedicine> Please plan to arrive at St Christopher's prior to orientation, which is scheduled for August 29, 2003 at 10am in the auditorium.

17:09:26 [bts4202] orientation ends around 3:00 or 4:00 at the latest

17:09:29 [drclarke] what is the deal with housing for first term students? how do they determine who you room with?

17:09:36 [mtt] http://www.valuemd.com/viewtopic.php?t=2896

17:10:10 [IDreamOfMedicine] Is it possible for St. Chris grads to get a residency in Cardio, Orthopedics, or Neurology?

17:10:15 [bts4202] it is random unless you specify who you want to room with

17:10:33 [drclarke] have 88 been acceptedd for september, or are they just applying?

17:10:36 [bts4202] well, cardio is a fellowship so that depends on your IM residency which isn;t hard

17:10:53 [bts4202] Ortho is hard, but not imposs

17:10:59 [bts4202] don't know about neuro

17:11:06 [IDreamOfMedicine] i have good connects with ortho

17:11:13 [bts4202] applied, not all accepted yet

17:11:17 [IDreamOfMedicine] is neuro hard to get in general

17:11:22 [thirst] is there enough space at the school to accomodate that many ppl? i heard some other classes are only 30 students.

17:11:34 [bts4202] What do you thing LGD?

17:11:35 [IDreamOfMedicine] i have good connections with ortho and cardio

17:11:45 [LGD] there aren't enough people to go into neuro now

17:11:51 [LGD] so I've been told

17:11:54 [drclarke] so could the class be as large as 88? i thought it was limited to about 30. i prefer a larger class.

17:11:54 [mtt] IDreamOfMedicine> anything is possible. it depends how hard you work at it.

17:12:01 [bts4202] yeah, most classes are around 30, my class is 40... 88 people won't get accepted or show

17:12:10 [IDreamOfMedicine] ok cool

17:12:16 [bts4202] The limit on class size is 70

17:12:34 [bts4202] around 50 of the applicants are for 1st term

17:12:41 [IDreamOfMedicine] i hear there are going to be alot of apps for the sept 2004 apps

17:12:42 [mtt] my class is about 20-25 students

17:12:42 [bts4202] the rest are pre-med and transfers

17:12:52 [IDreamOfMedicine] i mean class

17:13:16 [drclarke] can you tell me about anatomy lab, in terms of what the student actually is required to do, etc..

17:13:18 [bts4202] sept is usually the largest

17:13:22 [IDreamOfMedicine] is that tru about sept 2004? from wut i am hearin alot of students gonna apply

17:13:26 [thirst] ok... much better than my original choice - AUC - 180 incoming, at least...

17:13:53 [mtt] IDreamOfMedicine> there are a lot of people applying

17:14:20 [IDreamOfMedicine] i am used to big classes, but i prefer small ones, at Rutgers my orgo class had like 300-400 kids alone

17:14:40 [bts4202] Anatomy lab is in london at GKT ... students spend 4 or 5 hours examing several different bodies that are all pre-sected and have tutors quiz you on all of it

17:15:03 [bts4202] the tutors teach you also

17:15:06 [bts4202] of course

17:15:09 [IDreamOfMedicine] i wish st. chris had those advertisements/postcards that could be put up at universities, cuz alot of people would wanna go to st. chris, thry just need info sent out

17:15:37 [mtt] IDreamOfMedicine> eventually will get those things

17:15:44 [drclarke] anatomy lab doesn't sound as gory as like most schools where you dissect. am i correct? sorry, but i have a problem with smell

17:15:44 [IDreamOfMedicine] i kno SGU and ROSS have them posted everywhere at Rutgers

17:15:49 [IDreamOfMedicine] ok cool

17:15:50 [mtt] probably once the new building is finished

17:15:56 [LGD] can anyone tell me if we're going to secure sites in FL, CA, or NY?

17:15:58 [bts4202] Thirst>> why did you transfer , if you don't mind me asking?

17:16:02 [mtt] we need to settle down first

17:16:06 [thirst] do most professors post notes for class? or do students have to purchase the notes?

17:16:15 [mtt] FL soon

17:16:19 [LGD] and also when we'll be able to do rotations in NJ?

17:16:21 [mtt] NY in the future

17:16:22 [LGD] how soon

17:16:32 [mtt] CA probably not

17:16:38 [mtt] very distant future

17:16:43 [bts4202] NY and Fl are the next places for us to work on residency approval

17:16:48 [LGD] how close are we to securing NY?

17:16:50 [mtt] NY is after NJ

17:16:54 [LGD] or FL

17:16:58 [bts4202] notes are all posted

17:17:00 [thirst] bts4202> no, i'm not a txfr. i'm new, but AUC was my first choice originally.. i was told to look into St. Chris in the last month or so!

17:17:07 [LGD] any possible time frame?

17:17:08 [mtt] however, we do have some sites in NY now

17:17:22 [mtt] and you can do clinicals up to 12 wks

17:17:27 [thirst] i have not been accepted yet.. just talked to louis conforti today..

17:17:31 [LGD] yep, I did peds and ob there

17:17:39 [bts4202] oh , ok

17:17:57 [IDreamOfMedicine] wait can we do rotations in NJ yet?

17:17:57 [drclarke] what is the average age of students there? are there any older students?

17:17:59 [LGD] but that filled the 12 weeks we

17:18:00 [bts4202] time frame is probably around a year

17:18:07 [LGD] we're allowed

17:18:13 [LGD] ok

17:18:15 xdknjx enters this room

17:18:27 [mtt] LGD, do they provide housing? That's a lot of moving around.

17:18:28 [IDreamOfMedicine] hey dave wussup

17:18:39 [mtt] welcome xdknjx

17:18:51 [bts4202] welcome xdknjx

17:19:03 [mtt] drclarke> maybe mid 20s

17:19:10 [LGD] no housing, and if anyone goes to ny, please contact me

17:19:14 [bts4202] good luck thirst!!

17:19:18 [mtt] we have some in the lower 20s and several in the 30s

17:19:19 [LGD] I'll tell you where to stay away from

17:19:32 [IDreamOfMedicine] am i the youngest one going to st chris?

17:19:36 [IDreamOfMedicine] i am 21

17:19:39 [xdknjx] what's up *****

17:20:02 [bts4202] Idream... I know clnical students that are 21

17:20:13 [IDreamOfMedicine] wow

17:20:18 [bts4202] yup

17:20:20 [IDreamOfMedicine] nevermind then haha

17:20:32 [IDreamOfMedicine] well i meant at luton

17:20:34 [bts4202] lol

17:20:35 [drclarke] i understand that new students will be housed in apartments. is that true? no dorms?

17:20:50 [bts4202] there is one other 21 year old here now

17:20:58 [IDreamOfMedicine] i heard the apts gonna be hooked up

17:21:05 [bts4202] Drclarke... I don't kow the updates on that

17:21:39 [IDreamOfMedicine] hey dave, bts and mtt are current students so you can ask them stuff

17:21:45 [mtt] Info on new housing: http://www.stchris.edu/pages/housing.htm

17:21:54 [IDreamOfMedicine] xdknjx> hey dave, bts and mtt are current students so you can ask them stuff

17:22:15 [IDreamOfMedicine] xdknjx> and LGD is in his clinicals in USA

17:22:18 [drclarke] how do most students access the internet from luton? do most of you

17:22:19 [mtt] lgd is also a current student in clinicals

17:22:23 [bts4202] and LGD is a clinical student so he has the low down on the fun part of med school

17:22:42 [drclarke] have a land line phone in your apartments?

17:22:50 [bts4202] yeah, I do

17:22:51 [mtt] drclarke> we have a wireless network and our own computer lab

17:22:59 [bts4202] It is 4 pence a minute to the states

17:23:02 [IDreamOfMedicine] ya can i use a mini PCI card? 802.11g

17:23:17 [mtt] there are internet cafes, local library, etc...

17:23:20 [bts4202] yeah, u can

17:23:29 [IDreamOfMedicine] the dell or intel onescards

17:23:33 [IDreamOfMedicine] oops

17:23:40 [IDreamOfMedicine] i mean intel or dell ones

17:23:43 [bts4202] I have a cable modem in my house 512K

17:23:45 [drclarke] what is a pence? do you get charged if you are using the wireless network on campus? i thought it was all free.

17:23:58 [thirst] LGD: what is the process to secure a clinical rotation? do you have to get a certain board score, then meet with a clinical coord?

17:24:03 [bts4202] like cent

17:24:29 [IDreamOfMedicine] LGD> what is your favorite hospital so far?

17:24:30 [bts4202] drclarke> I was talking about my house land line

17:24:33 [LGD] as far as I know we don't have to have a certain score on the boards

17:24:45 [LGD] so far, louisiana was the best hospital

17:24:54 [LGD] but that's in Louisiana...

17:25:02 [bts4202] were you at LSU-sherevport

17:25:03 [LGD] NY was closer to home for me

17:25:06 [IDreamOfMedicine] LGD> is it first come first serve with clinicals?

17:25:13 [LGD] LSU-Houma

17:25:19 [drclarke] oh, i see. thanks. i thought you meant there was a charge to use the internet from campus. thanks

17:25:19 [thirst] LGD: can you do all of your clinical at one hospital?

17:25:33 [LGD] I know some states want you to have boards, when others don't

17:25:51 [LGD] you can do everything in Houma, but it depends on what your state license board wants

17:26:00 [IDreamOfMedicine] LGD> does NJ need boards?

17:26:09 [LGD] I'm from CT, so I had to do all of my cores in Greenbook hospitals to be safe

17:26:17 [IDreamOfMedicine] mtt> can we do all of our clinicals in NJ yet?

17:26:31 [LGD] I'm not up on NJ sorry to say

17:26:41 [LGD] I'd like to know myself

17:26:52 [mtt] from my meetings w/ the director, you can do some there

17:27:02 [mtt] i'm not sure if you can do them all

17:27:17 [LGD] well, that's good, where

17:27:36 [LGD] I'd like to go there myself

17:27:41 [mtt] Atlanta can do all in that state but not necessarily in one hospital

17:28:04 [IDreamOfMedicine] mtt> so can we do some there, then ny, then ct? hopefully by the time i reach clinicals in 2 years, I can do all of my clinicals in NJ

17:28:04 [LGD] that's correct

17:28:09 [mtt] Illinois I think 4 out of 5 clinicals

17:28:11 [drclarke] what are greenbook hospitals? is it possible to do all rotations at greenbook hospitals? i live in a tough state.

17:28:27 [mtt] IDreamOfMedicine> i think so

17:28:46 [mtt] drclarke> acgme accredited hospitals

17:28:47 [LGD] greenbook only means that the hospital has an ACGME approved residency in the core you're going to do there

17:28:59 [mtt] we only have greenbook hospitals

17:29:08 [IDreamOfMedicine] mtt> so u think by the time i am starting my clinicals, we can do all of our clinicals in NJ if I wish

17:29:09 [LGD] california says that if they have family medicine, then all you do there is good

17:29:11 [mtt] and only put students in greenbook hospitals

17:29:12 [LGD] not so in CT

17:29:26 [mtt] according to the director

17:29:45 [thirst] if there is only one hosp (lsu-houma) to do all clinicals, is it competitve to get a spot there?

17:30:02 [LGD] they are greenbook, but you have to look for the qualifications of each core, depending on the state you're from

17:30:15 [IDreamOfMedicine] man i am really excited about England and St. Chris this sept

17:30:26 [LGD] it wasn't competetive when I was there

17:30:50 [LGD] surgery rocked there

17:31:10 [IDreamOfMedicine] mtt> bts4202> is the application pool growing year by year?

17:31:25 [bts4202] there is also clins at LSU-Shreveport and everything can be done there

17:31:32 [mtt] i would say so

17:31:33 [drclarke] carrib. students are very bored with their living environment. how would you say living in luton compares?

17:31:38 [bts4202] the application pool is growing semester by semester

17:31:49 [IDreamOfMedicine] nice

17:31:52 [LGD] is that true, because I've heard otherwise

17:31:55 [mtt] i like living here

17:32:04 [mtt] but it's not for everyone

17:32:10 [bts4202] luton is ok... I mean it has everything you would need, but the really nice thing is being 15 min from london

17:32:17 [IDreamOfMedicine] LGD> what did u hear?

17:32:25 [mtt] if you're looking for US living, you'll be disappointed

17:32:27 [drclarke] what u.s. area would you compare luton to?

17:32:39 [mtt] you need to adapt to a different culture

17:32:42 [bts4202] LGD> are u asking about sherevport?

17:32:50 [LGD] I've heard shreveport is not open to us

17:32:52 [LGD] yes

17:32:57 [IDreamOfMedicine] drclarke> it is like New brunswick from wut i hear, which is not bad at all

17:32:59 [mtt] a middle class suburb

17:33:13 [mtt] that's very diverse

17:33:16 [bts4202] Really? the director of medicine was here last year talking about his program

17:33:22 [LGD] only a few electives if we're lucky, but I don't know this for sure

17:33:51 [drclarke] it may not be u.s., but it does sound better than nevis, grenada or dominica. do you agree?

17:34:17 [mtt] never been to those places but probably

17:34:39 [mtt] i like the cold weather here

17:34:40 [LGD] ok, well I hope we do have it, and if I'm wrong then I'm happy

17:34:41 [bts4202] I have many friends that are caribb transfers and they say that living here is heaven by comparison...they do miss the beach though

17:34:45 [drclarke] i hear mostly of male students. are there a good proportion of female students, as well?

17:34:47 [mtt] sure beats the Florida heat

17:35:16 [mtt] there is beach here too

17:35:25 [mtt] just go to Brighton beach

17:35:29 [bts4202] I mean that it is heaven because the electricity stays on, there is big grocery stores, etc... you know comforts

17:35:47 [bts4202] the proportion is roughly 50-50

17:35:54 [mtt] or fly over to Ibiza

17:35:55 [IDreamOfMedicine] mtt> bts4202> do you know if they serve breakfast or lunch during orientation? and do parents usually accompany their kids for it?

17:36:00 [drclarke] can you walk to grocery stores or stop and go type places?

17:36:23 doc7 enters this room

17:36:24 [bts4202] parents don't usually accompany kids, but they are welcome to

17:36:26 [mtt] i think they have some snacks last time

17:36:32 [mtt] welcome doc7

17:36:42 [bts4202] we usually serve lunch., I was head of the orinetation comittee for a while

17:36:46 [LGD] mtt> do we have an alumni association?

17:36:49 [IDreamOfMedicine] ok cool

17:36:50 [doc7] Hi there

17:36:50 [drclarke] how do you usually get to london , how long does it take and how much cost?

17:36:57 [mtt] doc7> I and bts are current basic science students

17:36:58 [bts4202] you can walk everywhere

17:37:05 [mtt] LGD is a clinical student

17:37:27 [mtt] drclarke> via train

17:37:29 [doc7] Did the St. Christopher's students make it through their exams today?

17:37:35 [mtt] approx 30 min train ride

17:37:38 [drclarke] is it relatively safe to walk during the day?

17:37:40 [bts4202] you take the train to london.. costs around 8-12 pounds round trip and all of the tube... takes 15 minutes on thefast trian, 30 on the slow

17:37:58 [bts4202] DOC7> we will find out tomm... I hope so

17:38:05 [mtt] drclarke> safe in the day

17:38:08 [IDreamOfMedicine] nice, i heard the nightlife kicks gluteal, do we have time to party the first week?

17:38:09 [bts4202] doc7> thanks for asking

17:38:15 [mtt] some weirdos at night

17:38:23 [mtt] typical city life

17:38:26 [doc7] So now do you get to undwind for the week or is there more to study?

17:38:31 [bts4202] IDream> there is plenty of time the first week to party

17:38:36 Rao enters this room

17:38:51 [bts4202] doc7> have start studying right way, I am already behind

17:38:51 [IDreamOfMedicine] hello

17:38:54 [mtt] welcome rao

17:38:59 [bts4202] Dr. Rao??

17:39:13 [doc7] How do you handle having all your exams on one day - is that manageable?

17:39:13 [bts4202] its dana... hello!!

17:39:29 [Rao] not Dr.Rao

17:39:45 [mtt] doc7> time management

17:39:52 [IDreamOfMedicine] Can people introduce themselves and where they are from and if they are applying to St. Chris. cuz there are a good amount of people here

17:39:58 [drclarke] how much does a phone deposit cost, if you get a phone in your apt.?

17:40:00 [bts4202] no? ok...

17:40:14 [thirst] thirt -- from detroit -- maybe coming in sept 03

17:40:22 [IDreamOfMedicine] I'm ***** from NJ and I am comin sept 03

17:40:24 [thirst] thrist, that is

17:40:29 [doc7] I just submitted my application to St. Chris for the September term. I'm also from Detroit.

17:40:31 [bts4202] drclark> don't remember... not too much

17:40:46 [drclarke] i am from houston. accepted. but haven't sent my deposit

17:40:47 [mtt] Rao> bts and I are basic science students. LGD is a clinical student.

17:40:48 [bts4202] Dana... 4th semester

17:40:57 [IDreamOfMedicine] nice sept 03 woo

17:41:02 [Rao] Can Some body help me with GPA for st.Chris

17:41:12 [LGD] Dean... clinicals

17:41:19 [bts4202] admissions GPA?

17:41:31 [bts4202] or st chris classes GPA?

17:41:31 [Rao] Yes

17:41:45 [drclarke] is rao an instrctor at the school?

17:41:51 [IDreamOfMedicine] i picked a 3 bedroom flat with a large room, hopefully they are nice

17:42:11 [bts4202] st chris looks at the whole picture... experience, etc... no one factor is looked at alone

17:42:26 [bts4202] if you have alow GPA but a high MCAT, you may be ok

17:42:31 [Rao] I am parent and doing some research for my sone

17:42:35 [IDreamOfMedicine] Rao do you mind if I ask your GPA

17:42:44 [bts4202] If you have alow MCAT, but lots of experience, than it not too much a problem

17:42:46 [IDreamOfMedicine] oh ok

17:42:55 [thirst] did you all 'interview' with william condice via phone?

17:42:59 [bts4202] where are you from Rao

17:43:02 [mtt] there is no min GPA, but we do recommend at least a 3.0

17:43:03 [IDreamOfMedicine] nevermind, i wont ask gpa's, thas not my job heh

17:43:17 [Rao] TN usa

17:43:19 [drclarke] admissions did not ask for my mcat score.

17:43:28 [IDreamOfMedicine] ya i was interviewes by william, he is a really nice guy

17:43:29 [bts4202] MCAT is not required

17:43:40 [bts4202] it doesn't hurt you, but not essential

17:43:56 [IDreamOfMedicine] my ex-gf wants to apply too, haha, OH NO!

17:43:59 [IDreamOfMedicine] hehe

17:44:00 [mtt] if you took the mcat, just send in the score.

17:44:09 [mtt] lol

17:44:14 [bts4202] lol,

17:44:14 [LGD] what's the campus like in Luton, and what's it going to look like in a year?

17:44:32 [Rao] I read in some forum about this school, The school is located on pizzahut is it true

17:44:33 [bts4202] have you seen the photo albulm in valuemd

17:44:35 [IDreamOfMedicine] hey Dave? are you there bro?

17:44:48 [thirst] LGD: did you start in cambridge?

17:44:49 [LGD] seen it, but I still don't have a good feel for it

17:44:56 [xdknjx] yup..eating dinner..haha

17:44:57 [mtt] LGD> check the pics in the st chris forum too

17:44:59 [LGD] no, I transferred in

17:45:05 [IDreamOfMedicine] nice

17:45:13 [Rao] Yes and some on other forums

17:45:37 [bts4202] Rao> no that is not true...it is advised that anyone interested in attending here should come and visit themselves

17:45:56 [drclarke] i can not read rao's responses.

17:46:25 [doc7] Rao, your text is in black, you should hit the color swatch to the right

17:46:48 [IDreamOfMedicine] dave dave dave wooooo

17:47:16 [bts4202] LGD, the building we are in now is going to be the pre-med building... the other one will be the med school... it si huge

17:47:28 [bts4202] that should be done by the first quarter of next year

17:47:30 [thirst] does st. chris follow the attendance policy outlined on the website?? -- miss 20% of classes and fail?

17:47:32 [doc7] is that the one you move into in January?

17:47:47 [bts4202] yeah, thats the one

17:47:49 [mtt] thirst> attendance is enforced

17:47:51 [Rao] Can some body give atleast some info about USMLE pass Rate

17:47:54 [IDreamOfMedicine] I hear alot of the Carib schools gettin jealous hahah

17:48:03 [bts4202] thrist> YES, VERY VERY STRICTLY

17:48:16 [IDreamOfMedicine] my cousin who went to SGU is jealous haha

17:48:18 [mtt] Rao> rao it's in the faq

17:48:18 [drclarke] i have heard there is a pizza hut in your building? is it in operation?

17:48:22 [bts4202] 85% first time pass rate overall

17:48:29 [LGD] bts4202> yes, that's what I've heard, but I'd like to hear what you people there are experiencing, I've got a friend who wants to go there and I don't know what to tell her

17:49:05 [mtt] LGD, we're in the process of settling down

17:49:09 [LGD] the school is great with regard to clinicals, but I know nada about the basic sciences there or the lifestyle

17:49:09 [drclarke] why are the caribb. schools jealous of st chris, and why would st georges especially?

17:49:15 [doc7] I have a question about shelfs.. since you don't have them yet, do you still feel prepared for the USMLE?

17:49:19 [bts4202] I have all of the layout for the new building.. I can email you if you want

17:49:19 [IDreamOfMedicine] was last semester 100%?

17:49:32 [mtt] we moved out of Luton Univ into a temporary office building

17:49:34 [Rao] How many students from a given class take USMLE test

17:49:41 [mtt] while they remodel the new building

17:49:48 [IDreamOfMedicine] drclarke> because of livin conditions in england

17:49:50 [bts4202] Rao> all of them

17:50:06 [IDreamOfMedicine] drclarke> i didnt say all of SGU, i said my cousin

17:50:21 [mtt] drclarke> because they're losing students and we have a better business model

17:50:24 [Rao] There is no drop out

17:50:38 [drclarke] well that makes sense. thanks. it seems that the living conditions are much better.

17:50:46 [thirst] is there any concern among students regarding no shelf exams for bms or clinicals?

17:51:01 [LGD] mtt> I've heard about the new construction, how's that going so far?

17:51:02 [bts4202] there is low attritian, not NO attritian... students have been expelled for behavior

17:51:05 [mtt] doc7> i think we're prepared. we focus on more clinical stuff than superfluous material

17:51:39 [IDreamOfMedicine] nice

17:51:41 [mtt] LGD> it's going slow

17:51:57 [mtt] the director is currently meeting with the building contractors

17:52:05 [mtt] the british are slow too

17:52:06 [LGD] thirst> I've not heard of shelf exams for the basic sciences, but you can take them in clinicals if they're being given to students from other schools, but you gotta smile

17:52:06 [doc7] i know clinicals is a sensitive question because you don't get info until 5th semester.. i have to ask though: has anyone done clinicals in michigan??

17:52:07 [bts4202] thirst> the shelf exam is only take by students in other schools who ahve low GPA's... we have princeton review in the 5th term, so we are prepared

17:52:53 [IDreamOfMedicine] how is the weather in sept?

17:53:01 [mtt] doc7> i think so. we have several students from michigan

17:53:05 [IDreamOfMedicine] should we have fall/winter clothes ready?

17:53:12 [mtt] i think they go to providence

17:53:16 [bts4202] its warm, but starts cooling off quickly

17:53:16 [LGD] I don't know of anyone doing them there, personally, but that doesn't mean you can't get them there

17:53:30 [thirst] bts: ok.. many of my friends in us med schools take shelf exams as well... for practice....

17:53:50 [mtt] IDreamOfMedicine> be prepared for the seasons

17:53:51 [bts4202] oh, I don't know about US schools...

17:53:55 [IDreamOfMedicine] ok

17:54:16 [mtt] bring some waterproof clothes for those rainy days

17:54:19 [bts4202] You take the princeton, but can also take a <a target=new href=http://click.linksynergy.com/fs-bin/click?id=c97WUMRO5hY&offerid=47491.10000052&type=4 &subid=0>Kaplan</a> if you still don't feel ready

17:54:23 [mtt] and a jacket for those cold days

17:54:31 [Rao] Do you have any body from TN

17:54:33 [drclarke] why was princeton review course chosen over <a target=new href=http://click.linksynergy.com/fs-bin/click?id=c97WUMRO5hY&offerid=47491.10000052&type=4 &subid=0>Kaplan</a>? i thought <a target=new href=http://click.linksynergy.com/fs-bin/click?id=c97WUMRO5hY&offerid=47491.10000052&type=4 &subid=0>Kaplan</a> was considered the best.

17:54:40 [IDreamOfMedicine] My health advisor was saying how he was hearing LOTS of good things about St. Chris

17:54:40 [bts4202] I havetaken several practice USMLE exams and even though I am in 4th I still know most of teh info

17:55:10 [thirst] bts: that's great!

17:55:12 [LGD] thirst> students with low gpa's take the shelf exams? Shelf exams are focused on specific subject areas in the clinical sciences

17:55:16 [mtt] one guy is doing residency at the univ of TN

17:55:23 [bts4202] Rao> don't know about Tenn

17:55:33 [bts4202] Oh, yeah... duh

17:55:36 [bts4202] lol

17:55:40 [LGD] anyone in clinicals is eligible, depending on the hospital's policies and practices

17:55:43 [Rao] Thanks

17:55:46 [bts4202] thanks Thirst..

17:56:03 [mtt] Rao> Visit here: http://www.stchris.edu/pages/housing.htm

17:56:05 [thirst] do any of you now of ppl doing residency in MI from st. chris?

17:56:11 [doc7] is the fourth semester stujust wondering how your doctors office visits are going.. i heard you start that 4th or 5th semester.

17:56:28 [mtt] sorry bad link rao

17:56:32 [bts4202] Thirst> don't know anyone personally

17:56:34 [mtt] this one: http://gsm.utmck.edu/residents/dept.cfm

17:56:51 sdes enters this room

17:56:55 [Rao] I visited earlier this web page and found the page is not well presented

17:56:56 [bts4202] OH OH, I have some news for everyone... don't count your chickens before they hatch, but.........

17:57:05 [IDreamOfMedicine] When is first day of class?

17:57:16 [mtt] doc7> bts is currently doing that

17:57:26 [mtt] welcome sdes

17:57:39 [doc7] oh, thanks mtt. bts, how is it going?

17:57:54 [IDreamOfMedicine] wussup bts

17:57:58 [IDreamOfMedicine] wut news

17:58:02 [bts4202] Our managing director is having ameeting with Dr. ***** in 2 weeks and plans to convince him to release a list of matches for the USMLE this year in cluding names, places, and speciality

17:58:21 [doc7] cool.

17:58:21 [bts4202] he plans to release it on the webiste'... st chris website

17:58:24 [IDreamOfMedicine] thats good

17:58:35 [thirst] that is good news....

17:58:49 [bts4202] I talked with him and he agreed that it is a really valuable peice of info

17:58:56 [LGD] It was nice chatting with all of you, and I wish everyone the best of luck

17:59:02 [bts4202] I hope it happens, out MD is a very persuasive man

17:59:06 [mtt] bts, tell doc7 about your visits to the clinics

17:59:08 [drclarke] why doesn't st chris publish the names of clinicals and residencies.other schools do.

17:59:16 [mtt] thanks LGD

17:59:17 [thirst] does st. chris use same textbooks as us schools? do you have to 'buy' prof notes/book like some other schools?

17:59:18 [xdknjx] IDreamOfMedicine> gotta go..later

17:59:18 [doc7] thanks LGD

17:59:20 [mtt] keep in touch

17:59:26 [LGD] I've got to bail, but if anyone wants a heads-up on clinicals just drop me a line

17:59:32 hernanh enters this room

17:59:35 [IDreamOfMedicine] xdknjx> ok take care man

17:59:49 [LGD] should I put my cell number here for you guys, or is that a no no

17:59:49 [thirst] thanks lgd..

17:59:51 [mtt] welcome hernanh

18:00:10 [hernanh] Hello

18:00:16 [mtt] no LGD

18:00:19 [bts4202] The clinic ROCKS, I see so much pathology... I realize how much I know because I end up assessing the patients and when the doc asks me what is going on I answser right 80% of the time

18:00:24 [mtt] use email

18:00:43 [bts4202] hello hernanh!!! welocome

18:00:47 [doc7] that's great. i really like that st. chris sends you to the clinics so early.

18:00:51 [mtt] thanks again for your help

18:01:05 [doc7] you're probably prepared by the time you get to clinicals

18:01:10 [bts4202] that is only the 4th term, in 5th you are in the hospitals

18:01:17 Rao exits from this room

18:01:22 [hernanh] I would like to refer to the question I listed on the forum a week ago of Florida Recognition for Residency/Recognition

18:01:22 [LGD] ok, I can be reached at dlaporte@stchris, I'd like to hear from you guys, and I'll answer any q's you might have

18:01:32 [LGD] take care

18:01:35 Rao enters this room

18:01:51 [mtt] sorry hernanh, i've been backlogged w/ questions

18:02:06 [hernanh] I also meant Licensure

18:02:11 [bts4202] extremely prepared... the docs are very impressed with us... my GF was arguing with the residents about a case and the attending told them SHE was right!!

18:02:14 [thirst] does st. chris give you an email id?

18:02:15 [mtt] currently, we are working on the approval process for FL

18:02:24 [hernanh] It is ok i will wait

18:02:24 [IDreamOfMedicine] nice

18:02:34 [bts4202] thrist> yes

18:02:35 [IDreamOfMedicine] hey hernan where r u from

18:02:37 [mtt] Right now you can not do clinicals or residency.

18:02:42 [doc7] that's great...

18:02:48 [hernanh] Is it for residency or rotation

18:02:50 [mtt] However, you are eligible for licensure.

18:03:00 [mtt] You could do clinicals or residency in FL

18:03:14 [mtt] but if you do them while we are not approved

18:03:24 [hernanh] How long will this process take

18:03:26 [Rao] Thanks to all good bye

18:03:28 [mtt] you will be ineligible for licensure

18:03:35 [bts4202] bye Rao.. good luck

18:04:17 [mtt] both

18:04:23 [doc7] I'm thinking about coming out to St. Chris for a visit in July.. are there bad dates to visit? (when are exams scheduled?)

18:04:51 [bts4202] around july 28th is exams

18:05:00 [mtt] I'm from FL hernanh

18:05:03 [doc7] thanks bts

18:05:09 [sdes] mtt do you know what states St. Chris is eligible for liscensure in or which ones they aren't

18:05:16 [bts4202] you are welcome to email me and I will help you set up meetings and meet you

18:05:33 [mtt] i'll tell you which ones we're not

18:05:34 [doc7] thank you so much.

18:05:36 [bts4202] welcome doc7

18:05:40 [IDreamOfMedicine] ahhhh my ex-gf frustrates me, she couldnt figure out how to register and come to chat

18:05:43 [IDreamOfMedicine] haha

18:05:47 [mtt] Calif, new mexico, and penn

18:05:59 [mtt] the rest you have to check out for yourself

18:06:09 [IDreamOfMedicine] even after i told her step by step

18:06:12 [bts4202] lol... are u helping her?

18:06:14 [sdes] ok thanks

18:06:18 [bts4202] ha ha ha h

18:06:31 [mtt] lol

18:06:32 [doc7] sorry to ask this.. how do we check it out? through the ECFMG?

18:06:50 [mtt] not ecfmg

18:06:58 [bts4202] doc7> how do you check what out?

18:07:10 [hernanh] I am from Miami

18:07:11 [doc7] licensure issues

18:07:21 [mtt] fsmb

18:07:22 [thirst] http://www.ama-assn.org/ama/pub/category/2645.html

18:07:25 [mtt] http://www.fsmb.org/

18:07:31 [hernanh] I really need to at least get licensure in FL

18:07:32 [thirst] that's a link to state licensing boards

18:07:35 [bts4202] oh, you need to call each board in the states you want to practice

18:07:45 [IDreamOfMedicine] When should we start studying for the USMLE Step 1? and which book do you recommend? I know Princeton Review teaches during the 5th semester, but what can we use other than their books?

18:07:48 [mtt] also check the valuemd.com licensure forum for help

18:08:01 [doc7] ok - thank you

18:08:15 [mtt] np

18:08:27 [bts4202] It has been recommended to me by a student who got a 96% to use first aid form day one

18:08:28 [sdes] yes thank you

18:08:43 [thirst] dream> many have recommended USMLE first aid to me.

18:08:46 [IDreamOfMedicine] mtt> how long until we are fully approved in NJ and NY?

18:09:17 [mtt] click on "state medical board info" | "board directory"

18:09:25 [bts4202] already approved in NJ

18:09:31 [mtt] NJ we are technically approved

18:09:32 [bts4202] Ny is next

18:09:46 [hernanh] mtt how long would it take for Florida Approval for residency

18:09:51 [IDreamOfMedicine] mtt> ok how long do you think ny will take?

18:09:52 [mtt] we're awaiting the final papers to come in

18:10:01 [mtt] NY, I don't know

18:10:09 [doc7] mtt> thanks. i'm going to look into it

18:10:11 [mtt] should be working on it soon

18:10:23 [mtt] maybe we'll start in a couple of months

18:10:37 [mtt] dunno, hernanh

18:10:38 [bts4202] without NY approval we are still eligible for licensure though

18:10:43 [hernanh] do you think they will be approved

18:10:54 [bts4202] just not resdency and >12 weeks clinicals

18:10:55 [mtt] they were looking at it recently and then it stalled for a couple of weeks

18:11:06 [mtt] politics is a slow process

18:11:26 [IDreamOfMedicine] I have to leave soon , anything else I need to know before I come for orientation?

18:11:42 [hernanh] I have two years to go to finish do you think by then

18:11:50 [IDreamOfMedicine] i am arrving to Luton on Aug 25

18:11:50 [mtt] we'll keep in touch Idream

18:11:53 [bts4202] not a thing...

18:12:04 [IDreamOfMedicine] can i get my apt room keys by then?

18:12:09 [doc7] i don't know if someone already asked this.. is there a St. Chris clinical instructor at each hospital where we do rotations?

18:12:32 [hernanh] Are you doing clinicals now mtt

18:12:41 [IDreamOfMedicine] Thanx alot guys, talk to you later, see u in sept

18:12:49 [bts4202] doc7> yes, all PD's are employed by st chris... we are taught by regular residents and PD's, but st chris pays them

18:13:02 [doc7] oh, ok.

18:13:28 [mtt] IDreamOfMedicine> you should be able to

18:13:44 [mtt] just call the school to make arrangements if you come too early

18:14:06 [mtt] hernanh> i'm a 3rd sem basic sci student

18:14:14 [mtt] LGD is in clnicals

18:14:21 [bts4202] everyone: I am exhausted... good luck to you all.. I hope to meet you here!!

18:14:28 [mtt] bts is a 4th sem student in the basic sci

18:14:35 [thirst] good luck to you!

18:14:37 [drclarke] good by. thanks for your help.

18:14:39 [mtt] ok bts

18:14:43 [mtt] catch you later

18:14:45 [doc7] thanks for all your info bts.

18:14:46 [bts4202] email me with any questions you may have : bts4202@hotmail.com

18:14:57 [bts4202] no prob!!

18:14:58 [mtt] i'll remain a little longer

18:15:04 [mtt] for more questions

18:15:08 [sdes] I have a question regarding black monday.

18:15:15 [doc7] great, i definitely will. i'm looking forward to meeting you in luton.

18:15:23 [mtt] go ahead

18:15:24 [sdes] What is the spacing of the exams on that day

18:15:37 [hernanh] mtt do you plan on doing residency in Fl

18:15:52 [sdes] also are those the final exams

18:15:54 [mtt] usually there's a 1hr break btwn exams

18:16:12 [mtt] hernanh> if we're approved --> yes

18:16:22 [mtt] if not, i'll do it anywhere

18:16:27 [mtt] I'm very flexible

18:16:38 [mtt] maybe louisiana

18:16:49 [hernanh] would that take longer than two years

18:16:51 [mtt] or illinois

18:16:52 [sdes] 1 hr spacing ---> that is brutal

18:17:12 [hernanh] for FL ofcoarse

18:17:18 [mtt] hernanh> can u be more specific?

18:17:39 [hernanh] FL approval sorry

18:17:59 [mtt] i don't know how long the process will take

18:18:10 [hernanh] Sorry I am so paranoid

18:18:16 [mtt] if we're not approved, it's ok

18:18:31 [mtt] i'll do them in england or anywhere else

18:18:58 [hernanh] I heard that St. Chris is only recognized by 16 programs

18:19:02 [mtt] sdes

18:19:10 [mtt] i had exams like this today

18:19:12 [sdes] yes

18:19:16 [hernanh] 16 States of course

18:19:23 [mtt] 8-9 micro/immuno

18:19:36 [mtt] 10-11 behav sci/epi

18:19:48 [mtt] 2-3 genetics

18:20:00 [thirst] micro/immuno is one class or two?

18:20:18 [mtt] 2 separate classes

18:20:31 [sdes] they are 1 hr exams

18:20:32 [mtt] but the test is combined

18:20:46 [mtt] most are 1 hr

18:20:47 [thirst] ohhh

18:20:58 [sdes] oh i see. are the exams m/c

18:21:05 [mtt] approx 50 questions

18:21:10 [mtt] yes

18:21:14 [doc7] how are the oral tests in anatomy?

18:21:22 [thirst] USMLE style?

18:21:26 [mtt] MCQs

18:21:34 [mtt] no test

18:21:46 [sdes] ok that makes sense

18:21:47 [mtt] in the anatomy lab they just quiz you orally

18:21:53 [doc7] so you just dissect?

18:22:01 [mtt] put you on the spot

18:22:11 [thirst] sorry to ask, what is an MCQ? (multiple choice ques?)

18:22:23 [mtt] cadavers have been dissected by SHOs

18:22:26 [mtt] for you

18:22:34 [mtt] you will get to touch the cadaver

18:22:39 [mtt] and manipulate it

18:22:39 [sdes] so regarding anatomy they point to a point on the specimen and ask you a question?

18:22:42 [doc7] is that what prosected means?

18:22:43 [mtt] not cut it

18:22:58 [mtt] they have a lot of specimens too

18:23:07 [mtt] w/ different pathological cases

18:23:13 [mtt] yes

18:23:15 [sdes] how long do you have to answer a question in anatomy

18:23:19 [mtt] pre-dissected

18:23:29 [mtt] it's a great experience thou

18:23:40 [mtt] sdes> yes

18:23:45 [doc7] you probably learn a lot.

18:23:49 [sdes] this sounds silly but what is a SHO

18:23:55 [doc7] are the instructors from King's?

18:23:59 [hernanh] mtt I heard that St. Chris is only recognized by 16 States

18:24:11 emerson24 enters this room

18:24:14 [mtt] sdes> depends on how often the teacher picks on you

18:24:27 [mtt] welcome emerson24

18:24:48 [mtt] doc7> yes, the instructors are from King's

18:25:02 [emerson24] thank you, hello to all

18:25:06 [mtt] they are senior house officers (SHOs)

18:25:11 [mtt] in surgical training

18:25:28 [mtt] equivalent to a US resident in surgical training

18:26:01 [mtt] hernanh> i can't confirm that

18:26:02 [thirst] mtt> do you ever work with any british med students?

18:26:13 [mtt] we are relatively new thou

18:26:23 [mtt] so you have to be flexible if you want to come here

18:26:40 [hernanh] I am starting in Sept clinicals

18:26:42 [emerson24] i didn't see the reply to st. chris only regocgnized by 16 states. sorry to interject

18:26:44 [mtt] we have talked to some

18:26:58 [mtt] and interacted with some in some dissections

18:27:04 [doc7] hernanh> what does "recognized mean"? that we can only do clinicals in 16 states?

18:27:11 [mtt] but your lectures are technically private

18:27:45 [mtt] hernanh> are you a transfer?

18:27:49 [hernanh] Doc7 Residency

18:28:02 [hernanh] mtt yes from UNIBE

18:28:07 [doc7] oh.. i hope that's not true.

18:28:20 [mtt] transferring into clincals?

18:28:29 [hernanh] yes

18:28:43 [mtt] k

18:29:18 [doc7] so does anyone know about the state recognition for residency?

18:29:19 [hernanh] I heard that some students that applied to New Jersey Residency got denied and had to come back to UNIBE

18:29:25 [thirst] mtt, thanks for your help... good luck!!

18:29:26 [mtt] the guy in clinicals just left

18:29:26 [sdes] I hope that isn't true wither doc7

18:29:38 [mtt] if you came earlier you could have asked him some quesitons

18:29:41 [emerson24] dinners ready, good nite all

18:29:44 [mtt] np thirst

18:29:59 [mtt] g nite

18:30:03 [hernanh] damn

18:30:46 [mtt] his nick was LGD

18:31:04 [mtt] just look it up on valuemd.com and email him

18:31:40 [mtt] any more questions?

18:31:44 [doc7] mtt, can i ask you a question about clinicals?

18:31:44 [hernanh] How come only 29 graduated from St. Chris when there are a lot more people than that enrolled

18:32:08 sdes exits from this room

18:32:18 [mtt] i'll try my best doc7

18:32:19 sdes enters this room

18:32:56 [doc7] are clinicals strung back to back? i know a lot of carib students have months in between sometimes..

18:33:11 [mtt] hernanh> i don't know what you're talking about

18:33:37 [mtt] so far most students enter right away

18:33:53 [hernanh] The graduation photo did not have a lot of people

18:33:56 [mtt] our director said you shouldn't wait more than a couple of weeks

18:34:06 [doc7] that's fantastic.

18:34:17 [mtt] however, some students take time off to study for the usmle

18:34:39 [mtt] he said you could even do clinicals in england

18:34:48 [doc7] maybe since the princeton review is incorporated now, students will start right away.

18:35:05 [mtt] take the usmle while you're doing the english rotation

18:35:22 [mtt] and when the scores come in, send it off to the programs that require scores

18:35:36 [mtt] some places require scores while others don't

18:35:58 [hernanh] Did you get my question

18:35:58 [sdes] sorry english rotations (could you be specific) i am lost

18:36:00 [mtt] our most competitive places require at least 205+

18:36:02 snazzy enters this room

18:36:14 [doc7] wow, that's high. what's considered competitive?

18:36:17 [mtt] instead of wasting time doing nothing

18:36:44 [mtt] you can do some rotation in england and take the exam in london

18:36:58 [mtt] that's what he said some students do

18:37:22 [sdes] ahh but does that effect your placement into a residency program in the states>

18:37:24 [mtt] welcome snazzy

18:37:47 QS8.0 enters this room

18:37:49 [mtt] i think your scores will dictate your residency placement

18:37:56 [mtt] welcome qs 8.0

18:38:08 [hernanh] Does it seem strange that not that many people graduated compared to the number of students doing clinicals now

18:38:18 [snazzy] hi, thanks mtt Unfortunately I wasn't able to get here in time and have missed most of the chat, I was wondering if it could be posted for others to see?

18:38:26 [mtt] we had a clinical student stop by today

18:38:31 [mtt] you just missed him

18:38:32 [QS8.0] hi

18:38:48 [mtt] i'll post the log for you snazzy

18:38:52 [mtt]

18:39:05 [snazzy] great, thanks!

18:39:20 [mtt] hernanh> i don't know how many graduated so I can't confirm your statement

18:40:12 [hernanh] Are the people in the graduation photo all there or did some not decide to show up

18:40:32 [mtt] hernanh> sorry hernanh, i don't know

18:40:36 [mtt] bts posted that

18:40:43 [mtt] and got that from someone else

18:41:05 [mtt] that might just be some of them

18:41:24 [mtt] in a hallway after the ceremony

18:41:38 [hernanh] oh

18:41:54 [hernanh] I thought that was all of them

18:41:57 [mtt] i wasn't there

18:42:05 [mtt] it was held in the UN building

18:42:10 [mtt] i was here in England

18:42:36 [mtt] qs or snazzy... any questions?

18:42:46 [mtt] i'll be leaving in 15 min

18:42:59 [mtt] anyone else?

18:42:59 [hernanh] Thanks for your time and goodbye

18:43:10 [mtt] sorry hernanh

18:43:15 [mtt] i tried my best

18:43:20 [hernanh] It is ok bye

18:43:31 [mtt] try emailing that clinical student

18:43:39 [mtt] for more answers

18:43:44 [mtt] take care

18:44:02 [QS8.0] sorry I got here late; I think I will look up the log for this chat session

18:44:32 [snazzy] ahh, no, most of my questions were answered by taking a few minutes of browsing through old threads! So I can't think of any more at the moment. I'm sure more will come up after I read the log, but posting on the forum has been more than helpful in answering my questions.

18:44:35 [mtt] his name was LGD

18:45:05 [mtt] if you guys are seriously coming

18:45:19 [mtt] and haven't sent me an email

18:45:29 [mtt] please do so

18:45:56 [mtt] so either me or bts can help you with your transition here

18:46:13 [snazzy] I'm still in the process of sending completing my application so that I can send it in, so I will email you if/when that's done and i've been accepted

18:46:30 [mtt] ok

18:46:41 [doc7] what's the best time to come in july? i know you have exams July 28th

18:47:09 [mtt] check out the exam schedule and try to avoid those dates

18:47:20 [mtt] any other time should be fine

18:47:27 [doc7] ok.

18:47:28 [mtt] usually bts is available

18:47:36 [mtt] i have class till 5pm

18:47:53 [mtt] so i can do evening tours

18:48:00 [snazzy] mtt, how long have you and bts been at St.Chris?

18:48:02 [mtt] i do thorough tours thou

18:48:08 [doc7] i'm going to try to visit in the next two weeks. i would love to have a tour

18:48:20 [mtt] i've been here almost a year

18:48:38 [mtt] bts slightly longer - by 4-6 months

18:48:41 [QS8.0] thanks mtt- I just received word that I was approved for my "Med-Achiever" loans. I just have to clear a few more financial obstacles before September.

18:48:53 [mtt] just tell me when you're coming exactly

18:48:59 [mtt] no surprise visits

18:49:12 [doc7] ok, i'll definitely email you when i know.

18:49:17 [mtt] otherwise, i'll be clueless

18:49:25 [mtt] either me or bts

18:49:38 [doc7] can i ask a question about instructors? are they mostly american?

18:49:48 [mtt] np qs

18:50:05 [mtt] i would say

18:50:18 [mtt] 1/3 American

18:50:24 [doc7] and the ones that aren't.. are they easy to follow?

18:50:38 [mtt] 1/3 foreign - indian, pakistani, etc

18:50:45 [mtt] 1/3 british

18:51:10 [mtt] the foreign instructors do have an accent

18:51:14 [mtt] i can adjust

18:51:19 [mtt] some people can not

18:51:33 [mtt] it depends on how open you are to diversity

18:51:48 [mtt] and tolerant to things like this

18:52:06 [mtt] i like the school

18:52:18 [mtt] the teachers are nice and care about you

18:52:35 [doc7] that sounds great.

18:52:36 [mtt] it's a small community

18:52:43 [doc7] so you can ask questions after class?

18:52:58 [mtt] can ask questions any time

18:52:59 [doc7] and are they full time instructors, or do they also teach at luton?

18:53:06 [mtt] we interact a lot in class

18:53:18 [mtt] full time instructors

18:53:28 [mtt] none teach any more for luton univ

18:53:40 [doc7] ok, thanks mtt

18:53:45 [mtt] we teach labs at luton univ

18:54:04 [mtt] king's teaches us w/ their own faculty for labs

18:54:12 [mtt] np

18:54:40 [mtt] ok 5 more mins

18:55:22 [doc7] does st. chris have their own library?

18:55:31 [QS8.0] mtt- I think I recall you indicating, due to some snafu, St. Chris students could no longer use all the facilities at Luton U. Is St Chris slowly disolving its relationship w/ Luton U?

18:56:04 [mtt] we have a problem w/ luton univ right now

18:56:18 [mtt] they wanted more money for their ID cards

18:56:27 [mtt] and our school refused to pay for them

18:56:40 [mtt] because they wanted an outrageous amount

18:56:54 [doc7] what does that affect now? facilities?

18:57:02 [mtt] so our school is slowly building our own labs, library, etc...

18:57:19 [mtt] labs= computer labs

18:57:28 [mtt] i don't think so

18:57:31 [QS8.0] Do you see a day in the very near future were St. Chris will have no affiliation w/ Luton U at all?

18:57:39 [mtt] i don't know how severe it is

18:57:46 [mtt] it's very political

18:58:07 [mtt] it's possible

18:58:21 [mtt] we're trying to get the research program going at luton univ

18:58:32 [mtt] and be more integrated with luton univ

18:58:42 [mtt] however, the admin at luton univ is strange

18:58:47 [mtt] and hard to work with

18:59:01 [mtt] they are also going through an admin change as we speak

18:59:11 [mtt] and are getting a new provost

18:59:26 [QS8.0] do you think that if St. Chris dropped its ties w/ Luton U, it could adversely affect the St. Chris program?

18:59:44 [mtt] we really don't need them because we're building our own facilities

19:00:03 jdrxy67 enters this room

19:00:09 [mtt] it's actually better because it's very hard competing with the undergraduate students in there

19:00:18 [mtt] i doubt it

19:00:25 [mtt] we only use their labs

19:00:32 [mtt] for micro and cell bio

19:00:51 [mtt] the rest is just gyms, library, etc...

19:01:16 [QS8.0] would the new St. Chris buildings be located on the Luton Campus?

19:01:39 [mtt] it is just east of the university

19:01:48 [mtt] technically, it's on their campus

19:01:59 [mtt] it's right next to some of their dorms

19:02:27 [mtt] we just built a new computer room

19:02:46 [mtt] and our computers are so much better than Luton's

19:03:07 [QS8.0] do you foresee Luton being vindictive and doing something to screw with the new building?

19:03:14 [mtt] it's also more peaceful in our new building

19:03:28 [mtt] and we don't have thousands of undergrads running around

19:03:41 [mtt] i don't think so

19:04:32 [doc7] where do you study?

19:04:47 [mtt] i study in our new building and at home

19:04:57 [mtt] the new building is open until 10pm

19:05:07 [doc7] so they have study rooms set up in the new building?

19:05:11 [mtt] luton univ currently is open only until 8pm

19:05:38 [mtt] we open up the large rooms and allow students to study there

19:06:16 [mtt] ok

19:06:41 [mtt] well, time sure went by fast

19:06:47 [mtt] i need to go

19:06:55 [mtt] sorry, it's getting late

19:06:58 [doc7] thanks for all your help mtt.

19:07:05 [mtt] i hope that helped

19:07:15 [QS8.0] thanks again mtt!

19:07:29 [doc7] it did. i'll probably still email with more questions as they come up. i hope that's ok

19:07:32 [mtt] if you have any further questions, please don't hesitate to email me

19:07:46 [mtt] it's ok

19:07:47 [doc7] thanks.

19:07:51 [mtt] ok good night

19:07:56 [mtt] poof

19:08:12 [doc7] good night.