Licensure, clinicals, residency - Page 3

AUCMD2006 · #21 (**permalink**) 04-12-2005, 08:01 PM

"note the issue of belize when SMU moved to caymans still under belize charter for sometime"

yea but the school moved its entire operation to caymans and got a new charter. SC has no plans to move nor apply for a UK charter. AUC did it in when they moved when the volcano went off also but they too moved and got a new charter.

the charter waters were recently tested in denying a training license to a SC grad, wether it was due to kigezi or SC is up to debate but since kigezi already has a training licensed grad in NJ according to you guys then it would weigh more heavily on SC being a factor wouldn't it?

bts4202 · #22 (**permalink**) 04-12-2005, 08:13 PM

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Originally Posted by rrod

the charter waters were recently tested in denying a training license to a SC grad, wether it was due to kigezi or SC is up to debate but since kigezi already has a training licensed grad in NJ according to you guys then it would weigh more heavily on SC being a factor wouldn't it?

Not really, the training license in texas was not recent. it was back in 2002 and was evaluating SC when the school was still in cambridge in 2000-1. How things were then has no bearing on how things are today in Luton. They commented that both programs were not centrally organized nor equivalent to a texas school (paraphrasing). The current state of organization and education at st chris is vastly different today than it was then.

BTW, Kigezi does not have a grad with a training license in NJ, they have a fully licensed grad.

ValuelessMD · #23 (**permalink**) 04-13-2005, 06:01 AM

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VCJ · #24 (**permalink**) 04-13-2005, 07:46 AM

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Originally Posted by ValuelessMD

If February 25, 2000 was the date of charter from Senegal, what will be the earliest a SC student will have gone through the entire curriculum at Luton from basic science to clincials, and residency, thus licensure (assuming students elect to do residency minimums)??? My calculations indicate July 2005 as the magical date. I believe this will be the real test as one should not consider clinical transfer students to SC as a measure of SC's potential charter issues. Opinons?, Corrections?

In July, these students will be entering PGY-2... and as some people on this forum have claimed only US students usually get licensure after 1st yr... so I think waiting till 2006 is more appropriate, as these students will have finished 2 yrs.

neilc · #25 (**permalink**) 04-13-2005, 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by ValuelessMD

If February 25, 2000 was the date of charter from Senegal, what will be the earliest a SC student will have gone through the entire curriculum at Luton from basic science to clincials, and residency, thus licensure (assuming students elect to do residency minimums)??? My calculations indicate July 2005 as the magical date. I believe this will be the real test as one should not consider clinical transfer students to SC as a measure of SC's potential charter issues. Opinons?, Corrections?

while i agree that it would be a more accurate test, it still says a lot that transfer students cannot or have not recieved licenses..why wouldn't they? either the old school or st chris is a negative on the transcript...and, i would bet that many of the transfers came from legit other schools (ie auc, ross, smu, etc...) so, if there are zero licenses from any st chris student by this point, it is certainly reasonable to assume that there were problems with the st chris portion of the education.

it would seem that the transfer student licenses would be a fairly easy way to assess the charter problems in that sense...at least SOMEBODY should have a license by now! convincing yourself that the reason you have not heard about licensing yet is because of the other school on the transcript (or if you are believing all the ** about the school not knowing, it is too soon, etc..) than i think you may just be burying your head in the sand....

there really is no reason that a grad from say 2002, that did his clinicals with st chris should not have a license by now. at least one of them!

You're Fired! · #26 (**permalink**) 04-13-2005, 12:47 PM

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neilc · #27 (**permalink**) 04-13-2005, 12:56 PM

well, there was at least one, in tenn. that was applying for licensure a while ago. hearing nothing about that can't be good news.

i have no idea about how many transfered in. anybody?

*edited for names by user

ValuelessMD · #28 (**permalink**) 04-13-2005, 03:31 PM

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VCJ · #29 (**permalink**) 04-13-2005, 04:39 PM

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Almost all states allow IMG's to be licensed (permenent, full license) after their PGY-III year. Many, if not most, will allow permenent licensure after PGY-II year. In the case of TN, IMG"s are eligible after 3 years. Residency programs want their residents to be fully licensed ASAP for many reasons -- signing their own script is just the beginning. A fully licensed resident also means revenue for the hospital because the hospital can bill for his or her services.

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surgery is 5 years, but as img's we are eligible for licensure typically in 3 years, although some states allow it after 2 of postgrad. the reason most residents need the license as soon as possible is that it allows them to sign scripts, etc...without cosigs from attendings. makes life a lot easier for everyone to have a full license as soon as possible, even if you are still a resident.

Neil

So that does mean we can wait till 2006, when our grads from the chartered college will be in PGY-3 next yr? help? so where is the discrepency?

Oh, and I also feel that transfer did have a problem, but no one has yet come out and claimed it to be St. Chris... I mean if I had a problem due to the college, I would be the first one contacting sites like this and the admin to express it. I think most will agree with this reasoning...

AUCMD2006 · #30 (**permalink**) 04-13-2005, 10:28 PM

no one has claimed it is SC but if kigezi already has licensed grads then one can infer that it is either the other college on the transcript (SC) was the issue or it was the fact that he transfered... either way it affects many students there that are both Sc students from semester 1 and transfer students... 2006 would be the earliest for the cahrtered grads but the ones that went without charter are screwed..is the school doing anything to hekp them, as i recall they were placing money in some large legal fund weren't they?

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