"your telling me this is pertinent information for perspective students?"

is it pertinent info that persepective students usually look for? NO should they? HELL YES


when you are admitted to any med school, specially after several denials it probably blinds you from asking too many questions being afraid of what you will find. as a perspective student you don't know much about what happens after basic science nor care...at that point the USMLE is all you are aiming for but it isn't as easy as that so you should have info such as licensed grads, residency placement, usmle pass rates, wether they own or rent perhaps? to gauge the overall school so things suchs as this ghost main campus, administration that doesn't want to be named, secret profesor lists, claims of approvals that didn't go through just pile on to its history. hopefully things go well for the students b/c if it doesn't the cayman island accounts of the shareholders will not be phased a bit.....

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[quote="Picard"]JAHCO still does announced visits. the hospital I am working at has one coming up soon.

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This is the last year/visit that are announced. Meaning, every hospital gets one last announced visit when their current accreditation is up. From then on, visits will be unannounced. This makes more sense because I've been through god knows how many JACHO visits in various hospitals as a student, resident, and now attending. It's a mad house for a few weeks prior to visit so that hospital looks good and everyone is prepped. The minute JACHO folks leave, it's back to business as usual It's very comical and worthless. If JACHO really means business, the visits should be unannounced, which is what they are going to do from now on.

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In Glock, We Trust... Everyone Else... Keep Your Hands Where I Can See Them.

http://www.odmp.org/search.php?searc...=2001&cause=27
http://www.nypdangels.com/wtc.htm
http://www.hampsteadnh.us/police/A%2...ica%20Died.htm
http://longmontpolice.com/MEMORIAM.HTM

[quote="Picard"]come on picard, how do you want people to believe you, when you for sure have an openly bias opinion of this school. U could be making up things just as likely, if not more, compared to the what u claim of the senegal campus or whatever your senagalese companion told you. The only credibile statement is the presence of the campus which was recently visited by NYS inspectors...

well said, another hypothetical scenario in your belt, picard....you are such a winner!!!

The NY State DOE approval is an appropriate step at this time for this college, (taking in account the IMG friendly atmosphere of the state)...also I think most people will agree this is a good thing to have before Californian approval is thought about...

And what did SMU still get recently, was it the NY DOE approval, as well???

Cool....a debate....that has no end to it.....but very useful for the future of SC grads......

From my understanding SC...even though a good setup but posses problems in licensure in the long run.....because many US states.....want the international students to have the education done at the place where they have a charter....

Now being a school in U.K is good and all but at the end is it good enough to get a license ....now that is something to think about.....

And as we all know .....all African countries are so unstable...new government comes all the time and its easy to get a charter or anything else........you can get a charter easily but does that charter hold any weight.......something to think about.....

At the end.....once can look at the other schools like Kigezi Medical School Forum and London Medical School in U.K that use to operate on the same grounds as St. Chris.....keep in mind that when the first grad will have a problem to get a license things are going to get worse....and same can happen as happened to Kigezi Medical School Forum and London Medical School.......and they eventually tried to move things down to their charter place...but did not work......

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There had already been enough discussions about what Senegal medical community thinks of SC-Senegal in the previous thread, so I'm not going to belabor another thread here, especially with someone who has never set foot in Senegal.
Plus, any reasonable person can tell you that when an official visit is announced months ahead of time, anyone can make any organization look presentabe in that time frame -- JACHO is a prime example. This is why JACHO abandoned it's announced visit policy. (If you don't know what JACHO is and how big of a deal JACHO visits are, do a google search).

Again, you are not reading the whole thread. I never said that NY approval process is a bad step for SC... Yes, it's a logical first step. My point is that it's NOT the end-all step that Soon2beadoc is making it out to be. NY approval is not what FSMB is looking for. Yes, SMU's NY approval is NOT the accreditation process, but SMU is not stopping there. They felt they were ready for California process... Yes, they were denied, but they have a great chance of approval in the near future as commented by the California board... SC, on the other hand, has ZERO chance of ever getting California approval because in order for California to even consider SC, SC needs to get out of Luton and move back to Senegal where the school is chartered. And it's the larger picture of FSMB that we are talking about here... NY approval is the basic minimum first step, but it's probably not enough to keep the school alive when a national standard for offshore school is adopted.

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Borg-Certified... Resistance is Futile.

In Glock, We Trust... Everyone Else... Keep Your Hands Where I Can See Them.

http://www.odmp.org/search.php?searc...=2001&cause=27
http://www.nypdangels.com/wtc.htm
http://www.hampsteadnh.us/police/A%2...ica%20Died.htm
http://longmontpolice.com/MEMORIAM.HTM

I totally agree........


Siddman

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i cant believe this discussion even exists.

SHOW ME THE GRADS........... then you SC people can talk with credibility.

the proof is in the product. SC has no product yet and may never have one.

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Its not the studetns fault...its the fault of the management they should let the students know of the problems they are going to face in the future rather them showing them the good stuff and hiding the bad one........


Siddman

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"Take this thread for instance, your telling me this is pertinent information for perspective students?"

Next time you quote what I say, try and quote the whole sentence.

What is the actual point of this thread? Have we not discussed all these issues before? And how do you know I don’t know MUCH about what happens after basic sciences? You know what they say about people who ASSume right? Anyway, it’s great that people are on this website helping future prospectives out. But for some reason it’s not always about that and people break off into these random tangents.