PLAB? - Page 6

stchrisrep · #51 (**permalink**) 11-09-2004, 05:21 PM

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Dear Mr. ***********

I can confirm that graduates of St Christopher's are currently eligible to take the PLAB test. As I mentioned on the phone, we are issuing written guidance to our reception and contact centre, I hope this will be out on Friday. However I have authorised them to start responding to individual enquiries as from tomorrow. We will also put some information on our website, this is likely to take a couple of weeks.

Yours sincerely

****** ******
Head of Applications

I just wanted to confirm that this letter is valid. It appears the GMC made a mistake last week and changed our status because some third party had misinformed them about us. Students from our college is still and has always been eligible for limited registration with the GMC.

http://www.stchris.edu/files/gmc_recognition.pdf

Picard · #52 (**permalink**) 11-09-2004, 06:32 PM

Congratulations.

Glad it work out for the best.

P

Soon2beAdoc · #53 (**permalink**) 11-09-2004, 11:35 PM

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Originally Posted by azskeptic

"I have also written the GMC and gotten a similar response. The full situation is as follows:

The GMC has now put on hold all applications by all the non-UK chartered medical schools in the UK while they review each one thouroughly and make a final decision. As the letter said, the results of the evaluations will be posted on the GMC website in a few short months. St. Christopher's welcomes these evaluations with open arms, since a thourough evaluation by the GMC would show the UK and the world that our school can stand up to the toughest standards. We eagerly look forward to their decision."

So what is it.....did they make a mistake or did they decide St. Chris is ok suddenly?

at GMC's website it still says the following:

http://www.gmc-uk.org/med_ed/default.htm

Approved Medical Schools in the UK

A list of schools offering medical degrees leading to a primary medical qualification and registration with the GMC is listed on our website. Sometimes we get queries about UK based schools, which are under the remit of an overseas university, for example Medical College London and St Christopher’s.

Azskeptic,

Where did it say that about St. Christopher’s? I find it quite amusing that people are so quick to post a bunch of drivel, but when the truth comes out no one has anything to say. I remember you also said that St. Joseph’s College in Maine wasn’t an accredited school or it was some kind of diploma mill. I think people shouldn’t waste their time posting unless they have solid ground to base their facts on. The article below is about MCL (Medical College of London). St. Christopher’s is not associated with them in any way whatsoever.

http://www.gmc-uk.org/med_ed/default.htm

Medical College London
We have received a number of calls about Medical College London (MCL) which is based at Medway Maritime Campus, 39 Sandling Way, Chatham, Kent, ME4 3AZ.
MCL, although based in the United Kingdom, is not able to award UK primary qualifications leading to registration with the General Medical Council because MCL is not listed in the Medical Act 1983. It is not a university in the European Union offering a primary European qualification recognised in the Medical Act. Its degrees will not lead to automatic registration with us.
Medical degrees which are awarded by an institution on the World Health Organisation (WHO)'s directory of medical schools enable the graduate to undertake certain other requirements. If these requirements (including the Professional Linguistics Assessment Board (PLAB) test amongst others) are completed successfully by an individual, this would normally lead to limited registration.
The Medical College London is not currently on the WHO directory. As matters currently stand, degrees awarded by the Medical College London will not lead to registration with us.
We are not aware of degrees from MCL being awarded by a WHO listed university. It has been alleged that degrees are not in fact awarded by MCL, but by the St Lucia College of Medicine and Health Sciences. The entry on the WHO directory (dated 31 December 2002) states that "A licence was granted to the following school to operate from 1 January 2001 to 31 December 2001 St Lucia College of Medicine and Health Sciences". The St Lucia College of Medicine and Health Sciences is not therefore, currently on the WHO List. This means that it would not automatically entitle the graduate holder of the St Lucia College of Medicine and Health Sciences degree to sit PLAB or satisfy certain other requirements leading to limited registration.
These are the UK universities whose degrees are recognised by the GMC.
The Department for Education and Skills are aware of certain claims made by Medical College London. They have stated "All institutions offering degree qualifications in the UK must be recognised. If they are not, they must make it clear that they are not offering British degrees….we have now decided to ask the local trading standards, which is responsible for enforcement, to investigate Medical College of London."
The GMC has jurisdiction to look into complaints against registered medical practitioners.

azskeptic · #54 (**permalink**) 11-09-2004, 11:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Soon2beAdoc

Quote:

Originally Posted by azskeptic

"I have also written the GMC and gotten a similar response. The full situation is as follows:

The GMC has now put on hold all applications by all the non-UK chartered medical schools in the UK while they review each one thouroughly and make a final decision. As the letter said, the results of the evaluations will be posted on the GMC website in a few short months. St. Christopher's welcomes these evaluations with open arms, since a thourough evaluation by the GMC would show the UK and the world that our school can stand up to the toughest standards. We eagerly look forward to their decision."

So what is it.....did they make a mistake or did they decide St. Chris is ok suddenly?

at GMC's website it still says the following:

http://www.gmc-uk.org/med_ed/default.htm

Approved Medical Schools in the UK

A list of schools offering medical degrees leading to a primary medical qualification and registration with the GMC is listed on our website. Sometimes we get queries about UK based schools, which are under the remit of an overseas university, for example Medical College London and St Christopher’s.

Azskeptic,

Where did it say that about St. Christopher’s? I find it quite amusing that people are so quick to post a bunch of drivel, but when the truth comes out no one has anything to say. I remember you also said that St. Joseph’s College in Maine wasn’t an accredited school or it was some kind of diploma mill. I think people shouldn’t waste their time posting unless they have solid ground to base their facts on. The article below is about MCL (Medical College of London). St. Christopher’s is not associated with them in any way whatsoever.

http://www.gmc-uk.org/med_ed/default.htm

Medical College London
We have received a number of calls about Medical College London (MCL) which is based at Medway Maritime Campus, 39 Sandling Way, Chatham, Kent, ME4 3AZ.
MCL, although based in the United Kingdom, is not able to award UK primary qualifications leading to registration with the General Medical Council because MCL is not listed in the Medical Act 1983. It is not a university in the European Union offering a primary European qualification recognised in the Medical Act. Its degrees will not lead to automatic registration with us.
Medical degrees which are awarded by an institution on the World Health Organisation (WHO)'s directory of medical schools enable the graduate to undertake certain other requirements. If these requirements (including the Professional Linguistics Assessment Board (PLAB) test amongst others) are completed successfully by an individual, this would normally lead to limited registration.
The Medical College London is not currently on the WHO directory. As matters currently stand, degrees awarded by the Medical College London will not lead to registration with us.
We are not aware of degrees from MCL being awarded by a WHO listed university. It has been alleged that degrees are not in fact awarded by MCL, but by the St Lucia College of Medicine and Health Sciences. The entry on the WHO directory (dated 31 December 2002) states that "A licence was granted to the following school to operate from 1 January 2001 to 31 December 2001 St Lucia College of Medicine and Health Sciences". The St Lucia College of Medicine and Health Sciences is not therefore, currently on the WHO List. This means that it would not automatically entitle the graduate holder of the St Lucia College of Medicine and Health Sciences degree to sit PLAB or satisfy certain other requirements leading to limited registration.
These are the UK universities whose degrees are recognised by the GMC.
The Department for Education and Skills are aware of certain claims made by Medical College London. They have stated "All institutions offering degree qualifications in the UK must be recognised. If they are not, they must make it clear that they are not offering British degrees….we have now decided to ask the local trading standards, which is responsible for enforcement, to investigate Medical College of London."
The GMC has jurisdiction to look into complaints against registered medical practitioners.

what I posted that shows MCL and ST. Chris in the same line is at

http://www.gmc-uk.org/med_ed/default.htm

bts4202 · #55 (**permalink**) 11-10-2004, 12:09 AM

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Originally Posted by azskeptic

what I posted that shows MCL and ST. Chris in the same line is at

http://www.gmc-uk.org/med_ed/default.htm

The same line? So what? SGU and Spartan were both mentioned in that Courant newspaper article... does that make them the same school? Furthermore, I have read posts on this website that put you right next to some very shady characters... does that make you the same as them? I certainly don't think so.

You seem to be the only one who is upset that St. Chris was fully vindicated in this situation. You have claimed that you are completely unbiased and that your sole motive is ensure that physicians entering the US workforce from foriegn schools have adequate training. If that is true, why would you be so unhappy that the GMC has looked into us fully and still allows us to take the PLAB and enter the UK physician workforce? You are still looking for something negative to say soo badly that you strech reason to its utmost limit. I think that exposes you for what you really are and how BIASED you really are.

azskeptic · #56 (**permalink**) 11-10-2004, 12:13 AM

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Originally Posted by bts4202

Quote:

Originally Posted by azskeptic

what I posted that shows MCL and ST. Chris in the same line is at

http://www.gmc-uk.org/med_ed/default.htm

The same line? So what? SGU and Spartan were both mentioned in that Courant newspaper article... does that make them the same school? Furthermore, I have read posts on this website that put you right next to some very shady characters... does that make you the same as them? I certainly don't think so.

You seem to be the only one who is upset that St. Chris was fully vindicated in this situation. You have claimed that you are completely unbiased and that your sole motive is ensure that physicians entering the US workforce from foriegn schools have adequate training. If that is true, why would you be so unhappy that the GMC has looked into us fully and still allows us to take the PLAB and enter the UK physician workforce? You are still looking for something negative to say soo badly that you strech reason to its utmost limit. I think that exposes you for what you really are and how BIASED you really are.

Not unhappy at all but this forum and yourself included has mislead students with information that turned out not to be true repeatedly. You find people skeptical about the information.

I am hopeful that St. Chris can take care of the charter problem i.e. problem defined as St. Chris is a Senegal school that is in the UK. It issues an MD from Senegal to people who don't attend school in Senegal. I am hopeful students can get licensed because students are the ones that suffer.

Tell us the truth and no one can fault you. Mislead people and it will be pointed out each time. That is what has happened here. FOr instance you told us that the GMC did this action because all non-UK schools wer ein this situation and then today you blame it on a 3rd party misleading the GMC? Which is it?

azskeptic

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