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Old 11-05-2004, 10:07 AM
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Quite a revelation.

My bet is if NY knows about this, we certainly won't meet won't pass inspection. If we can't even be licensed in the country where our campus is located, I highly doubt that they would approve of us.

I wonder if this will dramatically impact a graduates ability to get licensed? I would certainly think that it will.

Is the Managing Director/President/Dean of Basic Sciences/CEO going to hold a meeting with the students to give them an update on our situation? I think it is important that the student body be informed of this development, particularly the ones that wish to practice in the UK.

I guess I should send an e-mail to the Managing Director/CEO and remind them to take that letter down that they have framed in the Student Atrium that says we qualify for limited registration before some prospective student visiting the campus sees it and cries foul.
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Old 11-05-2004, 12:27 PM
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Quite a revelation.

My bet is if NY knows about this, we certainly won't meet won't pass inspection. If we can't even be licensed in the country where our campus is located, I highly doubt that they would approve of us.

I wonder if this will dramatically impact a graduates ability to get licensed? I would certainly think that it will.

Is the Managing Director/President/Dean of Basic Sciences/CEO going to hold a meeting with the students to give them an update on our situation? I think it is important that the student body be informed of this development, particularly the ones that wish to practice in the UK.

I guess I should send an e-mail to the Managing Director/CEO and remind them to take that letter down that they have framed in the Student Atrium that says we qualify for limited registration before some prospective student visiting the campus sees it and cries foul.
The thing is whether states law says 'ability to license where you study' or where you are chartered.
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I have also written the GMC and gotten a similar response. The full situation is as follows:

The GMC has now put on hold all applications by all the non-UK chartered medical schools in the UK while they review each one thouroughly and make a final decision. As the letter said, the results of the evaluations will be posted on the GMC website in a few short months. St. Christopher's welcomes these evaluations with open arms, since a thourough evaluation by the GMC would show the UK and the world that our school can stand up to the toughest standards. We eagerly look forward to their decision.
I agree that this is certainly possible. But this is also the best case scenario. I think it's only fair to consider the worst case scenario. And the worst case scenario could be that this is the first step to shut down all non-UK medical schools operating in UK without UK charter. Far fetched? No. Think about it, the fact that schools like SC operates in UK without a UK charter must annoy the heck out of established UK medical community... it's only human nature. When Ross tried to open a Wyomin campus, the US medical community went into an uproar and eventually forced Ross to quit (remember it was perfectly legal when Ross started exploring the Wyomin campus)... So, it's not too far fetch to think that the UK may follow a similar path. I'm not saying this is the case, but a reasonable person also need to consider this possibility.

I'm not trying to wish SC harm. But I think it's only fair that when you consider and hope for the best case scenario, you also need to be realistic and consider the worst case scenario. It's only fair to potential and current students... you don't want this to turn into another "we are good to go in 48 states" prediction...

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Incidentally, that outdated GMC letter is still on the SC website, and SC's official web still states SC grads are eligible for limited registration/PLAB -- Shouldn't these be taken down for now?
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what a joke

typical. this school always says to expect the best...nothing good yet has come to fruition...still no licensced grads far beyond the time we were all told to expect them...yet, they keep losing ground...a short list of lost perks of st chris:
affiliations with luton and cambridge, ability to sit for the plab, britain looking into validity of the school
relationship with the school in NJ
still not approved in all states

the student population has been growing based on empty promises...i feel bad for all the poor souls that have bought what you are selling there. hopefully it will work out, but all of these sleepless nights will add up.

go to a real school. stay away from this pit. even the owner is hedging his bet by investing in xavier. that alone tells me something....
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Quite a revelation.

I guess I should send an e-mail to the Managing Director/CEO and remind them to take that letter down that they have framed in the Student Atrium that says we qualify for limited registration before some prospective student visiting the campus sees it and cries foul.
The admin has no intentions of taking the letter down now.
It appears the GMC has been giving mixed responses in the past.
We're trying to find out what's going on.
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Re: no investment in xavier

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even the owner is hedging his bet by investing in xavier. that alone tells me something....
The director has said many times that they are NOT investing in Xavier.
Xavier had approached St. Chris for help in creating their program because Xavier was impressed with St. Chris's program. The college is doing consulting work for Xavier.
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Incidentally, that outdated GMC letter is still on the SC website, and SC's official web still states SC grads are eligible for limited registration/PLAB -- Shouldn't these be taken down for now?
Definetly need to send an e-mail about that to the Admin, someone will definetly cry foul if that letter is still up on the site...
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Re: mixed responses

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Quite a revelation.

I guess I should send an e-mail to the Managing Director/CEO and remind them to take that letter down that they have framed in the Student Atrium that says we qualify for limited registration before some prospective student visiting the campus sees it and cries foul.
The admin has no intentions of taking the letter down now.
It appears the GMC has been giving mixed responses in the past.
We're trying to find out what's going on.
Despite the GMC's "mixed" responses in the past, they seem quite clear now. I certainly hope the admin is taking a calculated risk rather than just a foolish one.
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Old 11-06-2004, 06:42 PM
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The admin has no intentions of taking the letter down now.
It appears the GMC has been giving mixed responses in the past.
We're trying to find out what's going on.
How much more clear can GMC be? Are you saying that any SC grads can go and register for PLAB tomorrow? If not, posting of the letter is a FRAUD! Period! Typical of SC admin. The responsible thing to do now is to take down the letter. You can repost it when AND IF (A big IF) GMC makes a decision favorable to SC.

I think the major reason of keeping the letter up has to do with the NY visit. SC is still trying to fool others into thinking all is well in UK. NY law is very clear, if SC grads are not eligible for licensure in UK, it's not eligible for NY state approval. Well, NY ain't stupid.

I will forward a copy of this thread to both GMC and to NY state medical board to inform them of SC's apparent attempt at fraudulent activities... directly from the mouth of "official student representative." Oh, and don't bother trying to delete/modify the posts -- I've saved it already.

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