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but the fact remains that this school is still operating in London. It is still turning out graduates that get top residencies, like TAFKA did, and it's still a very good alternative to sweating it out on a bug-infested Hurricane prone island in the Caribbean.
If I need to go foreign, which hopefull I won't when my contacts pull some strings, but whatever, I'd much rather go to school in England than a place like st kitts or Dominica!
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but the fact remains that this school is still operating in London. It is still turning out graduates that get top residencies, like TAFKA did, and it's still a very good alternative to sweating it out on a bug-infested Hurricane prone island in the Caribbean.
If I need to go foreign, which hopefull I won't when my contacts pull some strings, but whatever, I'd much rather go to school in England than a place like st kitts or Dominica!

top residencies are tough to get for US grads, they are tougher to get for us making competitive matches anomalies rather than the norm. if you want a highly competitive residency like derm ortho opthto plastics then foreign schools will likely not get you there. for competitive residencies like ER, rads, surgery a foreign school may get you there with great board scores and for obgyn, im, fp, peds, psych then a foreign school is a good alternative to reaching your goals

as for going to a 'brittish' school that will only impress your friends and people who don;t really matter in your carreer. those who can make or break your professional development either keep up with what is going on and know the schools that have track records or they could care less lump us all in the same pile and throw the applications out so telling a PD at an interview that you went to SC iba mar Diop in england will sound just as stupid as the interviewee who said he went to ross university in new york and was asked follow up questions on how dominica was...quite funny actually

SC was a disaster and a school that should have been avoided at all costs. since the new management took over it seems like they are hading in a much better direction and may turn the corner and be a place to look at after failing to get in schools with long track records. when SC gets state approvals it will ve a very very good place to attend because living in england sounds much nicer than living on any of our islands but until then it should remain very low on the list of people with options to attend other schools

so first look at US MD/DO schools then i would look at "real" foreign schools that take US students in israel, ireland, australia then the schols with cali approval, then schools with new york, then reasses my qualifications and try again from the top and if all else fails start down further in the list

also tafkas residency is competitive and i know i don't have the scores for it but by no means is it the be all and end all. it is a competitive residency at a community hospital and very doable with great board scores...definitely within reach, just look at match lists from other schools for rads, er, surgery.

not trying to negate the accomplishement but when you are a pre med things are not in good perspective from down there...like the fact that living in england for 2 years seems to stand out more to you than things that really matter and will affect your 40 years in practice

good luck man being post call sucks..slept during the day now i can't sleep
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but the fact remains that this school is still operating in London. It is still turning out graduates that get top residencies, like TAFKA did, and it's still a very good alternative to sweating it out on a bug-infested Hurricane prone island in the Caribbean.
If I need to go foreign, which hopefull I won't when my contacts pull some strings, but whatever, I'd much rather go to school in England than a place like st kitts or Dominica!
One or two anecdotal reports of good residencies doesn't translate into a safe bet for you. Better to have memories of lots of mosquito bites, than have an MD you can't use.

TAFKA did exceedingly well on all three steps on the boards, and was published. This is less a reflection of the quality of education, and more an indicator that he worked very hard, and has a lot of baseline smarts. This is like a weight loss commercial. There should be a disclaimer "Results are not typical"

It does seem that SCIMD is on the right track, but you can't ignore the problems they have had. Nobody should recommend a school that hasn't proven itself again and again. SCIMD's problems are far too recent to say this school has a good track record. It is one to watch. If it succeeds, the idea is great. A school chartered in one country holding classes in a country that is far nicer to live in. G
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One or two anecdotal reports of good residencies doesn't translate into a safe bet for you. Better to have memories of lots of mosquito bites, than have an MD you can't use.

TAFKA did exceedingly well on all three steps on the boards, and was published. This is less a reflection of the quality of education, and more an indicator that he worked very hard, and has a lot of baseline smarts. This is like a weight loss commercial. There should be a disclaimer "Results are not typical"

It does seem that SCIMD is on the right track, but you can't ignore the problems they have had. Nobody should recommend a school that hasn't proven itself again and again. SCIMD's problems are far too recent to say this school has a good track record. It is one to watch. If it succeeds, the idea is great. A school chartered in one country holding classes in a country that is far nicer to live in. G

that's why I'm working the old boys network , bro. gotta get that nepotism factor so I don't have to be foreign at all. gotta get a few buldings named after the fam. then it's all good.

otherwise I'll be looking at a British medical school like scidmark, or whatever it's called.
one thing is for sure, I won't be at a school with the word Carribean in the name.

What was that guy thinking when he called the school american university of the caribbean.. helloooo, caribbean means joke to most people . best to conceal it not announce it at every opportunity.
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that's why I'm working the old boys network , bro. gotta get that nepotism factor so I don't have to be foreign at all. gotta get a few buldings named after the fam. then it's all good.

otherwise I'll be looking at a British medical school like scidmark, or whatever it's called.
one thing is for sure, I won't be at a school with the word Carribean in the name.

What was that guy thinking when he called the school american university of the caribbean.. helloooo, caribbean means joke to most people . best to conceal it not announce it at every opportunity.
SCIMD isn't a British Med school. It is a Senegalese med school operating on British soil. I have had no problems with my Diploma that has "Caribbean" displayed prominently on it. No probs with licensure, residency, job etc. That's what pays the bills, Bro.
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but the fact remains that this school is still operating in London. It is still turning out graduates that get top residencies, like TAFKA did, and it's still a very good alternative to sweating it out on a bug-infested Hurricane prone island in the Caribbean.
If I need to go foreign, which hopefull I won't when my contacts pull some strings, but whatever, I'd much rather go to school in England than a place like st kitts or Dominica!
i think you really need to worry less about the party life at these places and brush up on what you should look for in a school in terms of the education and opportunities that come from it. For instance, using anecdotal evidence to make the claim a school is a top choice. Also, you need to learn what makes for a "top residency". premeds and even med students are notoriously bad about understanding this. They think things like a name from a well-known ungrad university translates into any of their given residency programs being "top".

I should add, its good for you to look at SC and these other places. You may not get into a place like sgu and doing the leg work for all sorts of places is a good idea. but you need to know what really to look for. because even if YOU continue to think that london= an "english medical school" every program director looking at your ERAS app will know the difference.


And keep in mind, no amount of contacts will be getting you the competitive residency you want if you dont have an excellent reputation in your med school years. Oh and becareful bro. If you dont learn these thing you're in danger of being dependent upon connections for the rest of your career because you'll have nothing personally to offer.
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Sorry, but this forum is for discussion of St. Christopher, which I am debating is still as far as I am concerned is a British medical school
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SCIMD isn't a British Med school. It is a Senegalese med school operating on British soil. I have had no problems with my Diploma that has "Caribbean" displayed prominently on it. No probs with licensure, residency, job etc. That's what pays the bills, Bro.

it might not be a british medical school officially, but it is in terms of location and after all, if I can get a hot and easy residency like TAFKA where I will be playing lots of golf, then who cares where the charter is from.

what matters to me is the MD, the fun and ease of school and the prestige of a great life, making great coin, having some arm candy, a hot car, and phat crib. All I'm working for is the MD at this point since the rest is already in place but I want the MD since nobody in the fam has one. they just trade on the market and own things. BORING

I would remind all of you that I am like the swordsman in "A princess Bride" So far I am fighting with my left hand. I am ready to make the switch whenever I need to. I can party. I can play. I can get my groove on and it's all good.
It appears many are very jealous.
This is nothing new. My family has money. I have had a sheltered life and have never had to worry about these things. I would nevef bag on anybody the way I get bagged on. Lots of haters out here.
That's all good. Good luck to all.
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top residencies are tough to get for US grads, they are tougher to get for us making competitive matches anomalies rather than the norm. if you want a highly competitive residency like derm ortho opthto plastics then foreign schools will likely not get you there. for competitive residencies like ER, rads, surgery a foreign school may get you there with great board scores and for obgyn, im, fp, peds, psych then a foreign school is a good alternative to reaching your goals

so first look at US MD/DO schools then i would look at "real" foreign schools that take US students in israel, ireland, australia then the schols with cali approval, then schools with new york, then reasses my qualifications and try again from the top and if all else fails start down further in the list

also tafkas residency is competitive and i know i don't have the scores for it but by no means is it the be all and end all. it is a competitive residency at a community hospital and very doable with great board scores...definitely within reach, just look at match lists from other schools for rads, er, surgery.

not trying to negate the accomplishement but when you are a pre med things are not in good perspective from down there...like the fact that living in england for 2 years seems to stand out more to you than things that really matter and will affect your 40 years in practice

good luck man being post call sucks..slept during the day now i can't sleep
Good pragmatic advice. I am somewhat familiar with Tafka and his residency program. The hospital is large and well funded in a affluent area and one of the most preferred in that area, out of a region of many hospitals. It should also be noted that Tafka (like other posters said, correctly) more probably arrived due to his stellar board scores and his laser beam like focus on medicine and his career. I might even suggest that he made it as far as he has, inspite of any perceived negatives that may be attached to his medical school affiliation.

You should be looking elsewhere for a good medical school choice - at this point. The priority list noted above by AUCMD2006 is a good one to use.

And as for your family connections, your family's monetary situation, strings being pulled, nepotism "the fun and ease of school and the prestige of a great life, making great coin, having some arm candy, a hot car, and phat crib" etc. Best if you keep those as private thoughts, if it all.

Voicing these things make you seem a whole lot less credible in the eyes of others, who are likely to question your maturity level and ability to make good judgements etc. All crucial in the medical field! (I mention this not to be critical, just to give you some helpful feedback on how an impartial observer might view you).

Good luck on your decision making. Avail yourself of the good advice noted by the older posters who have been where you are now, and have learned some lessons along the way.

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