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Old 11-12-2007, 10:28 PM
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nah, just reporting what I find. if there are positive articles post them also. congrats on hot residency to tafka. azskeptic

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wow, that's pretty depressing to think that a person can graduate and not be allowed to work.
but who needs arkansas. Other than my main man Clinton, nothing good ever came out of arkansas ( that and John Daly went to undergrad there at the U)

hey azskeptic, I was reading of your battles on wikipedia with a person called pareleluni and and all of his sock puppets like azrealist ( over this this particular school )
that was awesome but is there any chance that you are biased against this school?

I mean TAFKA is in a red hot residency at a red hot program so SCIDMAR can't be a ll bad right, if you are only banned in arkansas?
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My congrats as well on your continued success! Keep up the good work! You're obviously the type of person that can overcome adversity. I too have heard from reliable sources that St. Chris had taken out all the trash, and is now being operated soley by the Senegalese (stateside as well) and that issues are quietly and methodically being taken care of one at a time. Thats really awesome for the SCIMD students and graduates. I wish you all clear skies from now on! God knows you deserve it! Best of luck.
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Don't believe anything TAFKA is saying. As a current student things are just as screwed up at St. Chris as they have always been. This should be obvious based on the fact that they don't have a DfES listing for the school in the UK. Without this they can't get visas for their students or work permits for their professors in the UK. The only way St. Chris students can stay in the UK is if they are declaring themselves as travelers and get a travel visa, but it is against the law in the UK to be a student and declare yourself as a traveler to get a visa.

The school is still listed on multiple states banned schools rosters, it has no loans whatsoever for its student, and has yet to be approved by any states that has a formal approval process (NY, FL, CA, etc...), all good indicators that things are not going well. The last batch fo students seeking residency didn't have much luck (considering SCIMD's reputation) and most had to scramble (and even that wasn't successful for most).

Also consider that the Senegal operations consist of 2 individuals (1 secretary and 1 dean), the US operations consist of 3 people (1 dean and 2 secretaries), and the UK operations a grand total of 7 (1 dean/professor, 5 professors, 1 secretary).

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yes but the school must be good if it's still operating in England.

and besides TAFKA got a great residency so the school surely is OK.

stick it out bro. it will all work out
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Don't believe anything TAFKA is saying. As a current student things are just as screwed up at St. Chris as they have always been. This should be obvious based on the fact that they don't have a DfES listing for the school in the UK. Without this they can't get visas for their students or work permits for their professors in the UK. The only way St. Chris students can stay in the UK is if they are declaring themselves as travelers and get a travel visa, but it is against the law in the UK to be a student and declare yourself as a traveler to get a visa.

The school is still listed on multiple states banned schools rosters, it has no loans whatsoever for its student, and has yet to be approved by any states that has a formal approval process (NY, FL, CA, etc...), all good indicators that things are not going well. The last batch fo students seeking residency didn't have much luck (considering SCIMD's reputation) and most had to scramble (and even that wasn't successful for most).

Also consider that the Senegal operations consist of 2 individuals (1 secretary and 1 dean), the US operations consist of 3 people (1 dean and 2 secretaries), and the UK operations a grand total of 7 (1 dean/professor, 5 professors, 1 secretary).
Hmmmm...Something smells, shall we say...unusual! While I can't refute much of your information, I can add a few things: I met several residents/graduates while doing rotations and they were some of the best in terms of foundation knowledge and taking the time to teach students and were pleasant people. I also know of SCIMD students who matched this past year and the year before and only two failed to match that I am aware of: One for the reason he didn't cast a wide enough net so to speak and too narrowly limited himself in terms of state and programs, and the other person is a unknown.

I can also say that the school, to their credit, has been turning down new students and is not currently recruiting new students, until certain things get worked out like the DFES and other issues - as they don't want to inadvertently cause harm to any students. This is a refreshing stance in the world of the offshore schools!

I agree with you on at least one point - No state recognition is a bad thing and should lead people to look elsewhere for the time being - the point of the original posts of this thread, was that things were slowly turning around for the school and its graduates (even if not at the speed you would prefer).

Now, having said the above, perhaps you can tell us of the other names you use on this forum, eh? (as a long time observer, but infrequent poster - I have some ideas)

All of a sudden, an expert appears, a "current student", out of nowhere, apparently with an axe to grind AND this is your very first post!!!??? You're a newbie that is just too hard to believe...and maybe even to give credence to.

As the disgruntled and "current student" you are I would suggest you look into the following schools for transfer (all have NY or Cali. approval or both) as other SCIMD students have done who were not happy: Ross, AUA, St. Matthews, MUA Nevis, AUC, St. Georges, SABA

Oh, and in my humble opinion, you have to be a real freak, not to hope, wish and pray these guys have some good success after what they have been through!

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I hope things are improving. I have worked with a couple of St. Chris' students on rotations and they have all been good students. I worked with a 1st year resident from St. Chris' also and she was really sharp. It's too bad quality students are getting screwed around by the school it appears. I do have to say that none of them had good things to say about the school admin, especially the resident.
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I do have to say that none of them had good things to say about the school admin, especially the resident.
I have good things to say about both the new and old admin... the old ones saw to it that we got a solid education, and the new ones are doing their best to rebuild slowly but surely (i wasn't aware that they are turning down applicants, but i applaud that they are prioritizing a solid future ahead of a shaky present)... some of you will certainly bristle at the notion of defending the administrators (particularly the former administrators), but, like everything else in life, this wasn't a clear cut issue with good guys and bad guys... it involved regular people who were doing both good and bad things... but given the choice, i'd rather be a strong resident from a weak medical college than a weak resident from a strong medical college.
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yes but the school must be good if it's still operating in England.

and besides TAFKA got a great residency so the school surely is OK.

stick it out bro. it will all work out
not really, its operating as a business not a college in england so it has no checks and balances that brittish med schools have. not that our carib schools have checks and balances but that is what the state approvals come in handy

a few students getting a good residency is also not indicative of a Ok school just that he is either very bright, he studied for the boards for 2 years..hehe or that there is a solid education. what measures an OK school in offshore schools are track record, longstanding residency placement in wide variety of fields not just a diamong here and there, state approvals that don't limit where you work or that you can at least throw in the face of burocrats at the licensing board
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Let's not forget that the school has completely changed its administration/leadership 3 times in the last two years, as well as moving it's UK and US offices 3 times in conjunction with the new administrations (and each time the UK facilities have moved it has been into a smaller and more rundown building than the previous one).

Also that its first administration went into legal receivership and some students are still having trouble getting records because the current st. chris administration doesnt want to take responsibility. As well as the facts that all basic science labs (histo, neuro, etc) are done in conjunction with a 4 year college in the UK now and not at a proper medical college such as was done before and there is absolutely no clinical experience during the basic sciences now so students will be throughly unprepared for clerkships
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Let's not forget that the school has completely changed its administration/leadership 3 times in the last two years, as well as moving it's UK and US offices 3 times in conjunction with the new administrations (and each time the UK facilities have moved it has been into a smaller and more rundown building than the previous one).

Also that its first administration went into legal receivership and some students are still having trouble getting records because the current st. chris administration doesnt want to take responsibility. As well as the facts that all basic science labs (histo, neuro, etc) are done in conjunction with a 4 year college in the UK now and not at a proper medical college such as was done before and there is absolutely no clinical experience during the basic sciences now so students will be throughly unprepared for clerkships
So you just got banned, and you started another account?

Another expert just appears with an axe to grind?! Congrats on your "first post" here on VMD. A real hearty welcome (back!)
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