hopefully you'll feel better tomorrow.

Azrealist, I have called Oregon. I'd bet you and I talked to the same lady. Overall I was impressed because she was extremely professional. I think at the same time I was making calls -- BTS was as well. And that might be the problem you are having with Oregon. The old cheerleaders did a lot of damage. Google their names and read what they posted on student forums all over the web. I don't think they realized that their spinning was finding it's way back to Oregon and the GMC. But I don't see how? It's pretty stupid to lie like that on public forums. Now, people are very nervous about the school. When students speak they wonder....is it true or some story they've been fed? But hopefully now that all the old players are gone people will give you guys a second chance. It might take a while because that cheerleader nonsense went on for years but given time and a lot of hard work you'll earn people's trust. You are on the right track and doing all the right things. That's why I feel we should all get behind you guys now. You need all the encouragement you can get.

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Oooh! that's a lot of fun! Have you had the two-for-one fun package yet where you're trying to decide whether it's more sanitary to puke on the floor or crap on the floor? Hope you feel better G.

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both the lady and alvin were very polite and professional in each communications... they just led no where... close one door.. they open 5 more... just to selectively close and re-open at almost random....

I think Teratos is right about Oregon. Just work hard and lay low. Let them approach you in a few years after rec'ing tons of calls from students in Oregon wanting to go to St. Chris and come home and practice in Oregon.

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sadly that can't be done... several states have picked up the "oregon list"... and there is word that others may follow... so oregon has become a high priority.

The main problem with oregon is that they don't review any medical schools...
to quote alvin "since we don't have the resources to evaluate schools ourselves we must rely on outside evalutations"... so the school has gotten one of those outside gov't agencies to evaluate them... once the reccomendations are finished and the accreditation is complete... oregon will be approached from all angles...

I do think the old cheerleaders did an awful lot of damage. I would venture to say it was their constant, and often transparently false "rah, rah, rah" that brought an enormous amount of negative attention to the school. The arrogant delievery made a lot of people want to see the school fail. I am glad to see the voices here are more reasonable. If the truth is told about the good and the bad, then there is nothing to complain about at the end of the day. I post because I want people to benefit from my experience. When I was applying, Al Gore had only recently invented the internet, and there weren't resources like this. I think we have a responsibility to provide the most accurate information possible to those just beginning to consider this route. G

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I know I can be long winded - sorry. I think you missed my questions here. What happened to the other building?

Teratos, I agree with you. I can tell you from my experience here on Valuemd that it feels much better to build something up than to tear something down. I knew the cheerleaders and the old administrators had to be brought down and the truth be told about them but it sure did make me feel icky being a part of it. Every day when I'd log onto this site to debate with them I'd get a sick feeling in my stomach and a horrible headache. I hated it. This is much nicer. It's starting to look like the story will have a happy ending and I'm glad.

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i'm not sure what happened to the other buildings... but they were leased also... so i'm assuming that the lease just expired and who knows from there.. plus MUAB moved to london... and from what i hear they are actually still holding classes there this semester... not sure how with no DfES and a smaller student body than what we have... and london is even more rediculously expensive than luton...

There has been talk about buildings on our internal forum lately and from what the students in luton say is that those old buildings are still vacant... but i can't say forsure... there was 2 building being used before.. one for premed, and one for med... they were supposed to be working on a building for labs, and research... (they were planning a PhD program)... and get actually research going for the NY and cali site visits...

but with the current size of the program.. i don't think there is need or plans for a bigger or second building, or even research for a while at least

If you had a pre-med program does that mean students can go straight to St. Chris after high school or do they still need to have a four year degree?

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there is a pre-med program... you don't need a 4 year degree to get into med school.. you just need to make the list of required courses and hours in class that licensure boards require...

it was designed to emulate the 6 year degree that is done in europe... this was originally set up because we had alot of interest from UK students at one point... the UK med school system is just as tough to get in as the US or Canada.. and SC offered an alternative...

my personal opinion... and the opinion of most of the other students at SC ... you'd be nuts to go straight into the premed ....

1- Uni/college in Can and US... best times of your life for partying... plus the experience and growth is priceless --> the worst students i have to say that came through SC were the premeds who went through to the MD... not because they were academically poor..(some were actually really good) but because they were very immature.. and didn't get the reality check that university gives you... and they show up to rotations with the hat cranked sideways and the "YO YO YO" attitude... that kinda crap only lasts about a month in real university before you piss someone off and get a beating...

2- most importantly EVERYONE should at least try the "traditional" route of getting into a canadian or US med school... there isn't a foreign school out there that can say they are equal to a US or canadian school with regards to acceptance... and i don't care if you're eligible for licensure in every state... if you're not a US/Can grad you're still looked down on no matter what school you came from

so do i recommend the 6 year program.... if we were still able to write the PLAB... then maybe i would to EU or UK students who didn't get into an officially accredited EU or UK school... would i recomend the 6 year program to others? yes because the school needs the money and students, and these kids will probably get weeded out eventually anyway... but more NO because everyone... EVERYONE should at least take a shot at a US or can med school