I love the way this discussion is evolving, very civilized and respectful. Congratulations!

Now on the GMC, correct me if I am mistaken, aren't SC grads from the program in Senegal elegible to sit for the PLAB? I don't think there shoud be any problems there, you go to Senegal, you do your studies there, etc.

Also notice on the GMC website how they consider on a case by case graduates from now defunct schools,(http://www.gmc-uk.org/doctors/join_t...ifications.asp) like 3 schools they mentioned from the Dominican Republic, even Grace is mentioned.

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well since this whole mess first came up... they are not accepting people from the senegal program either...

They have asked both programs be evaluated by outside UK agencies or the equivalent in senegal before accepting either program... (but if the UK program gets it then the senegal program will to)

I know the UK program has been evaluated recently by this gov't agency (not the GMC). They made a list of things that needed to be changed before approval from this agency was given... and the school was given a time frame to do it

Some were stupid things other more legit
for example...
1- the bathrooms and classrooms needed to be repainted... (maybe they didn't like the color.. who knows...
2- The library had to have x number of active subscriptions to medical journals ( i don't know what the number is but we didn't have it)
3- something or other that each floor of the current building needed to be able to be locked and seperated from other floors.. (ie every door everywhere needed locks)
etc.. etc...

so things along those lines... nothing was really more than just annoying little things that will take some time (the UK workers don't get things done quickly at all) and money to have finished...

all and all it will just be a big chunk of money that needs to be put in for upgrades before the green light from this agency is given so that we can approach the GMC again...

But it would seem like the speed of light compared to the Caribbean workers.

Anyway, congrats on getting SC turned around. I hope it continues to improve for you guys. Although several posters in this forum seemed to take glee in the downfall, I truly wanted (and still want) the school to be a success for the students. Hopefully in a few years you can come back and tell the naysayers that you thrived in spite of their efforts to destroy your school and your lives.

Good luck to all of you.

I'm almost finished being mad at you.

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Well thank you !!! Made my day

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...."Beyond jealosy and betrayal; beyond hate and desire; beyond pain and death; lies the ultimate revelation; the final choice; the end; because the fate of destruction is also the joy of rebirth" Neon Genesis Evangelion

are you guys renting the building in Luton or do you own it? Seems like if you are renting the owners might agree to paint the bathrooms and do some renovations for you if you explain the situation. Some landlords however simply don't care. The library has been an issue for a long time. People have complained about it here on Valuemd. So, it's actually good that you are addressing it but I'm sure medical journals aren't cheap. Nothing is now days. The fact that you have been given a list and a chance to make improvements is a very good sign.

as of now the buildings are being rented...

The cost to buy anything in the UK is so over the top its unreal... even prices to rent is rediculous...

just to compare... if you happen to be renting apartments in a city in the US.. you know that finding a place for ~400-500/month.. you're probably living in a less than desirable area (aka ghetto)... well that same crappy apartment in the UK would cost you 400-500pounds... so with an almost 1:2 exchange.. you're paying almost 1000us for the same run down place...

Right before i left luton when the school was almost at the height of it cash flow income (which was fairly significant as everyone see's from the court papers) is when they even started thinking of buying their own place.. and from what everyone knows of PL and the lies he used to tell ... in order for him to even think of buying a place.. means they have millions just falling out of his cheap pockets...

bottom line... no one buys in the UK... at least not as a buisness that is still running on a loss

I’ve heard that from other friends too. England is very expensive. Renting is smart. Most business owners just lease office space anyway. The landlord might help with the improvements probably not. Some people just want your $$$ and take very little pride in what they are providing.

What happened to the other building? Remember there were two St. Chris’s for a while. The real one with the original charter holders and L.’s new chartered one. He shut down after a few months so were you guys able to get the building back or any of the equipment? Is it sitting empty or has it been rented or sold? The lease must have been under his name.

Now, that you guys have won/settled in court and he has left England maybe you can send the court docs to Oregon and get their website updated. The info is old and incorrect. It still says that the school merged with another college and the ownership is under dispute which isn’t true.

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Aren't there are lot of cases still pending? Probably best to wait until there is nothing related to SC on any docket anywhere, and then try to clear the air with Oregon. You don't need anything that will raise suspicion. You know they are looking for anything they can to use against you. G

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