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Old 01-11-2004, 10:10 AM
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Who is he/she? Grad? Student?
I've only been reading the St. Chris forum for the last couple months.
Judging by his recent posts only, doesn't seem like a very friendly guy/gal.

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I'm the original moderator who started this room.
Did you read the archives?

He's the most friendly and most knowledgeable person about the school!

I really don't have time to play games with immature posters.
There is absolutely nothing wrong with the school.

If you want to know more about the school, please email me via ValueMD. Please don't send me PMs. I don't visit the forums often anymore.
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Old 01-11-2004, 10:55 AM
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Hey, I'm not playing any games. I'm not sure if your message implied that I was sending you PM's or if you just requested for me to not send you PM's in general, but either way I didn't send you any personal messages. I was just curious who you were.
Also, BTS attributed a quote to me just a couple posts above that wasn't mine, not sure if that was a mistake or if he thinks I'm someone else?
I'm a potential student for the upcoming class and am hoping to visit the school sometime soon.
Goodluck with your studies,
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Oh drzed, sorry, I knew that quote wasn't yours. I quess I shifted gears in the post without making it clear enough. I will edit it.
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Old 01-11-2004, 12:14 PM
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Just a quick lesson for you... everyone who says something positive about SC is not a "promoter" and everyone who says something negative is not a "truthfinder". The truth is, as always, somewhere in the middle.
That "somewhere in the middle," is what is difficult for you and mtt. A person who cares this much about the school or cares this much about prospective students should provide both sides of the information. Instead, as we have seen in the past summer and elsewhere, that is opposite. A person who actually cares about prospectives students and the future of their school doesn't only provide one-sided information.
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Old 01-11-2004, 12:45 PM
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Just a quick lesson for you... everyone who says something positive about SC is not a "promoter" and everyone who says something negative is not a "truthfinder". The truth is, as always, somewhere in the middle.
That "somewhere in the middle," is what is difficult for you and mtt. A person who cares this much about the school or cares this much about prospective students should provide both sides of the information. Instead, as we have seen in the past summer and elsewhere, that is opposite. A person who actually cares about prospectives students and the future of their school doesn't only provide one-sided information.
taxidriver, while i agree with what ur saying, dont u think this should apply to both sides? seems like a double standard to tell the "promoters" to provide more balance, but leave the "bashers" alone with their one-sided negative posts

i think this concept should be applied to both sides so that the prospectives get the most objective and balanced information available. unfortunately, this forum seems to have "promoters" who promote and "bashers" who bash. although they balance each other out, neither is completely objective and the prospectives suffer as a result. but dont try to pin this solely on the "promoters" coz the "bashers" are just as much to blame.

with that being said, this forum has seen much more peace and balance lately which has made the info shared more useful for prospectives. hopefully that trend will continue.

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taxidriver, while i agree with what ur saying, dont u think this should apply to both sides? seems like a double standard to tell the "promoters" to provide more balance, but leave the "bashers" alone with their one-sided negative posts
Understable. But do many of these "bashers" care about their school? Many people go through with school programs without actually caring for their school. bts and mtt, on the other hand, seem like they care about the school so it is their responsibility to provide both sides of information. You be a mod because it is your choice. Mods shouldn't be one-sided -I haven't seen this one-sidedness with the AUC, Ross and SGU mods.
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that is the first thing I have heard in 3 days since returning here that is at least, reasonable, even from you. It seems like agenda's are the rule of thumb these days and SC is the target of the rule.

Az...anyone got his qualifications on what makes him such a world renowned expert on all things medical education? I mean the man spends more time researching school officials than running his business and getting much needed therapy. He is as qualified to evaluate schools as I am to recommend the latter. However, he seems to get mroe leeway than BTS or MTT. Frankly, that is my frustration.

BTW, is there any rule which also says you should let everyone know which school you are a recruiter for as well? I mean, if you act in an official capacity for your former medical education institution, should you also not be required to disclose that you are a recruiter with biased interests in play for their benefit and to the detriment of all others?
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taxidriver, while i agree with what ur saying, dont u think this should apply to both sides? seems like a double standard to tell the "promoters" to provide more balance, but leave the "bashers" alone with their one-sided negative posts
Understable. But do many of these "bashers" care about their school? Many people go through with school programs without actually caring for their school. bts and mtt, on the other hand, seem like they care about the school so it is their responsibility to provide both sides of information. You be a mod because it is your choice. Mods shouldn't be one-sided -I haven't seen this one-sidedness with the AUC, Ross and SGU mods.
since the "bashers" dont usually go to st chris, i cant really answer that question about if they care about their school. and yes, in most schools many ppl go thru their programs without caring for their schools. but at st chris for some reason, the students actually seem to break this rule by caring for their school more often than not. i guess that pisses off others who arent so happy with their own schools, or maybe ppl r just suspicious about all the happiness, but thats just speculation on my part. i really dont know why ppl who dont go to sc bash it so much while ppl who attend promote it so much

ur right, mods shouldnt be one sided, but theyre entitled to their own opinions. if they happen to love or hate their school, i dont fault them for sharing that view. but i would have a big problem if it got in the way of their duties as a mod here. but i dont think thats the case especially since so many negative posts have been shown.

btw, mtt is no longer a mod, so i assume he's not included in this discussion. unless u mean his posts back when he was a mod?

as far as other schools mods, they also share their opinions. an example is the ross forum mod which lots have said is very one sided. but i dont fault him for that either coz he doesnt let his views get in the way of his mod duties. he happens to be a great mod even though i might not agree with all his views. same goes for bts. i might not always agree with his views, but i think he's doing a great job as a mod.

dont get me wrong, i think one sided posts from either side is wrong. but it has nothing to do with someone being or not being a mod (so long as it doesnt interfere with their duties). sorry, but i just cant agree with ur view that the "promoters" (mod in this case) needs to be balanced but the "bashers" dont. the best would be if everyone was balanced period. but at the very least, u should uphold both sides to the same standards. just my humble opinion.

peace
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Old 01-11-2004, 04:14 PM
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I have seen negative points from mods from other schools, but not this one. And the spreading of misinformation, half-truths and keeping important things secret makes it worse. By saying what you wrote above, you are saying it is ok to continue these advertisements. Fine, then it is okay for us to keep pointing out that only positives of the school are being spread.
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that is the first thing I have heard in 3 days since returning here that is at least, reasonable, even from you. It seems like agenda's are the rule of thumb these days and SC is the target of the rule.

Az...anyone got his qualifications on what makes him such a world renowned expert on all things medical education? I mean the man spends more time researching school officials than running his business and getting much needed therapy. He is as qualified to evaluate schools as I am to recommend the latter. However, he seems to get mroe leeway than BTS or MTT. Frankly, that is my frustration.

BTW, is there any rule which also says you should let everyone know which school you are a recruiter for as well? I mean, if you act in an official capacity for your former medical education institution, should you also not be required to disclose that you are a recruiter with biased interests in play for their benefit and to the detriment of all others?
another personal attack.......from futurphysician
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