Thread: Lies

I came to St. Chris because, from another medical schoo, because it was a tri sem program and offered clinical exposure in the United States. I met with Mr……F and…..Dr….L in my home town and they really convinced me about the school. Dr…..L gave a presentation in my home town stating that in 2007 or 2008 they would be fully accredited in the UK and that students would not even have to sit the PLAB????? He also stated that they were in the process of eventually getting approval in Cali, and Tex???????? I don’t know if he was tired from his flight and the only thing his toung could flap out was a bunch of lies, but he sure did do a good job of making a fool of me. I actually even had the opportunity to talk to Dr…L..for along time after his presentation…He told me that the school also had an affiliation with John Hop??????/ So what I would like to ask/state to the St. Chris “allies” is this:
a) Let alone getting fully accredited in the UK, we don’t even have the right to sit the PLAB
b) Cali and Tex?…it would be good if we can just get ECFMG back first
c) John Hop? I don’t even know what to say about that one….you pro “St. Chris” guys tell me

I am not trying to degrade St. Chirs, I was really excited to attend the school and was looking forward to life in England. But I really feel as if I was lied to and cheated, like that is a whole lot of ** to throw out of ones mouth, I think at this point his mouth is so dirty from the lies that, not even extra strength Colgate will clean it.. Dr….L…also walked around to our class rooms, informing students about the school and whatever else, and the question was raised to why we lost the Cleveland Clinic? Dr…L’s response was “it has nothing to do with the GMC”…alright fine…so I called Mr…..F…in new jersey his response was.. “As soon as the GMC issue is resolved, they said we could have the clinic back”…ummm o.k so who Is right? And who is wrong? Way too keep your stories straight guys, good JOB. All I can say is, the teachers at St. Chris are good, most of the faculty is good also. Overall the school WOULD have been good, but if the foundation of the school is built on lies, then the consequence and the events that are occurring speak for themselves. You have to lie a million times to cover up the original lie, so why not just tell the TRUTH. This has been my experience here at “St. LIES school of I wanna just make money so I’ll tell people things to get them to come to the school.” I hope people read this post and make a good decision. The TRUTH is buried underneath a mountain of LIES, so if one can move this mountain please let me know the truth that lies there. As for students looking to come to this school?, I hope your source of info into didn’t come from the Admin like mine did.

P.S. I am new to value MD..so if there is something wrong with this post, let me know, But even if there is something wrong don’t edit it out..unless you want to edit out the truth.

Just a few points to your very long post, as I am a current student at St. Chris:

The girls in York House ARE very young, but to set the record straight they have nothing to do with scheduling your clinical rotations, etc. They only do administrative paperwork for the basic sciences. Clinical management is done by US staff,
Secondly, dealing with KG for housing and your "tiny room" - ALL the housing in England is outdated, tiny and old. The work ethic is MUCH different than the US, and most employees that I have come in contact, whether at St. Chris or in any working environment in the UK, quite frankly, seem to do as little as possible, take on as little responsibility as possible, and with as little enthusiasm as possible. That seems to be more a mark of the work environment in the UK rather than St. Chris itself. Choosing a school solely for the country you would be living in was certainly not a prudent thing to do. That in itself speaks volumes for your decision making. I don't mean it as a personal attack, but if you had fairly good grades and a high MCAT, why go offshore at all? I also took the MCAT, and while my grade was respectable, it was not competitive, and I knew it. I am also much older and the whole grad school/reapplication route is also not an option for me..but you?
As for profs going in and out, sorry, but that doesn't wash. My class alone has half a dozen transfers from Carib schools, and they have told us that the same things go on at those other schools as well, and their complaints about THEIR former schools is why they transferred.
Of course, I have a stake in this, I am a student at St. Chris, so I do my own checking, calling, etc, because I realize that recruiters are salesmen primarily. At this point, from the information received firsthand, I have no problem in believing that the ECFMG documentation will be provided and resolve that issue. I am not as certain for the GMC, because, though the paperwork is the same, the government is not, and if you see my above statements on the work ethic of those in the UK and multiply that 100 times for bureacracy, then you understand my point.
So, in short, I don't consider myself "pro-SC" or a "SC cheerleader", rather I am working for myself and my future. I HAVE seen letters from Senegalese officials, they have always been posted in the Atrium of the building.
Can someone answer for me, please though, if you are NOT a student at St. Chris or similar school, what meaning all of this has for you? What I mean is, even if I weren't in medical school, I would have so many other responsbilities, such as working, taking care of my family, etc..that I would not have TIME to become such a presence on these forums, and certainly not have a REASON, I have too much of a life...so, I don't get it. People don't do things "just because", so I'm curious?

Okay, so I learned that you need to double-check that a 14 MB download to update a driver isn't really a zipped file. But, my laptop is now uncluttered with all the garbage I added to it in the past year (which is nicely compacted in a backup file and I still haven't managed to figure out how to reactivate my 'favorites').

I feel like I'm repeating myself...I have never complained about legitimate criticism of any school. I have levied some of my own. But I do take exception to the baseless accusations and the deliberate efforts of some who distort truths. I don't challenge personal opinions of posters like this Chris123. I read something like that and I get the impression that he isn't happy because he wasn't treated as being special. I had some people in my school who ranted that the school was bad because their maid service wasn't up to the standards they expected. One can't minimize these complaints as they may be exceptionally important to the people making them...but the complaints specific to the actual school itself...well, these forums are filled with similar complaints at every school.

When the charter issue occured at St. Christopher's something seemed amiss to me right from the beginning. Initially, I was as concerned as most people, but I began making inquiries and learned there was substance to the nuances I detected. I have been asked not to discuss it, so it'll have to be left as the 600 lb gorilla hiding behind the sapling.

I'll have to mirror Bhoot's comments above about the unpredictability of bureaucratic response times. But all that is known has not been made public. That which has should reassure those affected that the resolution is coming. That some students are panicking or have decided that the remaining risks are too great are making decisions that are as individual as the reasons all of us considered in selecting a school. As are those students who aren't panicking and aren't running off to other schools.

I'll assume that Bhoot directed his last question to people like me, so I'll answer it. You're right, I have no connection to St. Christopher's. Never have nor will I. I just don't like people who have hidden agendas or who manufacture lies and distortions to profit to the detriment of others.

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Originally Posted by Borgy

The only reason ValueMD is here is because it can provide drama in the forums and attract people for viewing its ads. I don't put must trust into it. Anyone can make an account here and pretty much write anything. Good luck in getting the truth straight when you see people fighting and bickering all over that place.

Oh, the truth is here...you just have to be able to read the tea leaves to find it.

Actually, my questions wasn't directed at you, though I will make it a point to say that I appreciate reading your calm, balanced posts among all the mis-spelled, emotional posts that I tend to read here.

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