Be my guest, you should have done that before you made that comment which you could not cearly back up..dosen't that make you look ...

You should take the TOS violation paper where it states all these rules...turn it side ways and put it somewhere..EDITED

That is just wrong!!! HILARIOUS, but wrong...

Oh my goodness, too funny...

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Unfortunately, its people like this that post here and are percieved to represent the school. With that level of maturity, sadly enough, I would not endorse this individual to interact with patients even though he is from my school. Medicine is a lifestyle, not a job. Aim to achieve the maturity, charatcer and ethics... then worry about the license.

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Why dont you tell the TRUTH about the school...shows some character, some ethics some maturity you have...and COME clean about the real issues at hand here?? sadly enough, I would not endorse this individual to interact with even monkies let alone patients... even though he is from my school...as you say your a doctor now and nothing can be done about whatever you interact with??..whatever YOU dont go here no more..so why do you keep saying stuff?? your not in the heat

i think johnny knoxville did that before

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This should be left to Tom Green to handle alone

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Whether this individual is a student or not isn't really relevant. The concern reflected in the post is most assuredly indicative of the legitimate concern of St. Chris students. Just before signing off last night there were 5 members and 179 guests reviewing this thread...the most I've ever seen. We know that St. Chris students don't like to post here, so I keep in mind those nameless students.

If you are currently attending or did attend an offshore medical school, those who are or were around you are no different that the students at St. Chris. Neither the GMC, IMED, USMLE, PLAB, Senegal or St. Chris administrators need our support--but those students do. I'm sure there are many St. Chris students who are feeling increased anxiety and questioning every aspect of their life right now. That stress contributes to irrational thinking--as evidenced in the OP's initial posts.

To the St. Chris students:

Nobody on ValueMD can affect the reality of what is happening and that reality is reflected on IMED. Only a government can provide information to IMED and Senegal did that. The update includes the New Jersey address for St. Chris which would not be included if the Luton campus wasn't recognized by Senegal. The ECFMG's actions were almost predictable when you think about it. As you'll learn down the road, the paperwork involved in your education and licensure has to be exact--nothing ambiguous, no missing information, no blanks. The ECFMG doesn't play around--it tells you right on its web page that it wants the t's crossed and the i's dotted. Don't read more into the ECFMG's actions than it is. This isn't going to reflect poorly on you or the school down the road. Quite the opposite--you guys are going to be graduating from one of the more scrutinized schools and its validation is going to be beyond reproach. Once you realize that, you'll begin to appreciate that the irony of this is your good fortune.

The issue of the school obtaining California or Texas approval is not relevant to any student attending St. Chris right now or the near future. Presumably, none of you attended St. Chris with the intention of working in either of those states--if you did, I'm sorry-you made a big mistake. It is unlikely that either state will make their approval retroactive. Especially California--it's pretty clear that it's normal approval process is from the date of approval forward. At this time, the only thing related to that approval process that pertains to current students is the administration's continued effort to improve the school toward that end. With each step the administration takes toward that goal, your life at the school improves.

Yes, the NHS Fraud Unit became involved in the investigation of St. Chris. Does that mean there was fraud? No. It means that trained investigators were asked to assist the GMC (by prior arrangement) in its inquiries. Had anything illegal been determined, the government needed experts who knew how and where to look, so the GMC did the right thing. Has any fraud been uncovered? It doesn't appear so. Where is the evidence of that? A couple of us have posted e-mail responses from the GMC that indicated the same issue as reflected by the ECFMG--everybody is waiting for Senegal to cross some t's and dot some i's. When the documentation is received (and hopefully Senegal will be thorough this time) the issues with the GMC and the ECFMG will proably go away within a day or two of each other (depending on the speed of response in each bureaucracy).

The original poster raised some concern about dates and the admission of students. If you research the history of most of these schools you'll see that the school was started and that it took roughly a year or two to get things organized and develop enough to obtain a charter. In St. Christopher's case, it took about two years. There weren't any students attending the school during that time--heck, the teaching staff were initially committed on paper only. The instructors most likely preceded the first students by a couple of weeks or less. It's the same at every new school. Nothing fraudulent about that.

When I began my medical training I was offered this bit of advice: Don't look for elephants in trees. It means that the obscure theories usually aren't the facts and that you should proceed with the obvious. It pertains to St. Chris in this manner: there was a question about the legality of St. Chris's charter and the evidence available to us today demonstrates that the charter was in place and legal as the school and the government intended.

I said it before, but it's worth repeating. The irony of this debacle is that St. Chris is likely going to become one of the preferred schools because of this event.

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It is a stretch to know ANYTHING about what is really happening right now with the ECFMG or GMC. While the students wait for the 3 wise men in robes to magically transport the paperwork to Philadelphia, it is going to be 4 months tomorrow that the GMC suspended taking SC credentials and despite constant promises from administration and apologists nothing appears to be 'done' in any shape or form of the word.

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