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Old 12-06-2003, 07:35 PM
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You know what, it's incredible how much &^*( people say. You don't know anything about these people, what the hell gives you the right to jump out and call out the shots and say Oh, he/she is paid by the school to make it look perfect and this and that. Don't you see everyone is one another page here and your still with that. Get the ^%&* over that already, that's the biggest pile of crap I've ever heard.
Yeah, I don't know the person. But did I attack their character? No.

I am talking about what they say on this forum and other medical school forums around the net. On this forum, it is always the pros of the school and how great it is. And it's been proven how they mislead everyone with licensure. And then they post advertisements of St. Chris ALL OVER THE net on various messageboard. Even at a REVIEW site! A review consists of both pros and cons of the school, right?

Is it so hard to believe these schools have an interest in ValueMD messageboards? No. Because there are tons of potential prospectives here. Just take a look at how much traffic Ross, SGU and AUC boards generate. If this is the "biggest pile of crap" you've ever heard, you'll be in for a disappointment in the future.
Has nothing to do with what I said. Learn to read, I was talking about saying that they are being paid by the school. If you don't have the evidence that shows he's being paid by the school than don't say it. I wasn't referring to anything else.
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Has nothing to do with what I said. Learn to read, I was talking about saying that they are being paid by the school. If you don't have the evidence that shows he's being paid by the school than don't say it. I wasn't referring to anything else.

Learn to be a skeptic and look beyond what people say. You have to do that with foreign schools, especially new ones. It is hard to believe these 2 guys aren't paid by the school. You probably haven't visited as many forums as I have. Everything is a sales pitch.

I'm not the only one, this has been brought up time and time again and most people are suspect.

Check this thread:
http://www.valuemd.com/viewtopic.php...al+school+chat

And people actually listen to you, Darlyn? You said a while back that US clinicals are not important! Give me a break!
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And people actually listen to you, Darlyn? You said a while back that US clinicals are not important! Give me a break
Try rereading the post , I was talking about Foreign Med Schools like in Dominican Republic and Costa Rica, Schools that are Spanish Speaking Med Schools and the students never step foot in the US to complete their Clincals and they still obtain Licensure here in the US. I was talking about those kind of Foreign Med Schools, not Caribbean Med Schools, or SC.[/quote]
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So you disregarded my previous post about paid moderators and sales pitches. I'm glad you are beginning to see the light.
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You know what, it's incredible how much &^*( people say. You don't know anything about these people, what the hell gives you the right to jump out and call out the shots and say Oh, he/she is paid by the school to make it look perfect and this and that. Don't you see everyone is one another page here and your still with that. Get the ^%&* over that already, that's the biggest pile of crap I've ever heard.
Yeah, I don't know the person. But did I attack their character? No.

I am talking about what they say on this forum and other medical school forums around the net. On this forum, it is always the pros of the school and how great it is. And it's been proven how they mislead everyone with licensure. And then they post advertisements of St. Chris ALL OVER THE net on various messageboard. Even at a REVIEW site! A review consists of both pros and cons of the school, right?

Is it so hard to believe these schools have an interest in ValueMD messageboards? No. Because there are tons of potential prospectives here. Just take a look at how much traffic Ross, SGU and AUC boards generate. If this is the "biggest pile of crap" you've ever heard, you'll be in for a disappointment in the future.
Has nothing to do with what I said. Learn to read, I was talking about saying that they are being paid by the school. If you don't have the evidence that shows he's being paid by the school than don't say it. I wasn't referring to anything else.
Actually, if you do a search on these forums you will find that it was admitted by the moderators that Mtt was indeed paid by St. Chris for work he has done.
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Old 12-07-2003, 12:56 AM
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big pooh pooh, id do it if they paid me to also ...get over it ppl...
and about the site..well..my friends who majored in that stuff in undergrad were also paid..boohoo..bad US univ ..
serisouly...u guys make valid points all the time, but this useless crap bout who got paid and making the school look perfect...grow up. why is it that me and the incoming class (and present students there) never saw SCCM as a flawless school? everyone wants to make what is theirs or what they belong to look as good as it is, its human nature 8) . maybe the way things were conveyed was wrong,but you guys are always going off on a tangent about stupid things ..i mean come on, in a few years you all are going to have people's lives in your hands ...grow up a little and stop nitpicking like southern grannies :P
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...grow up a little and stop nitpicking like southern grannies :P
i take offense to that, southern grannies can kick yankie granny butts anyday.......dirty south FF
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mtt is paid by St. Chris now and he was paid by St. Chris before also. How do you trust these mods? No other mod hides information and makes the school look perfect like the guys on here.
Or, consider less faulty reasoning:

Yes, it has been reported here and on SDN that he has been involved with developing the school's website. Therefore, it may be that he's "being paid" (unless volunteering) by the school, just as anyone who gets a job cleaning glassware could be said to be "paid" by the school. The question that matters is whether he's being PAID TO POST TO FORUMS.

As I first responded to this sort of fallacious reasoning months ago on SDN, I am a Web development expert, and if I needed $ for school and the school wanted me to build their website, I'd do it. I'd also do it for free if I happened to like the school enough and wanted to see it succeed or better itself. Neither says anything to the effect that I'd be "paid by the school" in any manner that implies deceipt or lack of credibility.

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I am talking about what they say on this forum and other medical school forums around the net. On this forum, it is always the pros of the school and how great it is.
Huh? Which "they"? Which "other"? Nice job of non-implicated 3rd party anonymity.

First, the only two forums worth mentioning are this one and SDN. Second, given that 90% of the posts on the school are unsubstantiated attacks on it, OF COURSE there are going to be students coming to the school's defense. None of them think the school is without some serious problems, and they have admitted so, but when responding to such trolling, yes, those who like the school are going to come back with some good things to say and *try* to balance things out. It's human nature.

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Proven they mislead, eh? Nice one.

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Pitman,

You may not have followed the "history" of SC here... here's the "reader's digest version" of it.

It all started out with some perspective students asking where clinical rotations are. SC folks here insisted that they are not allowed to mention them in public, and gave a bunch of "excuses" why. I posted a list of questions that prospective students should ask any medical school. Things like clinical rotations, residency, licensure... etc. Secrecy became the norm here. And several SC students began personal attacks whenever questions are asked. I've personally received quite a few nasty, bordering on personal threats in my PM from SC student.

The secrecy continues with Professors names -- again, SC folks here began quoting non-existant external rules to justify their secrecy and insisited that external rules somehow "prohibit" the release of professors names -- and posters who publically mentioned professors names where given warnings...

Moderators here also made statements such as SC being a "private British medical schools." And downplay their Senegalese origin. j

When people persist and ask about clinicals and residencies, misleading claims were made -- things like "we have Ivy League clinicals," again, unwilling to substantiate the claim. And unwilling to say if any "formal affiliations" exist (important for licensure)

And it took "outsiders" to point out that SC's claim of "good in 48 states" are simply not true. In fact, SC's claim that "NJ was good to go" was contradicted by the NJ board itself.

And we now find that more and more states are not approving SC for licensure.

And SC's claim that GMC recognizes them is also not true...

You see, there are just too many misleading, secrecy surrounding SC, and misinformation perpetuated by SC folks... And if you look closely, personal attacks tend to originate from SC folks here... and they are even hostle to their own students who post negative informations about the school...

So, if SC folks are upset that the forum is not "friendly," they only have themselves to blame...

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