you don't buy a business without turnkey solutions .. a lot of students (but not all) shy away from schools that don't have CA and NY approvals. will Spartan be applying again for CA (and NY clinicals approvals) ? It's been since 1985 when the CA disapproval was given, there must be lots of changes by now, or the new owner is going to spend a bit to get the approvals, which means higher enrolment. anyone?

NY is probably going to happen at some point in the near future. Cali will probably be on the way at some point as well.

I imagine they will up the class size from 25 or so to 35-40 at some point. There is way more than enough room available for classes that size. Plus the addition of a 5th Trimester will most likely help. Only thing anyone can do is sit and wait to see what happens....

how much money do you think it would take to upgrade Spartan to pass those two states inspections? Does the new owner have it? It would take years or do you think it could be done quickly?

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I believe NY approval is easier than CA and is not really harmimg the school since Spartan has large # of grads trained in NY and fully licensed in that State.The New owner is a prominent NY surgeon as I understand and NY approval for the purpose FOR clinicals might be around the corner in my opnion.In 1983 [may be in 82] I was with what was called University of Dominica [Now Ross Univ] and at that time Ross did not have much of facility and faculty /Small campus [just started few years back]and they were reviewed by CA and got approved,I believe based on the new Spartan website info with the number of basic sciences faculty[about 18 FT] and utilizing almost same hospitals as the other CA approved schools as well as the facilities [reasonable and school owned] and large # of estabilished grads that have proven practice records,they should have good chance of fresh start.
These days I believe any school can get by without NY or FL recognitions[its just to do clerkship] but its mandatory and a basic for survival to seek and get CA approvals,its a must.Now most states favor Ross,SGU,AUC and SABA,things are changing now and many have adopted CA list.

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"In 1983 [may be in 82] I was with what was called University of Dominica [Now Ross Univ] and at that time Ross did not have much of facility and faculty /Small campus [just started few years back]and they were reviewed by CA and got approved,"

I remember those days, a prominent member of the Medical Board of P.R. visited Ross back then and came back sounding alarms all over the place about how poorly equipped the school was and saying, I am quoting what was said back then.....'these poor students are getting duped". That was then of course. This is now. I think if Spartan follows the letter of the guidelines for CA approval it has a chance. AS for NY and FL that is for rotations only, I don't see the big fuzz about it anyway. CA stands out all by itself and its approval is unique and extremely important like you point out.

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In all honesty we are al Carib students here to help each other.... but I do not foresee Spartan getting Cali approval or even NY approval in the next 5-10 years unless the new owners make dramatic changes to the schools curriculum, examination leniency, professors, lack of teaching even by high school standards.

With that said... I have seen lots of Spartan graduates and many are practicing physicians....

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Spartan has not yet filed an evaluation by the Medical Board of California. The filing process takes a long time (1-2 years) and probably another several years before the state actually comes out to do a site evaluation and renders a decision. If you started at Spartan right now, the process for California approval might still be pending by the time you graduate. Also, those who are already Spartan students if/when California approves of the school will still not qualify for California licensure because they began when the school was still on the "disapproved" list. The problem with not being recognized in all 50 states is that it's still a black mark in states that do recognize Spartan. There are several schools in the Caribbean that ARE recognized in all 50 states. Exhaust those avenues before you think about Spartan.

yes.... Spartan would be the last school you apply to... after you've been rejected from everywhere....

or its an option for those who are self pay.... still its the last resort

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Only 4, SGU, ROOS, AUC and the other one...SABA. I don't believe that is several. I do not count UWI because that is a league of its own, out of the reach of most in these forums.

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And that, coming from a St. Mathews student (rejected by California) is a lot to say.

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