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Old 08-06-2006, 04:10 PM
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I emailed to ask the Texas Medical Board about licensing. Here is what they said.

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Subject: Licensing Question

Hello,
I am interested in attending a foreign medical school and was wondering would I have any issues getting a license to practice medicine in Texas. The school's name is Saba University School of Medicine. Could you please give me some information regarding licensing in Texas for graduates of this school.

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We apologize for the length of time it has taken to respond to your inquiry.

At this time there is no list of schools from which the board will or will not license. Each applicant for licensure is considered on their own in regard to whether or not their particular medical education meets board rules and Texas law.
There is however a list of Medical Schools that do not have to prove substantial equivalence. This list is subject to change and TMB may still require graduates of schools on this list to provide additional information about their medical education.
This list is available at:
http://www.tmb.state.tx.us/professionals/physicians/applicants/physicianapplicants.php
Further licensing information is available at:
http://www.tmb.state.tx.us/rules/rules/163.php

Sincerely,
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Texas Medical Board
http://www.tmb.state.tx.us
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So what does this mean? We will be assessed individually based on our scores and education, therefore we do have a chance to get the texas license or ....? I see Ross is on their (tmb's) list ..
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Are there any SABA grads practicing in Texas? I'd like to hear about the process of establishing "equivalence" between SABA and U.S. programs.

It definitely seems like the most reasonably priced program, and I've been hearing good things about the program. However, if I can't practice in Tejas it does me no good.

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So what does this mean? We will be assessed individually based on our scores and education, therefore we do have a chance to get the texas license or ....? I see Ross is on their (tmb's) list ..
Do a search of valuemd on Texas and you will find that this has been discussed a LOT by me and others. Without rewriting all that the short answer is:
Yes, you can get a license in Texas if you follow the licensure law to the letter and do what it says exactly. This means all greenbook clinicals by specialty, never doing a clinical in Texas unless enrolled in a Texas clincal program as a visiting student, doing a family practice clinical rotation, and make sure your school qualifies as substantially equivalent to Texas med schools (including having some sort of research program - Saba has hyperbaric program). Of course, Texas medical board has blank check from Texas legislature to decide on a case-by-case basis what "substantially equivalent" means. Get my drift? Ross got approved by Texas after basically bringing lawyers and staff to bear on the matter and proving to Texas they are equivalent to a Texas med school, probably at some expense I imagine. Your step 1 score doesn't matter, you just have to pass within 3 tries and finish all steps within 7 years. Smart money on getting licensed on Texas would be on first getting licensed in another, easier state, so that a Texas denial would not crush your chances of getting licensed. Many states (including Texas, ironically) will not license you should you ever be denied licensure in another state, regardless of the reason. Texas also requires you to do 3 years of residency as an IMG, which is pretty standard for most states. LA and I think Maryland only require you to do two years of residency for licensure, last I checked.
I have heard of only two people in Texas from Saba that are practicing medicine. Can't recall their names off-hand, but I do know that one was at UT Galveston.
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I read your earlier post on an earlier thread and that was very helpful. I'll probably contact some of their alumni through SABA who are practicing in Texas to get some first hand advice.

Thanks for the heads up.
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Val is correct.

The word accredited probably isn't the correct word. State licensure boards do not accredit schools at all. They do approve schools for licensure. Saba is approved for licensure by some state medical licensure boards (NY and CA, to name two). Approved for licensure usually means that the state accepts your school as equivalent to their state med schools.

In other states, Saba is simply absent from the list of schools banned by the state. This makes Saba students eligible for licensure on a case by case basis in states that do not have Saba on an "approved schools" list.

I think the toughest state regarding licensure rules is Texas, and they are tough chiefly because they require all ACGME green book clincal rotations on the transcript of an MD applying for licensure. Additionally, they require both neurology and family practice clinical rotations. Third, students may not do clinicals in Texas unless enrolled at a Texas state medical school as a visiting student (this is hard to do; you may as well get admitted as a regular student, I think).

I think it is Indiana that requires that a school be in operation for 15 years before their students can be licensed?
CO is like Texas in that they have had an anti-IMG attitude in the last several years. You'll find that a few states like CO, TX, PA and some others have language in their rules making the state medical board able to reject anyone they darn well please ( until challenged in court) based on various specious (in my view) arguments. OK had such language, and it was struck down in the state supreme court. So they go back and tweak things to let in who they want and keep out the riff-raff, in the name of protecting the public. (Which they do a decent job of, just often overzealously in my view as an international med student.)

Louisiana and Maryland are two of the easier states to get licensed in, I believe IMGS can get licensed in those states with less than 3 years of residency. CA was tough, but not anymore for Saba (except you have to verify every single clinical in writing on a form for them, I believe.)

Your best bet is to go to the website of each state board that you are interested in and read their rules several times and figure out if Saba meets their criteria or not. My strategy is to attempt to meet Texas' tough licensure rules, using them as a guideline to simplify my life. This way, I will likely be eligible for licensure in most other states.
A lot of these anti IMG attitudes are mainly directed towards grads of offshore schools that mostly recruit North American students. Offshore schools who mainly cater to their own countries' populations are different. Graduates of Irish, Australian, and British medical schools don't have the same kinds of licensure issues as those who come from the Caribbean programs aimed at US students or some of the new Eastern European English language programs. For this reason a DO might be a better route than a foreign medical degree.
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Saba TX license

No problem for the PIT (Physician-In-Training) license you need for residency and fellowship. Permanent license is case-by-case right now after your ACGME training. SGU and AUC were recently added to The List, so hopefully Saba will be added soon. TX is a great state for docs to practice wrt tort reform, malpractice, etc.

TX residency is not necessarily any harder to get vs other states. If you are from there then don't sweat it for residency. Just score well on boards and work hard in clinicals.
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The only doc according to the Alumni Page on Saba's website that has been successful in getting a Permanent License in TX has been an Endocrinology doc in San Antonio.

All the others have only done their residency there and subsequently left TX.

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hey im new to this thread...are there Saba grads in California? or doing residency in California? ....Why is California so anti-fmg?
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So lets say I do my residency in ny when i complete med school at saba..and i want to practice in tx...my home town..Have many people done the criteria and do pratice here?> ty
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