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    Mo716 is offline Junior Member
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    "Guests" in a foreign country

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    There's been something that's been bothering me for a while now and I'd be interested to see how other Ross students feel. I just walked out of the New Administration building and overheard one of the school administrators lecturing a student about how the student was a guest in this country and should feel grateful that Dominica was allowing him the priviledge of coming here and studying medicine. I'm not going to say who this administrator is because it really doesn't matter. I've heard this same B.S. several times from several administrators and I'm a little tired of it.

    I don't know how it works in your house, but when my parents invite guests over to our house we don't ever ask them to pay for anything or to feel grateful for the priviledge of coming over. I am NOT a guest here. I pay tuition to go to to this school, I pay rent for my apartment, and I buy my own food. I pay for every product and service I have here with my own money. NOBODY is doing me any favors, and I'm sick of people telling me that I'm a guest and I should be grateful for the locals and their "hospitality." Frankly, I don't think I get my money's worth when it comes to hospitality. I realize that this isn't America and that we're in a third-world country, and the locals try as hard as they can, but this country is never going to progress unless we students stop feeling guilted into being appreciative for things that people are SUPPOSED to do.

    I wish this school's administration would worry less about whether the locals get enough gratitude and worry more about whether its students are getting their money's worth. And as far as being a guest goes, I have every right to be here and with all the money I'm going to spend in the four semesters I'm going to stay here (knock on wood), I'll definitely do more for Dominica than it has ever done for me.

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    "Guests" in a foreign country

    Quote Originally Posted by Mo716
    I have every right to be here
    Really? You were born a Dominican citizen? Never mind....

    Interesting perspective you have on the situation, though. These schools do contribute a huge amount of money both directly and indirectly to the islands' respective economies, and I am sure students get fleeced for every possible dollar on the other islands that we do here. It would be nice if the gratitude were a 2-way street, but unfortunately, it is seldom even 1-way....

    $250+ for a driver's license???? Come on.....

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    Regardless of the fact that you pay tuition, you are in a foreign country and should be respectful of the locals. Just b/c you are in med school doesn't mean they owe you anything...nor does it mean you need to thank every local you see. I think it just comes down to having respect and treating people with respect. Be thankful you were given the chance to study medicine. No one should be giving "favors" to anyone, even if they are in med school.

    Quote..."And as far as being a guest goes, I have every right to be here and with all the money I'm going to spend in the four semesters I'm going to stay here (knock on wood), I'll definitely do more for Dominica than it has ever done for me".

    --Hmmm, lets re-think that one. Ross gave you a chance and look where they are located...I think they are giving you more than what you had before: an MD behind your name. Better use it wisely and be thankful you even had the chance, instead of getting all bent out of shape b/c they called you a "guest", which you are b/c you're not from there.

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    wrong target

    i think mo had the right idea. of course we're indebted to ross for a chance at a medical degree....we arent arguing that.

    mo simply felt that he doesnt feel like he should kiss butt to dominica for being a "guest."

    when i have guests over to my home, i never ask them to pay for food or do the dishes or anything of the sort...they are my GUESTS. i dont treat them rude and things get done in a timely manner.

    ross is the greatest contributor to the dominican economy...and thus, the students here, with their tuition, rent, food expenses create livelihood for the locals.

    we aren't guests in the strictest sense of the word...we are symbiotic creatures that the locals can cheat.

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    Guests??

    Let's see...I have NEVER paid $850 US for any apartment in America - including expensive Connecticut!!! And I've always had 2 bedrooms.

    BTW, my apartment here is ONE bedroom, ONE bath.....hot water (sometimes and NOT in the mornings when we need it most), a fire trap because all windows and doors have metal bars like a jail TO KEEP OUT OUR FRIENDLY HOSTS.

    With this Manhattan rate comes a dirt road, no street lights, a python in my yard, mosquitoes so big they have spines, locals waking me up at 1 AM - that's A f-ckin- M - to sell me bananas. Bananas!~~! that are all over the dang place.

    Oh, I get maid service. .one of my wonderful HOSTS..............who does HER grocery shopping in MY CUPBOARD......HER clothes shopping in MY closet......and leaves the house DIRTIER than when she came in.

    Check this out: She gets paid $20/ apt....she does 6 apts a day....works 9am - 2pm......lunch 1-2. That's 4 hrs a day. And works only until Weds. That's EC$20 x 6 = EC$120/day x 3 days (Monday to WEd) = $360/wk x 4 wks = $1440/ Mo.

    She works 4hrs/day at $30/hr!!!! She is OFF at 2pm...Wed for the weekend!! And you think your surgeon had it great.

    Looking at the great tourism industry here....and ALL the wonderful businesses......the booming import/export scene ....NOT.....I KNOW their president does NOT make that kind of money. But thanks to us GRATEFUL GUESTS.....students' maids make more money than their senators.

    I just love Demon-ica,......I mean Dumb-inica,....sorry I'm bad with spelling .

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    its quite funny...

    that the posts defending the locals are from folks who have only just gotten to the island.

    No matter what the admin tells you, the locals don't want ANY foreigners here. I find that very perplexing, because besides the school and a floundering banana export market this island has NOTHING!!!!

    They all fail to realize that the only way for a country like this one to prosper is through FOREIGN investment.


    As for md2bwife's comment that ross is "giving you an MD after your name" that is not so. The only thing they give you is chance to earn the MD yourself. (which i'm grateful for) The school does not GIVE YOU anything!!!!!


    It'll take a while but most of you will someday realize that you are not a guest in this country, at least not welcome ones, we are more like a necessary evil to be tolerated by the locals.

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    Guests??

    Quote Originally Posted by cmbtdoc
    a python in my yard, .
    Oh man!

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    Im defending the locals

    And I am not new to the island. I lived there the for four semesters including 2 of the breaks. This thread is embarrasing. The majority of the people DO want Ross there and ARE appreciative. They don't kiss your butt or anything, nor should they but they know how important the school is to the NW islands economy. I don't think the admin. is saying you should kiss theirs either. Just treat them with respect and dignity not as if they owe you something. They are giving you something and you are giving them something. Show some decency and get over your self as an American. Students with the attitude expressed above always tended to be the ones who never left campus and the only locals they ever spoke with were there cleaning ladies and the financial aid guys.
    Your being given the opportunity to get your MD and to live for a year in a tropical paradise. So the roads are not all paved. WOW. What a crime. Dominica is FAR from perfect but it is still a wonderful place with wonderful people. I miss it alot sometimes and hate to see students their who don't know what a good deal they have got.

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    ditto

    ditto

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    hey ..

    if you love it and miss it so much then you should finish your training and comeback and live here.

    no?? Idea is a nonstarter? I guess you dont love it as much you say!!!

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