ross has about 5,500 students who borrowed $39.5 million, but only about 3,600 grads?? thats not even counting the ones who didnt get these loans or the 1000 in dominica right now. what happened to the other 1,900 and the money they borrowed? how do they pay it back without a degree?

st george had about 3,800 students borrow $34 million but they have graduated about the same number.

these numbers just don't add up. can someone please explain?

Assuming your numbers are correct and they sound about right, the answers to your questions should be blatently obvious and I won't insult your intelligence with an explanation.

One thing for sure is that coming to Ross Medical schooll is a highly risky endeavor and you'd better be ready to make lots of sacrifices and ignore your fears. I hope I won't be one of the 1900 w/o a degree.

i thought it was known ross has a high attrition rate, or am i missing something?

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those are the people who transferedto AUC, spartan, and st mathews. so in other words, people who will never graduate from anywhere. Ross used to have a high attrition rate because they took people who US schools said couldnt make it. so when the US schools are proven right, I have never understood why people say that is ross's fault. I NEVER saw anyone fail who i felt didnt deserve it. if you cant get the material, you shouldnt be an MD

Ross does not have a high attrition rate. Another false belief passed around by students (and possibly admin) from other schools.

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i stand corrected

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Mitchdc is not really correct. Mitch will back anything administration says! The attrition rate is much highter than the University will admitt, but since some people leave b4 they officially fail, Ross does not include this as attrition...but the end result is the same..they are not here...most of these people would have failed anyway..so the attrition rate would be much higher if they suffered until the end of the semester and officialy failed.

Even not including these people, the attrition rate if high..more people fail here every semester than in all 4 years combined at stateside schools..the reason ross fails a lot of students is b/c there % passing the usmle would go down if they didn't..they will take the money for a few semesters..then get rid of you so you don't bring down the pass rate!

Pure conjecture. If they wanted to boost the USMLE pass rate they would only accept those with great undergrad stats, superb experience, and high MCAT score.

As we all know, Ross gives people chances that otherwise would never get one. Some of those people have the aptitude for medical school and the goal of being a physician, but just don't make it. For many, the US schools already decided that they wouldn't take on chance on these students -- but Ross has. They are given a fair chance and some fall back, but few fail out. The University does not purposely fail any, but they still must have academic integrity to fail the students who just aren't comprehending the subject matter.

ROSSGIRLMD is correct in saying that more students fail here than in a US school. In a US school, almost every student scored higher than a 24 on their MCAT (unlike here). We know that the 24 is the lowest predictive score for passing medical school. We have a MUCH different population of students here than US schools, any everybody knows that.

2nd year, ROSSGIRLMD, and everybody else both know that if you work hard you will make it without a problem. If the attrition figure was that high, we wouldn't get federal loans, that is the official measure. Just the facts.

If you want to practice in a country where everybody who wanted to be a physician could practice medicine, that's your choice. For myself, I'd rather a school have some standards in who they graduate.

MitchDC

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Our class began last September with 315 students. We are down to about 220-225 now. Out of this, we picked up about 8 students from the last 4th semester class. Overall, there are about 15-20 students we have added to our original class who have failed 2nd, 3rd, or transfererred from other schools. Its amazing how many students who had to repeat a class end up failing out of schools. So these people end up transferring out or pursue other careers. Like rossgirlmd says, many leave before without taking the finals so they didn't technically failed. There have been only three people who I can say left not b/c of their grades. One had chronic GI ulcers, the other left for the military, and the third left for real personal reasons while maintaining great grades. Oh, and we had a Dean's List student who transferred elswhere b/e he hated his roomate.

Thanks to Dr. B, a lot of people inexplicably failed Microbiology last semester (not pharm. like another poster states) but no doubt due to the good work of the Promotion Committee (Dr. Tweedale, Dr. Laville, and Dean Wagner), many of my peers were promoted to 4th as they should have been. The attrition rate here is complicated and multifactorial so every case needs to be treated differently.

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