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ROSS CLINICAL SITES: a collection of data & opinions

This thread has been developed to help forum users readily locate information about the Ross clinical rotations and clerkships. Duplicate postings will be locked and linked to this one.


Ross University currently has affiliation agreements for core clerkships with teaching hospitals. Students can elect to participate in clinical training in the U.S. or in Dominica. Elective clerkships can be completed in an even larger number of hospitals across the U.S.

Participation in this U.S. clinical training program, alongside students from U.S. medical schools, provides Ross University students with an opportunity in the residency match.

Listed below are the names of the teaching hospitals currently affiliated with Ross University.

California
Metropolitan State Hospital, Norwalk

Connecticut
Griffin Hospital, Derby
St. Mary's Hospital, Waterbury

Florida
Greater Miami Health Education & Training Centers, South Miami
Larkin Community Hospital, South Miami

Illinois
Jackson Park Hospital, Chicago
St. Anthony's Hospital, Chicago

Maryland
Harbor Hospital Center, Baltimore
Prince George's Hospital Center, Cheverly
Spring Grove Hospital Center, Catonsville
St. Agnes Hospital, Baltimore

Massachusetts
Cape Cod Hospital, Hyannis

New Jersey
Bergen Regional Medical Center, Paramus
Raritan Bay Medical Center, Perth Amboy
St. Mary Hospital of Hoboken, Hoboken
Trinitas Hospital, Elizabeth

New York
Bronx-Lebanon Hospital Center, Bronx
Brookdale Hospital Medical Center, Brooklyn
Catholic Medical Center, Jamaica
Hospital for Joint Diseases, New York City
King's County Hospital Center, Brooklyn
Long Beach Medical Center, Long Beach
Long Island College Hospital, Brooklyn
Lutheran Medical Center, Brooklyn
Maimonides Medical Center, Brooklyn
Mary Immaculate Hospital, Far Rockaway
Mount Vernon Hospital, Mount Vernon
Nassau County Medical Center, East Meadow
Peninsula Hospital Center, Far Rockaway
Queens Hospital Center, Jamaica
Rochester General Hospital, Rochester
St. Barnabas Hospital, Bronx
St. Clare's Hospital of Schenectady, Schenectady
St. John's Episcopal Hospital, Far Rockaway
Wyckoff Heights Medical Center, Brooklyn

Nevada
West Hills Hospital - BHC Health Services of Nevada, Reno

Ohio
Huron Hospital, Cleveland

Washington, DC
St. Elizabeth Hospital

Commonwealth of Dominica, West Indies
Princess Margaret Hospital, Roseau, Dominica



The following link is the Ross clinical curriculum:
http://www.rossmed.edu/Medical_Schoo..._sciences.html

Clinical clerkships for Ross are as follows:
320 MEDICINE
321 Cardiology
322 Critical Care Medicine
323 Emergency Medicine
324 Endocrinology
325 Gastroenterology
326 Hematology
327 Infectious Disease
328 Allergy and Immunology
329 Nephrology
330 Oncology
331 Pulmonary Disease
332 Rheumatology
333 Rehabilitation Medicine
335 Geriatrics
336 Sports Medicine
337 Tropical Medicine
338 Medicine Subinternship
410 OBSTETRICS/GYNECOLOGY
411 Obstetrics/Gynecology Subinternship
490 PEDIATRICS
491 Pediatrics Subinternship
540 PSYCHIATRY
610 SURGERY
611 Colon & Rectal Surgery
612 Neurological Surgery
613 Orthopedic Surgery
615 Plastic Surgery
617 Urology
618 Vascular Surgery
619 Otolaryngology
620 Trauma Surgery
623 Ophthalmology
626 Hand Surgery
627 Surgical Subinternship
628 Pediatric Surgery
640 Burn Surgery
641 Shock Trauma Surgery
642 Cardiothoracic Surgery
710 FAMILY PRACTICE
ELECTIVES
Approval of any clerkship electives not listed here is at the discretion of the Dean of Clinical Sciences.
802 Neonatology
803 Neurological Pathology
805 Ambulatory Internal Medicine
806 Neurology
807 Anesthesiology
808 Emergency Room
812 Clinical Pathology
813 Clinical Radiology
815 Radiation Oncology
816 Radiology
817 Dermatology
819 Public Health
821 Electrocardiography
822 Family Practice Elective
825 General Surgery Elective
828 Hyperbaric Medicine/Wound Care
830 Gynecologic Surgery
833 Perinatology
834 Infertility
837 Intensive Care Unit
839 Ob/Gyn Anesthesia
840 Medical Ethics
846 Nuclear Medicine
851 Pathology
853 Pediatric Infectious Disease
854 Pediatric Genetics
857 Preventive Medicine
858 Primary Care
859 Psychiatry Elective
866 Substance Abuse
872 Pediatric Orthopedics
873 Surgical Elective
875 Medicine Elective
877 Podiatry
879 Neonatal Intensive Care Unit
882 Pediatric Elective
888 Surgical Oncology
892 Ob/Gyn Elective
896 Adolescent Medicine
897 Physical Medicine and Rehabilitation
RESEARCH ELECTIVES:
860 Pediatrics Research Elective
870 Clinical Research Elective
880 Medical Research Elective
890 Surgical Research Elective

Ross clinical guidelines can be found at:
http://www.rossmed.edu/Medical_Schoo..._04-update.pdf
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Old 04-09-2005, 08:28 PM
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Here is a review of some very common rotation sites in NYC. I rotated thru these sites in 2003-2004:

1. IM- Kings county-definitely not for everybody. very rigorous, not much internal support, attending want things done yesterday, and yes tongue-lashings did occur, but I felt overall it was a good first roatation and it prepared me to be autonomous. Yes, you do everything from phlebotomy to patient transport. Very humbling rotation.
2. FP-Wyckoff-not so good. At the time it was disorganized as far as the outpatient clinics. inpatient was alright. The chief residents at the time were the best part. Overnight calls you will do alot of H&P's because that is your job.
3. Peds-Brookdale-the preceptor is very good and informative, but the rest of the rotation was just average at best. Unfortuantely, for step 2. I had to go and basically learn peds from Kaplan and First Aid. basically you spend each week in a diiferent area of peds, e.g. NICU, Floor, clinics.
4. Psychiatry-St. johns far rockaway- I know this will be a point of contention for some, but actually, I found this to be a good experience. At the time the rotation was divided into 3 weeks in one area and 3 weeks in another. I was lucky enough to get the two best areas, inpatient and outpatient psych. Both attendings were excellent and I learned a bunch. However, even at the time I knew that depending what areas you were assigned to, this could be a very variable rotation as far as learning.
5. OB/GYN-queens hospital-this was a hard and excellent rotation. prob one of the best. very organized and very hands on. Plus the facilities were beautiful compared to what we are used to in NY. However, some of the moodiest and sometimes just plain mean residents that I encountered in clinicals.
6. Surgery-catholic medical center-again another hard but well organized rotation. you do 6 weeks at a trauma center which is fun and 6 weeks at another hospital learning nothing but general surgery. You are Q4 at the trauma center and Q6 at the other hospital. Residents are very cool and respectful.

I have one caveat to these reviews, keep in mind that some of these rotations, I did upwards of 2 years ago. So things may have changed by now. good luck, my fellow Rossies.
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I'll follow Gator's start: (I as well did these in 2003-2004 and slight changes might have occured).

FP: Wyckoff, Brooklyn, NY: As an introduction to inpatient and outpatient, it was sufficient. Teaching was scant but i did learn how to write a patient note which served me well. All Ross students. Free lunch.

Peds: St.Barnabas, Bronx, NY: excellent rotation. 2 ross students per rotation, others include DO and Cornell students. 3 weeks inpatient including NICU and 2 weeks outpatient, 1 week Peds-ER. One of the best rotations that I had. Teaching was optimal including multiple daily lectures and one-on one contact with the residents/chief residents. Call is Q7 and only till 10pm for inpatient only. 3 free meals.day.

IM: Harbor, Baltimore, MD: Excellent wrt teaching. The PD involves the students and encourages student participation. Many top-scoring FMGs make this rotation great for learning medicine. Not much hands on (i.e. blood draws, IV lines) but you do get to learn clinical medicine. One of the best IM clinical sites that Ross has. Call Q4. Many lunchtime drug-rep lunches.

Surgery: Huron, Cleveland, OH: 10 Ross students per rotation. Call is Q4. All cases require students to scrub in.Many classic bread and butter cases are presented. 2nd level trauma center. A mix of FMG's and American grads. Long hours but good learning opportunities.

OB/GYN: Queen's Hosp, NY: Very hands on. Renovated facilities, unfortunately no call rooms, so you get to sleep on chairs. Demonstrates the "real-life" of Obs/Gynae lifestyle. Be prepared to work and not slack.

Psych: Spring Grove, Baltimore, MD: 2-3 Ross students/rotation. Rotation consists of AUC, SGU and Ross students. Paired into groups of 2. Divided into one of either inpatient, outpatient, medical psyche for the entire 6 week rotation. Overall fun and not stressful. Free housing for the duration of the rotation. No weekends, no call.
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acgme rotations

It would be nice to not just have the clinical clerkship list that's straight from the Ross school website, but also what actual rotations are at each site and if they are acgme or not.
I guess I'll be looking each one up on the acgme site because I have to do all acgme core rotations, so if anyone's interested after I get them all together just let me know.
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You're in luck on the first part of your lamentation. There is a Document that exists put out by Ross that lists what rotations you can do at each clinical site. I have seen this docement and some of my friends have it in their possession. So I know it exists. The point here is you could probably call the Ross office or your clinical coordinator and inquire about it. One thing however, if I recall correctly, it said nothing about the AOA or ACGME status of the rotations and/or sites.
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my experience could be a bit dated, but here goes:

in NYC:

Brookdale Hospital Medical Center, Brooklyn- great preceptor for peds, good teaching for step 2 CK. have to do a certain # of calls, which sucks.

Catholic Medical Center, Jamaica- not too bad of an area, mall is closeby, good for all rotations, nice facilities

King's County Hospital Center, Brooklyn- for IM, long hours, good teaching, youre teh attending basically, lots of hands on work

Long Island College Hospital, Brooklyn- awesome for everything, nice area, easy subway access

Lutheran Medical Center, Brooklyn-awesome fore everything. nice facilities, but crappy area. long walk from subway

Mount Vernon Hospital, Mount Vernon- every rotation i did here was decent

Peninsula Hospital Center-any elective: decent hours, good learning. i think its DO for lots of rotations, be careful...i didnt get burned though for going here when applying for residency

St. John's Episcopal Hospital, Far Rockaway-awesome for psyc. reasobanle hours.

Wyckoff Heights Medical Center, Brooklyn:
IM- will learn lots for step 2 Cs, nothing for step 2 CK. needs improvement on teaching diagnosis/treatment, great for mastering physical exam. lots of scut. free lunch. reasonable hours. nice attendings.
FP- same as above, decent outot clinic

In Chicago:

Jackson Park: every rotations is awesome here, i loved it. crappy area, but great restaurants in Chicago make it worth it (make sure to hit giordanos pizza, portillos for italian beef and chicago dogs, and lawry's for prime rib). lots of time to study for step 2. wish i coudlve done all rotations here.
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Cores in Miami

Does anyone know how the cores are for the miami clinics?
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Re: Cores in Miami

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Does anyone know how the cores are for the miami clinics?
As far as I know, someone correct me if I am wrong, but you can only do the FP core at Larkin. You have inquired about it throughout this forum. If you would like to learn anything, you should do your FP core in NY or other states.

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Anyone been to or know anything about the area and clinicals at Nassau County in NY??
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question about how JPH clinicals are setup.

I have JPH in Nov basically. And I guess it'll take me through to the end of Jan for Medicine.

How long would I have to wait till I start my next clinical?

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