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Old 12-17-2004, 05:22 PM
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Re: why does it matter

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Why does it matter how many students of variious ethnic backgounds go to Ross or any other school for that matter. I think the days of segregation are over. I think that a school with many American students would be well diversified. If you look at the US medical schools you will see a good number of Indian, Packistan, oriental students. Forwhat ever reason their culture believes in education and that is why they become doctors.
just because it may not matter to you, i can see why it absolutely DOES matter for others. like it or not, the US isnt exactly "colorblind." the hows and whys behind this are vast and tremendous. so many societal issues, politics, cultural boundaries and issues of acculturation exist...that you can even get yourself a PhD on the matter if you choose to study on the topic!

just an example....if an indian student feels he wants to hang out with other indian students to avoid cultural misunderstandings and discrimination, i dont see why you should call that "segregation." its more of a self-protection and preservation.

the same applies to other ethnic groups as well. most minority leaders from the far right to the far left of the politcal spectrum agree that the days of complete equality and fair-play have not arrived yet. until that time, it should be no surprise that people seek out bonds and support within their own culture.

finally, i am not of indian origin, but if i was, i would ask the same question. this is because people of indian origin account for the largest minority physician force in the US. thus, it would strike me as "off" if a school catering to US students didnt have a fair amount of indian student representation. this can be due to either: 1) indian students not applying because of the schools undesirability or 2) the school discriminates against accepting indians. neither would be a good prospect.
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Why does it matter how many students of variious ethnic backgounds go to Ross or any other school for that matter. I think the days of segregation are over. I think that a school with many American students would be well diversified. If you look at the US medical schools you will see a good number of Indian, Packistan, oriental students. Forwhat ever reason their culture believes in education and that is why they become doctors.
just because it may not matter to you, i can see why it absolutely DOES matter for others. like it or not, the US isnt exactly "colorblind." the hows and whys behind this are vast and tremendous. so many societal issues, politics, cultural boundaries and issues of acculturation exist...that you can even get yourself a PhD on the matter if you choose to study on the topic!

just an example....if an indian student feels he wants to hang out with other indian students to avoid cultural misunderstandings and discrimination, i dont see why you should call that "segregation." its more of a self-protection and preservation.

the same applies to other ethnic groups as well. most minority leaders from the far right to the far left of the politcal spectrum agree that the days of complete equality and fair-play have not arrived yet. until that time, it should be no surprise that people seek out bonds and support within their own culture.

finally, i am not of indian origin, but if i was, i would ask the same question. this is because people of indian origin account for the largest minority physician force in the US. thus, it would strike me as "off" if a school catering to US students didnt have a fair amount of indian student representation. this can be due to either: 1) indian students not applying because of the schools undesirability or 2) the school discriminates against accepting indians. neither would be a good prospect.
I totally agree! I am Indian.
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I think its good that one is in touch with their race and culture, as long as you can respect other cutlures and races at the same time
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Why does it matter how many students of variious ethnic backgounds go to Ross or any other school for that matter. I think the days of segregation are over. I think that a school with many American students would be well diversified. If you look at the US medical schools you will see a good number of Indian, Packistan, oriental students. Forwhat ever reason their culture believes in education and that is why they become doctors.
just because it may not matter to you, i can see why it absolutely DOES matter for others. like it or not, the US isnt exactly "colorblind." the hows and whys behind this are vast and tremendous. so many societal issues, politics, cultural boundaries and issues of acculturation exist...that you can even get yourself a PhD on the matter if you choose to study on the topic!

just an example....if an indian student feels he wants to hang out with other indian students to avoid cultural misunderstandings and discrimination, i dont see why you should call that "segregation." its more of a self-protection and preservation.

the same applies to other ethnic groups as well. most minority leaders from the far right to the far left of the politcal spectrum agree that the days of complete equality and fair-play have not arrived yet. until that time, it should be no surprise that people seek out bonds and support within their own culture.

finally, i am not of indian origin, but if i was, i would ask the same question. this is because people of indian origin account for the largest minority physician force in the US. thus, it would strike me as "off" if a school catering to US students didnt have a fair amount of indian student representation. this can be due to either: 1) indian students not applying because of the schools undesirability or 2) the school discriminates against accepting indians. neither would be a good prospect.
I totally agree! I am Indian.
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By reducing your social time to your own ethnic group you reduce your chances to make friends from other cultures.I think that is a missed opportunity. I know that many of educated Americans are very interested in the complexities of Indian culture.
Also, staying in your own racial group in a setting like Ross tend to create a "them" vs. "us" mentality.And that is felt both ways.It's true I guess that we tend to hang around people that think like we do.But just because someone is of your race doesn't mean they think like you do. As an Italian American, I am very proud of my heritage and have many Italian friends.Yet I find that my two best and closest friends are Jewish and Indian. In the spirit of learning,understanding, and being better physicians,it behooves us to mingle, and not search out groups that look and act like we do.
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By reducing your social time to your own ethnic group you reduce your chances to make friends from other cultures.I think that is a missed opportunity. I know that many of educated Americans are very interested in the complexities of Indian culture.
Also, staying in your own racial group in a setting like Ross tend to create a "them" vs. "us" mentality.And that is felt both ways.It's true,I guess,that we tend to hang around people that think like we do.But just because someone is of your race doesn't mean they think like you do. As an Italian American, I am very proud of my heritage and have many Italian friends.Yet I find that my two best and closest friends are Jewish and Indian. In the spirit of learning,understanding, and being better physicians,it behooves us to mingle, and not search out groups that look and act like we do.
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By reducing your social time to your own ethnic group you reduce your chances to make friends from other cultures.I think that is a missed opportunity. I know that many of educated Americans are very interested in the complexities of Indian culture.
Also, staying in your own racial group in a setting like Ross tend to create a "them" vs. "us" mentality.And that is felt both ways.It's true,I guess,that we tend to hang around people that think like we do.But just because someone is of your race doesn't mean they think like you do. As an Italian American, I am very proud of my heritage and have many Italian friends.Yet I find that my two best and closest friends are Jewish and Indian. In the spirit of learning,understanding, and being better physicians,it behooves us to mingle, and not search out groups that look and act like we do.
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someone asks a question so simple as: "are there many indians at Ross", and we all take so much meaning to it. ANY ONE WHO IS PART OF AN ETHNIC MINORITY HAS ASKED THIS QUESTION AT SOME TIME- IT'S ONLY NORMAL . I wouldnt want to go to a school that didnt have a decent number of black students (I'm black by the way). It is just a simple question, you either know the answer or you dont. I think it is just ridiculous to assume the question means anything but what it means


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Old 12-23-2004, 11:30 PM
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any inidans at ross???

about 75% indian!!!!!! how does that grab u?????
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