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Old 07-02-2009, 07:01 PM
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She wont do the surgery in the first place, because she's under stress. No one will want her to do it either, they'll tell her to take the day off.

Taking tests is not important enough, even in med school, to risk putting a student, already in high state of tension from crime, under more stress. it should not only be life threatening situations that get some sympathy from admin.
Do all you guys come from Detroit or something, you're all so inured to violent crime that you think a mini is more important?
they do make exceptions. stop blowing this out of proportion, the administration doesnt put students at risk like that. if there is a legitimate concern, there are options available to the student. if the student chooses not to take the options because they dont want them or feel theyre not fair options, well too bad. this place isnt a charity or a pity-party, its a medical school. we all have things to deal with, so either deal with them or take whatever options the school gives you.
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This place isnt a charity or a pity-party, its a medical school. we all have things to deal with, so either deal with them or take whatever options the school gives you.
You make med school sound about as inviting and accommadating as the military.
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You make med school sound about as inviting and accommadating as the military.
take it or leave it dude. grad school is no joke and every school on earth has its own rules. you want to change them, open up your own med school i suppose.
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Whining? Robbery is not a part of everyday life that one can just move on from at will - and preparing for a mini, from my experience, requires a clear head and few distractions.
there is a problem if being robbed causes you to lose your focus on passing an exam...believe me wether or not some cornball local tried to rob me im not gonna forget that carcinoma in situ is.....that is just a student attempting to use that as an excuse to get out of studying......do you really think this is how it will be when/if you make it to practice? You may wake up to your car missing radio/tires/cracked window what are you gonna do? say that the attending is "sick" bc he expects you to come in regardless. Suck it up and stop being such a softy. You are working in the real world not a idealistic vaccumm
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there is a problem if being robbed causes you to lose your focus on passing an exam...believe me wether or not some cornball local tried to rob me im not gonna forget that carcinoma in situ is.....that is just a student attempting to use that as an excuse to get out of studying......do you really think this is how it will be when/if you make it to practice? You may wake up to your car missing radio/tires/cracked window what are you gonna do? say that the attending is "sick" bc he expects you to come in regardless. Suck it up and stop being such a softy. You are working in the real world not a idealistic vaccumm
If being a softy means standing up for the victim of a violent crime, then I confess. You, on the other hand, come across as cold.
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She wont do the surgery in the first place, because she's under stress. No one will want her to do it either, they'll tell her to take the day off.

Taking tests is not important enough, even in med school, to risk putting a student, already in high state of tension from crime, under more stress. it should not only be life threatening situations that get some sympathy from admin.
Do all you guys come from Detroit or something, you're all so inured to violent crime that you think a mini is more important?
those who can't deal with stress well shouldn't enter a profession that has a lot of...stress.

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there is a problem if being robbed causes you to lose your focus on passing an exam...believe me wether or not some cornball local tried to rob me im not gonna forget that carcinoma in situ is.....that is just a student attempting to use that as an excuse to get out of studying......do you really think this is how it will be when/if you make it to practice? You may wake up to your car missing radio/tires/cracked window what are you gonna do? say that the attending is "sick" bc he expects you to come in regardless. Suck it up and stop being such a softy. You are working in the real world not a idealistic vaccumm
^couldn't agree more. robbery leading to a quasi-PTSD?? if such is the case, there is something wrong with the victim's stress coping skills. granted, i feel empathy for the victim. however, in the world we live in today there will undoubtedly be experiences as the OP described. if one has the better personality, they will look at the experience, learn from it, and move on. if not, they unravel. frankly, i'd rather have the latter cases out of the medical profession, unless they're going to be dermatologists or something of that nature.

besides, why was the victim in a situation where this was able to happen in the first place? people must be a little more aware/intelligent than that.
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No one here is cold hearted towards victims of crime. All they are telling you is that there is time when personal emotion/moral and standard guideline comes into conflict, and personal emotion does not always win. If everyone care so much for emotional/moral, US wouldn't be so such a sue-happy nation where standard guideline screw justifiable people over. A system can only sustain itself when all guideline are upheld, one screw loose can lead to an unforeseen chain reaction.

As for the victim, I sympathize for the unfortunate events that unfold. But you are talking about maintaining thousands of students exam in one day. And then you tell them to make special arrangement for one individual? In undergrad, it is easily accomplish for one professor does the job so he or she can decide whatever. Here, you have many profs contributing questions to the exam which the question were submitted and composed way before hand, inorder to get everything in proper order for every students. Thus there is no way in 1 or 2 days for Ross even to gather up all the profs again, and forcing them to write up difference questions and then set it up for one students. And you have to get all the profs approval, the higher ups approval, etc. The amount of hassle is absurd. Thus if it was me that situation as the administration, I would have not done any different.

IF you want to blame anything, blame it on the large class size. Without such order, Ross would be quite chaotic with such large classes. Please recall the reason they removed Physiology extra credit session. Lack guideline and discipline, cheaters galore, thus it was removed.
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It all boils down to whether or not the student is lying about their "emotional state"... A girl in my 1st semester "mis-bubbled" her final exam scantron and failed 3 classes... Ross let her repeat and she failed 1st again...

When I was a TA in undergrad an inordinate amount of grandmothers died before the final...

Ross's position is defense against the many more students who would take advantage of "crisis"... unfortunately those who really need the help lose out..... luckily there are very few of those a semester...
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