Question on 2008 Match

thomasfx10 · #1 (**permalink**) 04-12-2008, 10:24 AM

Does anyone know if the 2008 Match (See below) is for all three semesters? I think I read the size of the classes were about 300.

I counted the spots below and the total to approx. 459. I am trying to figure out what the precentage of Matched grads for 2008. If this is for all three semesters what are the average size of the classes? Unless someone knows the % of Matched for 2008 ... it would save me some time for trying to figure this out.

I would think there would be some variables too. Like who was pre-matched and not on the list.

What are some reason on why you would not get match? Bad interviewer? Step scores low? Thanks!

Anesthesiology
Advocate Illinois Masonic Medical Center
Cook County-Stroger Hospital – Illinois
Medical University of South Carolina
Ochsner Clinic Foundation – Louisiana
State University of New York Health Sciences Center, Brooklyn – New York
Stony Brook Teachers Hospitals – New York
University of Illinois College of Medicine – Chicago
University of Rochester/Strong Memorial – New York (2)
Wake Forest Baptist Medical Center – North Carolina
Emergency Medicine
Barnes-Jewish Hospital – Missouri
Earl K. Long Medical Center – Louisiana
Henry Ford Health Sciences Center – Michigan
Metropolitan Hospital Center – New York
Synergy Medical Education Alliance – Michigan
University of Arkansas – Little Rock
University of Puerto Rico
University of South Florida College of Medicine – Tampa
Wayne State University/Detroit Medical Center – Michigan (4)
Family Medicine
Albany Medical Center Hospital – New York (3)
Arrowhead Regional Medical Center – California
Aultman Hospital/NEOUCOM – Ohio
Austin Medical Education Programs – Texas
Barberton Cit/NEOUCOM – Ohio (3)
Baton Rouge General Medical Center- Louisiana
Bayfront Medical Center – Florida (2)
Baylor Medical Center – Garland, Texas
Bon Secours St. F r a n c i s – Virginia
Bridgeport Hospital – Connecticut
Christus Spohn Memorial Hospital – Texas
Community Hospitals – Indiana (2)
Concord Hospital – New Hampshire
Drexel University College of Medicine – Pennsylvania
East Jefferson General Hospital – Louisiana
Emory University School of Medicine – Georgia
Florida Hospital, Orlando – Florida
Grant Medical Center – Ohio (2)
Greenville Hospital System/University of Southern California School of Medicine (2)
Hinsdale Hospital – Illinois (3)
JFK Medical Center – New Jersey
Jamaica Hospital Medical Center – New York
Kaiser Permanente – Riverside, California
Lehigh Valley Hospital – Pennsylvania
Louisiana State University Health Sciences Center-Lake Charles – Louisiana
Louisiana State University School of Medicine – New Orleans
Loyola University Medical Center – Illinois (3)
McLaren Regional Medical Center – Michigan
Medical College of Georgia – Augusta
Medical College of Wisconsin Affiliated Hospitals
Memorial Health University Medical Center – Georgia (2)
Mercer University School of Medicine/Medical Center Central Georgia (3)
Mercy Hospital – Pittsburg, Pennsylvania
Mercy Medical Center – Redding, California (2)
Middlesex Hospital – Connecticut
Montgomery Hospital – Pennsylvania
Mt. Sinai Hospital Medical Center – Illinois
New York Medical College/St. Joseph – New York
New York Medical College Brooklyn and Queens – New York
North Oakland Medical Centers – Michigan
Ohio State University Medical Center – Ohio
Palmetto Health Richland – South Carolina (2)
Phoenix Baptist Hospital – Arizona
Pitt County Memorial Hospital/Brody School of Medicine – North Carolina
Riverside County Regional Medical – California (2)
Rush-Copley Memorial Hospital – Illinois
Sacred Heart Hospital – Pennsylvania
San Jacinto Methodist Hospital – Texas (4)
San Joaquin General Hospital – California (2)
Scottsdale Healthcare – Osborn, Arizona (2)
Somerset Medical Center – New Jersey
South Nassau Community Hospital – New York
Southern Illinois University Decatur– Illinois
Southern Illinois University School of Medicine and Affiliated Hospitals – Illinois
St. John Hospital – Michigan
St. Joseph’s Hospital – Arizona (3)
St. Lukes Medical Center – Wisconsin (2)
St. Mary and Elizabeth Medical Center – Illinois
St. Vincent’s Medical Center – Florida (2)
St. Vincent Mercy Medical Center – Ohio
Stamford Hospital – Columbia, Connecticut (2)
Stanislaus Health Services – California (2)
Stony Brook Teachers Hospitals – New York (3)
Texas A &M – Scott and White (2)
Texas Tech University Affiliate – Lubbock
University Hospitals Case Medical Center – Ohio
University Medical Center, Lafayette – Louisiana (2)
University at Buffalo – New York
University of Alabama School of Medicine – Huntsville
University of Arkansas for Medical Sciences/Arkansas Area Health Education Center – Fayetteville (2)
University of California, San Francisco – Fresno
University of Connecticut Health Center
University of Illinois College of Medicine – Chicago (2)
University of Illinois Methodist Medical Center
University of Kansas School of Medicine – Kansas City
University of Louisville School of Medicine – Kentucky (3)
University of Maryland Medical Center
University of Massachusetts Medical School – Fitchburg
University of Medicine and Dentistry of New Jersey – Robert Wood Johnson Central State Hospital – Piscataway (5)
University of Medicine and Dentistry of New Jersey-New Jersey Medical – Newark
University of Nebraska Affiliated Hospitals
University of Nevada School of Medicine – Reno
University of North Carolina Hospitals
University of North Dakota School of Medicine
University of Oklahoma College of Medicine – Oklahoma City
University of Oklahoma College of Medicine –Tulsa
University of Texas Health Sciences Center – San Antonio
University of Vermont College of Medicine/Fletcher Allen – Vermont
Valley Medical Center – Washington
Warren Hospital –New Jersey
Washington Hospital – Pennsylvania
West Jersey Health System – New Jersey (2)
Internal Medicine
Advocate Lutheran General Hospital – Illinois
Akron General Medical/NEOUCOM – Ohio
Albany Medical Center –New York (3)
Ball Memorial Hospital – Indiana
Banner Good Samaritan Medical Center – Arizona (2)
Beth Israel Medical Center – New York
Capitol Health System at Fuld – New Jersey
Case Western/Metro Health Medical Center – Ohio (4)
Cleveland Clinic Foundation – Ohio (2)
Detroit Medical Center Corporation – Michigan
Drexel University College of Medicine – Pennsylvania (3)
Englewood Hospital – New Jersey (2)
Flushing Hospital Medical Center – New York
Franklin Square Hospital – Maryland
Good Samaritan of Cincinnati – Ohio (2)
Hospital of St. Raphael – Connecticut
Indiana University School of Medicine
Kaiser Permanente – San Francisco, California
Kaiser Permanente – Santa Clara, California (4)
Kern Medical Center – California (2)
Lahey Clinic – Massachusetts
Maimonides Medical Center – New York (5)
Maine Medical Center
Maricopa Medical Center – Arizona (2)
Medical College of Georgia – Augusta
Medical College of Wisconsin Affiliated Hospitals (6)
Meharry/Metro General – Tennessee (2)
Memorial Health University Medical Center – Georgia
Mercer University School of Medicine/Medical Center of Central Georgia (2)
Mercy Hospital and Medical Center – Illinois
Morehouse School of Medicine – Georgia
Morristown Memorial Hospital – New Jersey (2)
Mount Carmel Health – Ohio (2)
Muhlenberg Red Medical Center – New Jersey (2)
Nassau University Medical Center – New York
New York Hospital Center – Queens
New York Hospital Medical Center of Queens
New York Medical College of Brooklyn/Queens (4)
New York Methodist Hospital – New York
Newark Beth Israel Medical Center – New Jersey
Northwestern McGaw/Evanston Northwestern Healthcare – Illinois
Oakwood Hospital – Michigan
Orlando Regional Healthcare – Florida
Palmetto Health Richland – South Carolina (2)
Raritan Bay Medical Center – New Jersey
Richmond University Medical Center – New York
Roger William Medical Center – Rhode Island
San Juan VA Medical Center – Puerto Rico (2)
Santa Barbara Cottage Hospital – California (2)
St. John Hospital – Michigan
St. Joseph’s Hospital – Arizona
St. Joseph Mercy-Ann Arbor – Michigan
St. Lukes-Roosevelt – New York (3)
St. Vincent’s Hospital – New York (7)
St. Vincent Hospital Center – Indiana (3)
St. Vincent Mercy Medical Center – Ohio
Stamford Hospital/Columbia – Connecticut
State University of New York Health Sciences Center, Brooklyn – New York
State University of New York Upstate Medical University
University Hospital – Jackson, Mississippi
University of Arizona Affiliated Hospitals
University of California, San Francisco – Fresno, California
University of Connecticut Health Center (2)
University of Florida College of Medicine – Jacksonville (3)
University of Hawaii
University of Kansas School of Medicine – Kansas City
University of Massachusetts Medical School
University of Medicine and Dentistry of New Jersey-New Jersey Medical – Newark
University of Medicine and Dentistry of New Jersey-Robert Wood Johnson – Camden
University of Miami/JFK Medical Center – Florida
University of Nevada School of Medicine –Reno
University of Oklahoma College of Medicine – Tulsa (2)
University of South Florida College of Medicine – Tampa (2)
University of Southern California (4)
University of Texas Medical Branch – Galveston (2)
University of Utah Affiliated Hospitals
Washington Hospital Center – Washington, D.C. (2)
West Suburban Medical Center –Illinois (2)
West Virginia University School of Medicine
Westlake Hospital – Illinois
Wright State University Boonshoft School of Medicine – Ohio
Internal Medicine – Emergency Medicine
Allegheny General Hospital – Pennsylvania
Internal Medicine – Pediatrics
Tulane University School of Medicine – Louisiana
University at Buffalo – New York
University of South Florida College of Medicine – Tampa
Wright State University Boonshoft School of Medicine – Ohio (2)
Internal Medicine – Preliminary
Allegheny General Hospital – Pennsylvania
Einstein/Jacobi Medical Center – New York
Jewish Hospital –Ohio
Maimonides Medical Center – New York (3)
Maricopa Medical Center – Arizona (2)
Medical College of Wisconsin Affiliated Hospitals
Mt. Sinai School of Medicine – Elmhurst, New York (3)
New York Hospital/Medical Center – Queens (2)
Norwalk Hospital – Connecticut
St. Joseph Mercy-Ann Arbor – Michigan
State University of New York Upstate Medical University
Staten Island University Hospital – New York (3)
University of Nevada School of Medicine – Reno
Westchester Medical Center – New York
Internal Medicine –Preliminary/ Neurology
University of Medicine and Dentistry of New Jersey – Newark
Internal Medicine – Primary
Brookdale Hospital Medical Center – New York
Staten Island University Hospital – New York (2)
University of Alabama Medical Center – Montgomery
Internal Medicine – Psychiatry
University of Kansas School of Medicine – Kansas City
Neurology
Albany Medical Center Hospital – New York
Obstetrics and Gynecology
Aultman Hospital/NEOUCOM – Ohio
Bridgeport Hospital – Connecticut
Brooklyn Hospital Center – New York
Danbury Hospital – Connecticut
Drexel University College of Medicine – Pennsylvania
Franklin Square Hospital – Maryland
George Washington University – Washington, D.C.
Henry Ford Hospital Health System – Michigan
Long Island Coll. Hospital – New York
Louisiana State University Health Sciences Center – Louisiana
Oakwood Hospital – Michigan (2)
Providence Hospital – Michigan
Queens Hospital/Mt. Sinai – New York
St. F r a n c i s Hospital – Connecticut
St. Vincent’s Hospital – New York
State University of New York Upstate Medical University (2)
University at Buffalo – New York
Washington Hospital Center – Washington, D.C.
Orthopedic Surgery
New York Medical College of Brooklyn/Queens
University of South Alabama Hospitals
Pathology
Case Western/Metrohealth Medical Center – Ohio
Louisiana State University School of Medicine – New Orleans, Louisiana
Loyola University Medical Center – Illinois
Medical College of Wisconsin Affiliated Hospitals
University of Kansas School of Medicine – Kansas City
Virginia Commonwealth University Health System
Pediatrics
Case Western/Metro Health Medical Center – Ohio (2)
Louisiana State University Health Sciences Center – Shreveport, Louisiana
Louisiana State University School of Medicine – New Orleans
Memorial Health University Medical Center – Georgia (2)
Nassau University Medical Center – New York (2)
North Shore Long Island Jewish Health System – New York
Pitt County Memorial Hospital/Brody School of Medicine – North Carolina
Southern Illinois University School of Medicine and Affiliated Hospitals
State University of New York Health Sciences Center – Brooklyn, New York (2)
State University of New York Upstate Medical University
University at Buffalo – New York
University of California, San Francisco – Fresno, California (2)
University of Florida College of Medicine – Jacksonville
University of Florida College of Medicine – Shands Hospital
University of Illinois-St. ******* Medical Center
University of Kansas School of Medicine – Kansas City (2)
University of Maryland Medical Center
University of Nevada Affiliated Hospitals – Las Vegas
University of South Alabama Hospitals (2)
University of Tennessee College of Medicine – Chatta
Winthrop University Hospital – New York (3)
Pediatrics – Primary
Albany Medical Center Hospital – New York
Maimonides Medical Center – New York
Pediatrics/Psych/Child Psych.
Tulane University School of Medicine – Louisiana
Physical Medicine and Rehabilitation
Pitt County Memorial Hospital/Brody School of Medicine – North Carolina
Rush University Medical Center – Illinois
University of Arkansas – Little Rock
University of South Florida College of Medicine – Tampa
Psychiatry
East Tennessee State University
John Peter Smith Hospital – Texas
Louisiana State University Health Sciences Center – Shreveport, Louisiana
Michigan State University – Kalamazoo
Pitt County Memorial Hospital/Brody School of Medicine – North Carolina
St. Vincent’s Hospital – New York
State University of New York Upstate Medical University
Temple University Hospital – Pennsylvania
University of Medicine and Dentistry of New Jersey – Robert Wood Johnson Central State Hospital – Piscataway
University of Medicine and Dentistry of New Jersey – Robert Wood Johnson Hospital – Camden
University of Nevada Affiliated Hospitals – Las Vegas
University of Nevada School of Medicine – Reno
University of South Florida College of Medicine – Tampa
University of Southern California
University of Vermont College of Medicine/Fletcher Allen – Vermont
West Virginia University School of Medicine
Westchester Medical Center – New York
Wright State University Boonshoft School of Medicine – Ohio
Yale-New Haven Hospital – Connecticut
Radiology – Diagnostic
University of Missouri – Kansas City Programs
Surgery
Brooklyn Hospital Center – New York
Guthrie/Robt Packer – Pennsylvania
Huron Hospital Cleveland Clinic Health System – Ohio
Lankenau Hospital – Pennsylvania
Louisiana State University Health Sciences Center – Shreveport, Louisiana
Maricopa Medical Center – Arizona
Marshfield/St. Joseph’s – Wisconsin
Our Lady of Mercy Medical Center – New York
Seton Hall University Graduate Medical Education – New Jersey
St. Elizabeth/NEOUCOM – Ohio
St. Joseph Mercy-Oakland – Michigan
St. Mary’s Hospital – Connecticut
University at Buffalo – New York
University of Kansas School of Medicine – Kansas City
Surgery – Preliminary
Carolinas Medical Center – North Carolina
Good Samaritan – Cincinnati, Ohio
Maimonides Medical Center – New York
Mayo School of Graduate Medical Education – Minnesota (2)
Michigan State University – Kalamazoo
Mt. Sinai Hospital – New York
Nassau University Medical Center – New York
New York Medical College of Brooklyn/Queens
Orlando Regional Healthcare – Florida
St. John’s Hospital – Michigan
St. Joseph’s Hospital – Arizona
St. Joseph Mercy-Oakland – Michigan
St. Vincent’s Hospital – New York
Stamford Hospital/Columbia – Connecticut
University of Southern California
Wake Forest Baptist Medical Center – North Carolina
Waterbury Hospital – Connecticut (2)
Transitional Year
Conemaugh Memorial – Pennsylvania
Detroit Medical Center Corporation – Michigan (2)
Marshfield/St. Joseph’s – Wisconsin
St. Joseph Mercy-Oakland – Michigan
Vascular Surgery

Mt. Sinai Hospital – New York

strongy16 · #2 (**permalink**) 04-14-2008, 04:47 PM

Students have to send in their match information to ROSS. It isn't automatically sent to them, so if students don't report it, it isn't incorporated into the list, that's why the numbers are a bit lower.

singer · #3 (**permalink**) 04-15-2008, 07:34 AM

The Match is only once a year in March so the results reflect three semesters. You must remember that anyone who pre-matched or matched in specialties outside of the normal Match prcoess would have to send their info to Ross in order to appear on the list.

rokshana · #4 (**permalink**) 04-15-2008, 08:11 AM

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Originally Posted by strongy16

Students have to send in their match information to ROSS. It isn't automatically sent to them, so if students don't report it, it isn't incorporated into the list, that's why the numbers are a bit lower.

i thought Ross bought the NRMP list now...

Scott1981 · #5 (**permalink**) 04-15-2008, 08:17 AM

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Originally Posted by rokshana

i thought Ross bought the NRMP list now...

im pretty sure ross did, as auc did as well. however, prematches (and there always are quite a few of them) will always need to be reported the old fashioned way.

thomasfx10 · #6 (**permalink**) 04-15-2008, 10:04 AM

Say the 459 is accurate and we use a 10% variable for pre-matched ....

From the website it says the class sizes are 350 students

3 (Sem.) X 350 = 1050

Lets say there is a 30-40% dropout rate from start to finish ... 315 - 420 students drop out per year ... (At least from what I have read in here)

1050 - 315 = 735 (30% Drop out)
1050 - 420 = 630 (40% Drop out)

Match List 459 + 10% pre-matched = 505 Students

That gives the Match rate between 69% - 80% Approx.

I know there are a lot of variables ... If anyone knows some hard facts please fill in the blanks

Thoughts?

rokshana · #7 (**permalink**) 04-15-2008, 03:04 PM

i would say you need to up the prematching rate- at sgu it s~30%- i would think Ross would be on about the same level.

Diegodoc · #8 (**permalink**) 04-16-2008, 11:08 AM

I started in May 2004, and matched on schedule. I will tell you our class size was no where near 350. In my 5th semester class there were 133 people on the class roster and this included transfer students. So I would say the numbers are a little off. There were alot of prematches in my class as well, some of which have been reported and some have not. I don't know the percentage of those who matched, but i would say that if you pass step 1 on the first attempt, have good interviewing skills, and are not trying for any of the uber competetive specialties, you will match. Of the people I know who did not match they either had failed a step (some multiple times) or had mediocre scores and were going for a very competetive specialty.

Hope that helps

thomasfx10 · #9 (**permalink**) 04-16-2008, 04:11 PM

That is good news ... That means the 2008 Match is closer to 80-90%

Why do you think so many people dropped out? Even if you started in the high two hundreds that is like a 50% drop out rate.

Thanks

UnknownHero · #10 (**permalink**) 04-16-2008, 08:29 PM

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Originally Posted by thomasfx10

That is good news ... That means the 2008 Match is closer to 80-90%

Why do you think so many people dropped out? Even if you started in the high two hundreds that is like a 50% drop out rate.

Thanks

1st Semester, 1st Mini. That's the simplest explanation. I'd say about 5-10% don't even make it that far, they try living here for two weeks and go home, but most of the rest of the dropouts occur because they fail Biochem on that first mini or Physiology on the 3rd. The rest is trickle: a handful in second, a larger amount in third, and basically no one in 4th. Then a group no one can really tell the size of can't pass the Comp or the Step after 3 times. With them changing the grading policies to where every semester stands on its own (they used to average 1st and 2nd, and then again with 3rd and 4th) I think it'll even out, but 1st will still be the worst.

Ross will never tell you the dropout rate from admission to match, but 50% is a believable number.