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Old 01-19-2008, 08:46 AM
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"Is there anyway of knowing how the transition to other schools is like?"
Try checking out the other forums, like AUA and St. Matthews and post to see if any former Ross students have advice on the transition. Since they take a lot of Ross students, I don't think it would be that rough of a transition.

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I mean, do they find getting loans ok, is it wise to transfer your grades from Ross, or if I start now, will they be able to accomadate me so late in the semester?
If the application asks you about your grades, then put them down, never hide you went to Ross, lying can really hurt you, honesty can take you really far, and people really appreciate honesty. There's nothing to be ashamed of.

I wish you the best of luck and hang in there.

I don't know if they can accomodate you in the middle of the semester, but it wouldn't hurt putting in an application right now and seeing what they say, who knows maybe they will let you transfer 1st and 2nd semester. It's worth a try at least.
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Old 01-19-2008, 09:09 AM
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I am assuming the reasons you are being dismissed are academic?

You may want to take the time to consider exactly WHY you were not able to perform as well at Ross compared to your past academic achievements. If you know the reason right away and transferring to another school will solve the problem, by all means, do it. If you are not quite sure of the reasons, and you tried as hard as you could at Ross, you should seriously consider looking at an alternative career, unless you can analyze the last 2 or 3 semesters and pinpoint your issues.

I say this not to be mean, but because transferring to another school isn't always the answer. You are still going to need to learn the same material, and pass the same boards. It is an expensive venture. If you go to another school, and are dismissed once again, you have a barrel full of debt that you are going to have a very difficult time paying off. I do wish you the best in whatever you choose to do. G
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I am assuming the reasons you are being dismissed are academic?

You may want to take the time to consider exactly WHY you were not able to perform as well at Ross compared to your past academic achievements. If you know the reason right away and transferring to another school will solve the problem, by all means, do it. If you are not quite sure of the reasons, and you tried as hard as you could at Ross, you should seriously consider looking at an alternative career, unless you can analyze the last 2 or 3 semesters and pinpoint your issues.

I say this not to be mean, but because transferring to another school isn't always the answer. You are still going to need to learn the same material, and pass the same boards. It is an expensive venture. If you go to another school, and are dismissed once again, you have a barrel full of debt that you are going to have a very difficult time paying off. I do wish you the best in whatever you choose to do. G
Students that were dismissed from Ross tend to be towards the top of the class at AUA. The adjustment to Dominica is a lot harder than to the other islands and sometimes it can present itself even after being there for 2 or more semesters. If you are one of those students that studies all the time and still you feel stressed out all the time and feel as if you just can't make the grade no matter how hard you try, then transferring could be the answer. HOWEVER, if you are the type of student that goes out all the time and only studies a few hours a day and takes the rest of the day off, THEN you may want to consider another path.
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Also, the method of teaching may be more atuned to raphael's study habits at another school.

I don't necessarily think all schools are created equal, some are integrated, some are not, some are fast paced, some aren't.

To just toss in the towel so soon is rather sad to me, I think raphael should examine his habits but not necessarily not go elsewhere just because he cannot find what happened, instead his study habit at Ross may not even be remotely correct for another school and he needs to revamp things.

I say go full force with it and don't give up.
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Thank you guys for your help. The reality is that my study habits were bad and a lot of it was due to personal reasons which I related to the committee, but they didn't think that I would change. The thing is that coming out of Undergraduate, I probably didn't have the correct mindset to study medicine. Now I feel like I've learned my lesson and I want to go at it "full force."

Mostly, I'm confused on how to apply to AUA and its the weekend so the offices are closed. I see that there is an online application, but what do I say with regards to where I went to school and the box that says "questions and comments". Also, will they even accept me?
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Also, the method of teaching may be more atuned to raphael's study habits at another school.

I don't necessarily think all schools are created equal, some are integrated, some are not, some are fast paced, some aren't.

To just toss in the towel so soon is rather sad to me, I think raphael should examine his habits but not necessarily not go elsewhere just because he cannot find what happened, instead his study habit at Ross may not even be remotely correct for another school and he needs to revamp things.

I say go full force with it and don't give up.
No, all schools are not created equally. There are good professors and bad professors. As is often the case in the situations, people know exactly why they failed out. It is unlikely that a person could do poorly at one school, and go on to do extremely well at another without a major change in their approach to med school. There is a huge amount of material to assimilate in a relatively short period of time, and that doesn't vary from school to school. It is my opinion that if a person is not able to identify and rectify the problem areas, then they will likely fail at another school. I've been watching people do this long enough to be fairly confident that this is the case. Med school is very expensive. Once you get to a certain point in debt, you almost have to make a doctor's salary to afford your loans. Believe me, I know.

That being said, the OP seems to know exactly why he/she did not do well at Ross, and that is a very good first step to ensuring that they will have success during the next go-round.
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Exclamation Ross is stressful

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Students that were dismissed from Ross tend to be towards the top of the class at AUA. The adjustment to Dominica is a lot harder than to the other islands and sometimes it can present itself even after being there for 2 or more semesters. If you are one of those students that studies all the time and still you feel stressed out all the time and feel as if you just can't make the grade no matter how hard you try, then transferring could be the answer. HOWEVER, if you are the type of student that goes out all the time and only studies a few hours a day and takes the rest of the day off, THEN you may want to consider another path.

Very well said Islandthrift . Ross is a stressful place , the island , school , and the teaching . The ross kids study hard and they get burnt out quickly ...studying all the packets to be tested on nitty gritty details fosters study habits that make many students forget the big picture .
Most ross students are extremely anxious and stressed . From the day we arrive in dominica , our ears are used to " fail , fail , fail " . I can see how nervous , anxious and unstable students will not make it .

Again , from personal experience over the years , I know of friends who failed badly at Ross and flourished at AUA , passed the usmle and are either matching or close to matching in a Residency ( no not radiology nor derm ) ...but in the end they have achieved their dream .

I am VERY proud of them !
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Ross's main source of sustenance is students that don't make it to clinicals... its designed for a large incoming class with a high attrition rate, other schools may use a different business philosophy. Ross can structure itself the way it does because it is well known and provides a medical education. Other schools, not as well known, want you to make to clinicals... they dont have the applicant pool that Ross does.

They too will provide a medical education...
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Ross's main source of sustenance is students that don't make it to clinicals... its designed for a large incoming class with a high attrition rate, other schools may use a different business philosophy. Ross can structure itself the way it does because it is well known and provides a medical education. Other schools, not as well known, want you to make to clinicals... they dont have the applicant pool that Ross does.

They too will provide a medical education...

no , thats not true . Ross loses money when it loses students . They also lose bragging rights to the number of graduates they produced . Attrition is a bad thing for any school .
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Dear anyone who knows the answer,

I'm not sure I really understand this "liscencing" thing. I had heard that Ross was licensced in all 50 states, but I'm not exactly sure I had understood that. I had thought if you do well on your boards and you go into rotations you can practice anywhere. Does anyone know what that means for people in AUA? I'm sorry guys, I'm just in a really confused state, and it feels like things are moving really fast. I just want to make sure I'm making the best descision.
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