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Originally Posted by RossMD2006
Real mature. Calling ppl idiots on an anonymous forum. Moderator please warn this PGY1 stud for name calling. I stopped that after I left elementary school my friend.
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I will say it again. If you think that Ross clinical departemnt is going to jump up and fight a state board to fix a problem they put you in you have either; A) never dealt with them, or B) you can't read what has been said over and over on these message boards. And that makes you either A)incredibly naive or B)an idiot. Don't waste your time calling Ross yelling and screaming because a state board is questioning your rotations and Ross needs to fix it. They don't have that pull. And more importantly a few disgruntled people in Chicago will not keep Ross from getting 10x more applications than they have spots every semester.
That's the bottom line regardless of what words you use to say it.
And I am not saying it to berrate people. I am saying it so the next group that comes through hopefully does not make the same mistakes. Again it is hard enough getting good residencies being an IMG. You don't need to instantly scratch a few states, and all the programs in that state, off your list before ERAS even opens up.
Jobs I had before medical school allowed me to have access to some people in Chicago's medical community. I asked and they advised against JP because of the afiliation through so and so, and because so and so is greenbook under a third cousin of someones uncle. The further the institution is from an actual residency program in that specialty with residents on site, the further you want to stay away from it. I don't care what MM, JP, NP, DF or whoever the current person is spinning the Ross tales of lore says. And I know it is not always possible to toally avoid them, but do as little as you have to at these kinds of places.
When I went to Miami a Ross grad doing a lecture spent 20 mintues answering questions about clerkships. He spent a good 5 minutes just warning us about the bad clinical places Ross will send you to, if you let them, and how that can have an effect on your chances of getting a good residency. He strangely did not give that talk to any of the following groups. The very next day in the big lecture hall Dr. F spent a lot of time assuring everyone that the very places being talked about here, on this thread, are all Greenbook because they are covered by some crazy interlocking umbrella system. This a month after I was told to be wary of them by the head of a large medical department in Chicago and a day after one of our own grads gave the same warning. I have classmates who did not get close to what they wanted because they followed the piper. They are idiots for listening to the Ross party line and I say it to their faces whenever the topic comes up.
I have told every person along the way what I was told but here are some people again that have been painted into a corner. Because of timing I know that some of the people affected by this crossed paths with me or paths with someone I passed this info on to. So I will use whatever words or language I can to get people to listen and avoid these mistakes. I remember one person who explained how the things I was talking about were not a problem, she sounding like the Ross pull string talking doll. MM did the voice, she has a nice voice.
Anyone that feels I have offended them go right ahead and PM me and chew me out. I will be glad to give you that platform. But don't come on the board acting like you are a victim when anyone who is paying attention can see they need to be careful when doing clerkships at Ross. There are too many threads saying that very thing.
And maybe there is not a problem with most states right now but that could all change at any time just like, if the info in this thread is true, it is in IL. Any state can change their policy when they see fit. There are plenty of Ross places that don't look very good once put under a microscope. I know because even busting my hump to avoid them I ended up in a couple myself.
Ross is selling the product they have, remember, let the buyer beware.
And as for RossMD2006, if you think using the word idiot on this site is terrible, you are living a very sheltered life.
Greetings form the other side, PGY-1
08-01-2007, 10:44 AM
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