Hmmm...that's very interesting...thanks for posting and informing me.

Yes, Ross definitely has problems with certain rotations but like you said, it is the price we pay for a foreign education and we are still fortunate to be able to have a choice as to where we go for clinical rotations. Sometimes it involves a lot of moving around but after having spoken with several MUA and SABA students, we are still fortunate that we don't have to do as much moving around. I think AUC and St. George's still are able to place their students a lot better without moving them around so much.

Good luck..I hope something works out for you.

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If this is true then Ross just lost its #1 clinical rotation factory. Must have hundreds of Ross students there at one time. It allowed my son to have an easy commute and JR always gave him all the electives he desired in the time period he needed. Thank heaven he us graduating on Friday.;

As a concerned parent like FRNC I only hope that more parents will get involved and find out what is going on with the clinical rotations. Fortunatly my son didn't haveto go back to Dominica to do Peds or Ob/gyn. That would have added additional; expenses above the $200,000 he already spent.

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I seriously can not understand how Devry is allowing ross to fall so behind on its clinical sites...thats one of the biggest selling point of Ross...its loosing all hte ones they advertise one by one.

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comparing Ross clinicals to SGU clinicals is a waste of time. SGU is SUPERIOR to Ross when it comes to clinicals.

P.P. is an ignorant moron. All he does is take up space. If he was not N.P.'s brother he would've been fired a long time ago. He is completely incompetent.

It's sad to say but it seems that even my friends at AUC have better clinical sites and a more efficient clinical department than Ross.

I always thought PP was NP's husband not brother.... Does anyone else feel like he's rushing them off the phone when they call?

It's true.......the clinical dept is really going under.....! I mean, think about it - they have, what - a total of 5 clinical advisors for about 3,000 students? I'm not going to say that rusm is a POS place to go to med school......because let's face it........ we're all here. BUT at the same time, we are making these people MILLIONAIRES with our $$$$$$$ for tuition, and they can't even provide enough spots for clinical rotations!?! Something needs to change.

And as far as PP rushing you off the phone.........geez.....ur lucky to even GET him on the phone in the first place. I have personally been trying to call jp for 2 months. No luck yet.....

A guy I know passed Step 1 with a great score (230+). P.P. only gave him two cores, stating that the schedule was full. My friend, completely frustrated after numerous unanswered emails and calls to P.P., wrote N.P. and long letter. The next day P.P. sent him his complete 3rd-year schedule, back-to-back with little gaps (this was 3 years ago when Ross didn't have this clinical logjam problem). My friend went on to match ortho.

Again, P.P. is completely incompetent and should not be working in the clinical department.

Have they lost another site?

The real shame is that students should be happy to be losing spots at Wyckoff. Wyckoff is a ***** of a hospital. The entire environment there is tense. From attendings to cafeteria cashieres, everyone has a smart mouth and is lazy and rude beyond belief. Those caribbean nurses wouldn't last one day in any of the upscale hospitals around the country. Heck, even modest regional hospitals would throw them on their cans. Unfortunately Ross students don't have the choice to be selective. They are forced to use dumps like Wyckoff because of over crowding. I certainly have come to realize that many people don't expect anything out of the hospitals they are paying, don't expect any teaching to be done and that it is all upon the student to make do their rotations. But is that what you really think should be the system. If so, why have medical school at all? Why go to classes? Why not just take students with the current acceptance criteria from college, give them books, maybe throw in a Kaplan course, take the boards, and see what happens? Think about all the time wasted at Wyckoff during so many rotations. Those surgery students staying all night to do the nurses work....could they be home studying for Step 2? Let's be honest. Nothing you do at Wyckoff hospital is going to be better for you regarding Step 2 than plain studying. Doing USMLEWorld, Kaplan videos...etc...that's what will get you past the exams, not sitting around with a PA cleaning wounds. Internship gives you PLENTY of opportunities to learn how to do procedures properly and how to act like you kinda know what you're doing. We don't need to work holidays and weekends as paying students to learn what it will be like to be a resident. College students don't attend classes on weekends or holidays but they are well aware that their future employers might insist they do so. Students are just that...students. Experience is a necessity but while they are still required to take exams just to get through the door, taking up all their time with mundane, irrelevant tasks is moronic. Wyckoff abuses students to a point of absurdity. They are used as temp. employees..but without pay. That ridiculous ED. Director even makes it a point to say 'we know you're not employees of this hospital' at orientation. He almost has a smirk when he says it. 'If we can't provide you with a place to sleep...then you are free to leave at 10pm' Hahahahahah....I'd like to know ONE student who has been able to use that without any trouble! I'll get the standard response to this too....."Chill dude, just do your time and get out of there"..or " you are provided with the opportunity to learn...it's up to you to make it worthwhile". Well, I am paying for it..but I can't decide what's best. I'm mature enough to know that sitting around all night checking vital signs or updating the census is not the most productive way to use my time. Now you pay me..and I'll make time to do those tasks. But for now..you owe me some teaching. Is that how it works? Of course not. We have to follow like cattle or simply be hung out to dry. So ask yourself...is Wyckoff giving you what you paid for? If not, what are you going to do about it? Just a thought.

yea, i agree but i think that Wyckoff is better than the Dominica option that the clinical department is handing students on a silver platter