Thread: Need helping deciding between sgu and ross

i got accepted to both sgu and ross and am having a really hard time deciding between the two. i have read a lot of forums and compared sites regarding both schools...they both seem comparable. i know that it normally depends on the student, but im sure that the school is also a factor in the success of the student (in terms of facilitating the process). the biggest issue is the supposed extra 40k that sgu charges for tuition in comparison to ross, but i am willing to pay for it if sgu is better. Could anyone help and answer these questions for me? please.....

1.) how is the school in terms of helping you get your desired clinical rotations? which set of hospitals are better in preparing you for step 2 and providing LORs (cuz we need them for residencies?)? i read a horror story about a ross student missing a rotation and getting extremely screwed over...

2.) how is residency looking for ross students?

3.) what are the usmle step 1 and 2 pass rates for ross? it seems that sgu and ross are pretty much the same and is more or less based on the student...

4.) is there time between basic science courses and clinical rotations to study for step 1?

5.) living lifestyle...standard of living?

questions listed in order of importance and all in comparison to sgu. helpful posts only please!

Originally Posted by Shah_Patel_PT

I think you need to learn how to read a balance sheet.

Devry make more that than just several millions of dollars...

http://finance.yahoo.com/q/ks?s=DV


And for those of you in the business world, here are the top stock holders in the company:

http://finance.yahoo.com/q/mh?s=DV


So I reiterate again, that an instution's financial status does have an advantage. Out of all the caribbean schools I believe that Ross has the most financial clout, and has used it on various occasions, eg. during the Texas problems in 03-04...

i may not know much about reading financial crap.
But I think even a half retard can make some sense of the balance sheet laid out plainly here:
http://finance.yahoo.com/q/**?s=DV&annual

what are the net assets?

http://finance.yahoo.com/q/is?s=DV&annual
What does net income mean?

as someone who doesn't know, I ask you- is devry really a multiBILLION dollar company?

Agree DeVry may be multibillion $ corp. but is it choosing to spend those $$$ on Ross school? Sure in case of disaster emergencies it's good to be capable to send several relief ships. But disaster emergency are rare, hence their nomenclature. SGU seems to put more $$$ into the school while DeVry's cash sheet is bigger and input into school may be less.

when you check out devry's programs, they don't offer MD program from ross.

http://www.devry.edu/programs/overview.jsp

The highest program they offer is a master program.

Originally Posted by popozao

i may not know much about reading financial crap.
But I think even a half retard can make some sense of the balance sheet laid out plainly here:
http://finance.yahoo.com/q/**?s=DV&annual

what are the net assets?

http://finance.yahoo.com/q/is?s=DV&annual
What does net income mean?

as someone who doesn't know, I ask you- is devry really a multiBILLION dollar company?

Have you seen that line in small font in the top right of the balance sheet that says "All numbers in thousands"

Does that change your thought?

Originally Posted by Shah_Patel_PT

Have you seen that line in small font in the top right of the balance sheet that says "All numbers in thousands"

Does that change your thought?

no. i didn't miss that. i'm not that stupid. what are you trying to say?
tack on 3 zero's..
and it's still not a billion.

net yearly income is still only several million dollars
as i said before. how much did you think it earned??

Originally Posted by popozao

no. i didn't miss that. i'm not that stupid. what are you trying to say?
tack on 3 zero's..
and it's still not a billion.

net yearly income is still only several million dollars
as i said before. how much did you think it earned??

There gross revenue for f/y ended 2005 was over $750 millon dollars. Its mot in the Billions but it isn't chicken feed.

I was just gonna let this roll but I can't take it anymore. First off you don't measure a company's worth from profit, operating revenue, gross revenue and whatever have you. A company's (publically traded) worth is determine by its Market Capitalization. DeVry's market cap as at the end of trading today (8/9/06) is in excess of $1.5Bil. What does that have to do with Ross? Perhaps very little but if we are going to be debating finances, we might as well do it correctly. http://finance.aol.com/quotes/devry-...dquotes?freq=1.

As for billion dollar profits, less than 25% of all the top 2000 large companies in the world had them (last year's figures, I believe). http://www.forbes.com/lists/2006/18/...2000_Prof.html

Oh by the way, Apollo Education Group - owner of the University of Phoenix and the largest for-profit education system in the US - had only $470mil in profit (according to Forbes' list) and it can swallow DeVry several times over.

pssst....go with SGU. We've lost good professors to AUA.

Originally Posted by popozao

no. i didn't miss that. i'm not that stupid. what are you trying to say?
tack on 3 zero's..
and it's still not a billion.

net yearly income is still only several million dollars
as i said before. how much did you think it earned??

Dude...why are you making stuff up? I NEVER said anywhere that Ross has a billion+ yearly profit.

I only stated the following:
"Devry make more that than just several millions of dollars..."

We can all agree that 600 million + surely means that!