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Old 05-14-2006, 09:11 PM
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Ross will never be fair

who are the shareholders at Ross University?

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Old 05-14-2006, 09:45 PM
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Old 05-14-2006, 09:46 PM
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Ross is rusty!!!!
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Shareholders? Ross is owned by Devry University... a for-profit enterprise which paid in excess of $300M for the school.... why does anything surprise you? lol
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Old 05-14-2006, 10:29 PM
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Sareholder information re. DeVry Inc. can be found at:
http://www.investors.devry.com/phoen...&p=irol-irhome

Shares are currently selling for $24.50.
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Old 05-14-2006, 10:52 PM
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Dru, who are you?

I have to find out the best way to resolve my issue with Ross. I don't wanna just come to a public forum and raise some serious allegations about Ross. I really want to know the best way to handle this matter. Thanks in advance and God bless you all.
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Ross University andxxxxxxxxx

The White Nile joins the Blue Nile in Khartoum, Sudan. From them, the Great Nile emerges, roaring towards the North. A few miles north is the city of Omdurman. This is where I was born and attended my first twelve years of public school. During my high school summer vacation, I chose to travel through the expanded lands of western and eastern Sudan, and to live and interact with the vast majority of the tribes inhabiting the area. Love and admiration and a lifelong interest in traveling and anthropology were what I brought upon returning to Omdurman. It was in my last year in high school that, desertification and famine were striking hard in western Sudan, killing, displacing and disrupting the tribes I had grown to love. My beloved people were forced to seek refuge on the Nile, a week’s journey on foot from their native land in the west. Refugee camps were set up around the city of Omdurman. Many fresh short graves were scattered around the camps. I witnessed some of the mothers who lost all their children along their miserable journey. My frustration at the sense of helplessness and inability to save those malnourished children was over whelming.
Doctors without Borders main offices were not far from my high school. They helped restore my hope for the tribes by providing immediate medical care, saving lives and educating local health care providers. I was enlightened, fascinated and inspired by the fact that they helped all people regardless of country, religion or race. Doctors without Borders became the main focus of my life. Throughout my childhood a Chinese missionary doctor treated me. The memory of his compassion coming through his broken Arabic stays with me vividly to this day. Since then international humanitarian medicine became a cause I wanted to be a part of.
Before my seventeenth birthday, I left Sudan with two goals in mind, which were and still are to become a caring international medical doctor and eventually to join Doctors without Borders. I traveled from Sudan to Belgium. There I found the French language to be challenging however since most Doctors without Borders spoke it I found my self immersed and quickly adapted. I completed one year of French language and one academic year of pre-medical sciences at the Free University of Brussels, before the harsh weather exacerbated my asthma and the unfamiliarity and difficulty of the French system forced me to leave Belgium for Washington D.C. There I completed one academic year of pre-medical sciences at the University of the District of Columbia. While at the University of the District of Columbia, I discovered through an advertisement that there was a medical school in the island of Dominica, West Indies, called Ross University School of medicine that was recognized by the world Health organization (WHO). The advertisement further stated that the school has clinical training in teaching hospitals in the United States, United Kingdom, and the West Indies. I will never forget the thrill of my expectation to complete my basic medical science curriculum in Dominica, rotate in American teaching hospitals, complete a three month rotation of tropical medicine at the London School of Hygiene and Tropical medicine, and then join Doctors without Borders. I applied to Ross University and was persuaded not to complete my undergraduate courses, because I could get accepted to the school based on the criteria of acceptance to medical schools in my home country. (A basic criterion of acceptance to Sudanese medical schools is finishing high school. Then you get enrolled in a six-year medical program in which “the first two years is the pre-medical curriculum”). During my interview I expressed my concerns about the status of my F-1 student Visa if I left the United States to attend an offshore school. My interviewer promised me that upon successful completion of my basic medical curriculum I would be granted a business Visa that would allow me to return to the United States to complete my clinical trainings at teaching hospitals. In May 1991, Ross University accepted me to enroll as a student in the semester beginning July 1991. My acceptance was based on the criteria of acceptance to medical school in Sudan.
Between1989 to 1991 Ross University accepted a number of international students into its medical school directly from high school, but the school did not have any pre-medical or English language preparatory programs. The international students were placed in an intensive medical program with American and Canadian students who held bachelor degrees or higher qualifications. Ninety- eight percent of the international students failed from the first semester as could be expected. The desperate young students were stuck in the island of Dominica; thousands of miles away from their homeland, unable to get the money they had spent to attend the school. Unfortunately, the majority of the international students were from Bangladesh, one of the world’s poorest country, and on desperate need of medical doctors. My compelling reason to include the international students in this matter is to show the similarity of our acceptance policy to the school and to voice that “our fate was the same.
When I arrived on the island of Dominica, its landscape and the smell of the tropic immediately took me. Soon I realized the politics of matriculation at a foreign medical school. Because I did not intend to practice medicine in the United States, and was already in love with the island and its people, I thought it would not bother me. I successfully completed my pre-clinical course curriculum in the four semesters, which was the time allotted. The school breached its promise in providing me with a business Visa as I was promised in my interview, as an immediate result of not obtaining my Visa I was unable to return to the United States or to Sudan for two months. This caused me tremendous pain and anguish. Ross University justified its inability to secure me a business Visa due to my inability to pay tuition at that time. I was unable to pay my tuition back then, because the Sudanese Commission of Education, who financed my involvement in the program, changed its policy regarding the funding of the education of Sudanese students studying abroad. Ross University did not meet the requisite standards of the Sudanese Commission of Education. The Sudanese Government discontinued funding my education after discovering that Ross University was not recognized by the American Medical Association, and its official letterhead was misleading to the effect that the Sudanese Government thought the School was located in New York City. The dean of the basic medical science in Dominica acknowledged that I was in the verge of becoming homeless and almost starving to death. Therefore he assisted me in getting a tourist Visa and told me that the school would assist me in getting a business Visa as soon as I started my clinical rotation. Finally, I returned to the United States, but soon I discovered that the school was not and would never be able to assist me in getting any type of Visa, because the school is considered by the Immigration and Naturalization Service as a foreign school and can not sponsor its foreign students to come to the United States and engage in any kind of education. Accordingly my life became very difficult in the United States.
I was in contact with the school on a regular basis to allow me to continue my education. Finally, the school agreed to let me continue my education without paying any tuition, but only under the condition that I locate my own clinical training sites. During that period of time the school had a very limited number of clinical training sites, which inversely correlated with the high number of students accepted to its program. The school mainly depended upon its students in expanding its affiliation with hospitals. After a tremendous effort, I was able to locate Prince George’s Hospital Center, a teaching institute in Cheverly, Maryland where I completed radiology elective with a grade of honors. While in my radiology rotation I established a good reputation and the chief of trauma surgery at the same hospital promised me that as soon as I completed my radiology rotation I could start surgery rotation with him. The school accepted that, but after completing seven weeks and four days (my grade was honors), the school forced me to stop, and immediately claimed the surgery department, and began to place its students in it in a regular basis. At that time I was able to pay my tuition, but the school continued to impede my progress in my medical education. I was consistently advised by the school to do my clinical trainings at non- teaching hospitals in Chicago, Illinois, but knowing the importance of doing my clinical training at teaching hospitals, I strongly refused. The school did not provide me with any clinical clerkship, except for a psychiatry rotation in Kansas City, Missouri, under the condition that I give up my opportunities of doing my rotations in pediatrics and obstetrics and gynecology in New York City. The dean of clinical sciences promised me that if I went to Kansas City and did psychiatry, I would be placed in a twelve weeks rotation in internal medicine in Jamaica hospital in New York. I knew the school needed to place some other students in my pediatrics and obstetrics and gynecology rotations in New York City and many students did not like to go to the Midwest for rotations. I accepted to go to Kansas City and do my psychiatry rotation for three reasons. Firstly, the school had a very limited number of hospitals where you could do the internal medicine core, and, secondly, there were many students who had finished their basic sciences and were waiting for clinical trainings placement. Finally, there was the thrill and excitement of discovering a new place. I completed my psychiatry rotation and my evaluation was superior. The dean of clinical sciences breached its promise in not providing me with the internal medicine core, pediatrics, and obstetrics and gynecology rotations. Again after a tremendous effort with the school I was allowed to complete a Pediatrics rotation at Prince George’s hospital and my grade was a pass.
The school continued to impede my progress in my education, and I was frustrated to see my classmates and many students from classes behind me rotating to hospitals where I was denied the same opportunity on many different occasions. I knew I had only one option and that was to locate hospitals where the school would see the possibility in sending its students. I went back to Kansas City, Missouri and began an intensive search for such hospitals, and finally I was able to locate Saint Luke’s Hospital, which is a primary teaching hospital of the University of Missouri - Kansas City School of Medicine. There I completed internal medicine core, with an elective in cardiology and research in cardiology at the nationally known Mid-America Heart Institute, general surgery, and thoracic surgery. My evaluation was honors in all my rotations at Saint Luke’s, except for a pass in thoracic surgery. I was welcomed to do my residency at their program.
During my rotation at Saint Luke’s Hospital, Ross University stopped me again from finishing my surgery rotation. Accordingly, the program’s associate dean, Dr. xxxxxxxxxxx wrote Ross University informing them about my distinctly above average job, and that my fund of knowledge exceeded that of the medical students who were on the service with me at that time. He further stated that because of their experience with me, they would be open to accept students from Ross University on the medicine services. I also wrote Ross University explaining to them the unfair treatment I had endured. Ross University did not respond to me or to Dr. Hall. The next thing I heard from them was my dismissal letter.
Throughmonths of intensive research, I came to the conclusion that Ross University dismissed me because my acceptance was based on the criteria of acceptance to Sudanese medical school, and I was the last one of the international students who made it that far. When the Department of Education’s National Commission for Medical Education and Accreditation was formed in 1994, U.S Secretary of Education Richard W. Riley underscore its role in assuring that federal students loans would “only go to foreign medical schools that provide a high quality education to its students.” Ross University definitely was not one of the schools that provide a high quality of education, but the school wanted badly to be one of them, so it could continue defrauding the U.S Government in getting millions of dollars in federal funds through the acceptance of high number of unqualified students to its program, and then get rid of them, or expect that many of them would not be able to make it far. The school conspired with some members of the New York Office for Civil Rights (OCR) in the Department of Education, and the Education Commission for foreign Medical Graduates (ECFMG), to achieve its goal in continuing to receive federal funds from the Department of Education, approval for clinical clerkships in New Jersey, and New York State Education Department’s approval to offer its full clinical program in New York. Ross University outrageously violated my civil rights on many different occasions and my dismissal was fraudulent. Through my litigation against the school, I was able to obtain some documentation and information that support my allegation against the school, the OCR in New York and ECFMG. The school continued to abuse me and violate my civil rights and make it impossible for me to pursue with my legal case. I dedicated my life for medicine, and to expose Ross University and its wrongdoing. I am aware of what you stand for and your involvement in the international medicine. I believe I have strong foundation in medicine and great initiative in research, and my experience with Ross University acquired me a different dimension of intelligence, and reality. I strongly miss the art of healing people, and I want to experience it again. After my dismissal, I went through stages of denial, anger, and frustration, but finally I was able to get my self together. I was fortunate to explore the area of electrophisyology of plants, molecular biology, and medicinal plants at North Carolina State University. I also completed seventy-two credit hours of sciences at ....... I am longing for the day that I will be part of your team, and I hope you will consider my complex biography, as a cry for help.
Thank you for your consideration. I remain yours truly,

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Old 05-15-2006, 09:57 AM
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what problem

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I have to find out the best way to resolve my issue with Ross. I don't wanna just come to a public forum and raise some serious allegations about Ross. I really want to know the best way to handle this matter. Thanks in advance and God bless you all.
Not knowing your problems with ROSS I beleive that there must be someone internally that you can speak to that will help resolve your problem or give you an honest answer.

Of course if the problems result from bad study habits or similiar types of instances then it is not the MEDICAL school that should be responsible to solve your problems. They can only give you ideas to help!
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Old 05-15-2006, 10:44 AM
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That is rough, but I fail to see how it is Ross' fault.
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