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Old 05-04-2006, 07:28 PM
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semester 1 and 2 aren't the hard semesters....

3 & 4 are the killers. it's information overload ^10 degree.

but what bkpride said is reasonable. I'd imagine sgu would take care of you. Ross has more of a careless attitude.

Does SGU have as many hurdles as ross? What is their fail policy? maybe someone can chime in.

Does SGU force you to pass the comp before registering for step 1? People shouldn't be forced to pass the comp 12-24 weeks before they take the actual Step. Ross students should be allowed to register for step 1, and then take the comp like 1 week prior to Step1, and if they don't pass, have their window extended.

Just one of the many hurdles. That is why I first said to consider applying elsewhere rather than going back to ross, because ross policies aren't favorable toward marginal students. (i'm not saying that failing students deserve to pass though.)
there is a comprehensive exam at the end of both 1st and 2nd years (BSC I and II) - a third of the class is guaranteed to fail BSCE I because the failis set at below 0.5 SD of the mean. The BSCE II is a 53% pass rate - it is comprehensive for both 1st and 2nd year material.
Passing BSCE II is a requirement for advancement to the clinical program (though passed USMLE Step I scores can be used in lieu and in NJ, as ya'll probably know, you need a passed USMLE score to start.
the criteria to be certified to sit for Step I is to have a gpa > 2.5, OR passed BSCE I, OR passed BSCE II- if you don't have one of these then you won't get certified.

we have letter grades - generally 10-point scale (90=A, 80=b, 70=C, <60= F)- there are classes that scale down (so in biochem 65 = a C in my term- this can vary from class to class)- sometimes all levels change, sometimes the "C"s are a bigger range.

people fail - 1st and 4th terms are usually the ones- 1st tends to be people who either weren't prepared for the workload or just didn't study enough(it IS a tropical island after all), 4th term generally is because the workload is just a killer)

failure of a class will get you a meeting in front of the academic progress committee(APC) - there they will recommend either dismissal or probation. Generally if you fail A class (or have a GPA <2.0- all "C"s) in the 1st term, the APC will recommend "decelling" - taking less classes - basically splitting a term into 2 terms. If a person habitually fails classes, then the recommendation will be for dismissal (there have been exceptions made, but that is probably the same everywhere!). It used to be that the if you were below 2.0 after 1st term - then the APC could forcefully decell you , but they've changed that rule.
SGU usually doesn't make you repeat the whole semester, just the class you fail. Also if you are in the alternate program due to decelling, then you will be required to attend Dept. of Educational Services (DES) tutor sessions and have plan of action to make sure you don't fail again.

If your GPA is <2.5 you are placed on academic probation- so you have to be careful, since failing a class while on probation will get you in front of APC- this won't come off until your GPA goes above 2.5.

so, i think failing a class is possible, failing OUT is not that much of a reality.

hope that helps !!
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yo bkpride, You said you that you didn't do well on the mcat nor undergrad so how did you overcome sem 1+2 at Ross?? Did you change your study habits or b/c the subject is just more straight forward???
Dicipline.Nothing else.

After class I ate then wents home and studied till 10.I watched tv from 10 to 11.I was in bed tv/lights out at 11.Every day 5 days a week.Studied from 8-8 saturday.Had the books on the couch sunday (my chill day).

Did this EXACT routine every day I was there.Strayed 2 times when I gots food poisining.Every week,every month.I had a flood,i dealt with it sunday.I would fill my used water bottles up wit tap water and store it up.Water goes out fo days,I used that.Power goes out I use candles and a cool rag.Never strayed from the rootine.

Remember this,yo,and you will pass in fo semesters,no prob.

My girl studied far more,is far more smarter than me and still hads to take BSMI.She laughed at me when she first saw my routine and said Id never makes it.Yo I laughed at her when I gots to Miami and I would call her.I also laughed at her when I passed step 1 and she was in Miami.Im still laughin cause I's in my last core and she just started.
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My girl studied far more,is far more smarter than me and still hads to take BSMI.She laughed at me when she first saw my routine and said Id never makes it.Yo I laughed at her when I gots to Miami and I would call her.I also laughed at her when I passed step 1 and she was in Miami.Im still laughin cause I's in my last core and she just started.

and she's still with you? she's got some thick skin.
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Would someone mind telling me what nbme comp is?
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I can't tell whether or not to take bkpride seriously. His posts are always entertaining, nonetheless.
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soo whats nmbe?

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its a comprehensive exam written after basic sciences are complete (after semester 4)..
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I pretty much studied every day like that as well. I thought 1st and 2nd semester were the tougher semesters. In 3rd and 4th it was a bunch of material but it was easy to sort out what and what not to know for the minis. I rarely partied and made it through semesters 1-5 first time around and passed Step 1 first time also. Just one more core to go (ob/gyn) and I'll be done with 3rd year. By the time you get to 3rd and 4th, you'll have figured out a way to study efficiently rather than try and know every single thing in the book. If you study hard, all you new guys will make it.

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After class I ate then wents home and studied till 10.I watched tv from 10 to 11.I was in bed tv/lights out at 11.Every day 5 days a week.Studied from 8-8 saturday.Had the books on the couch sunday (my chill day).

Did this EXACT routine every day I was there.Strayed 2 times when I gots food poisining.Every week,every month.I had a flood,i dealt with it sunday.I would fill my used water bottles up wit tap water and store it up.Water goes out fo days,I used that.Power goes out I use candles and a cool rag.Never strayed from the rootine.

Remember this,yo,and you will pass in fo semesters,no prob.

My girl studied far more,is far more smarter than me and still hads to take BSMI.She laughed at me when she first saw my routine and said Id never makes it.Yo I laughed at her when I gots to Miami and I would call her.I also laughed at her when I passed step 1 and she was in Miami.Im still laughin cause I's in my last core and she just started.
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it happens to be that i am in the same situation in an american school and they are kicking me out after 3 years! I failed a lot of my first year courses and faced the committee and they let me back in. okay then i passed everything and now 2 years later after finishing all the basic sciences well above expectations i failed one exam and it's goodbye!!
So my advice to you is that check their policy about the option of continuing in Ross. Even if you stay, if their policy is that one more exam kicks u out, then it's a set up for disaster later (when you are even more in debt!). Good Luck!
P.S. I put up a thread about what happened to me and I am looking for advice about what my options are. Please help.
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