Prince George's Hospital Center, Cheverly

[onmyway]

Yes, it would not alleviate my fears either were I in that position. Seems like the regulation contemplates residency closure at a particular institution, not closure of the whole institution itself. If the latter happens, the contracts with residents may become part of a whole bunch of contractual obligations that are in line when a business shuts down. How a bankruptcy proceeding, which is one avenue the hospital is considering, would affect residency contracts is an interesting question too.

[summerwind]

Originally Posted by onmyway

Yes, it would not alleviate my fears either were I in that position. Seems like the regulation contemplates residency closure at a particular institution, not closure of the whole institution itself. If the latter happens, the contracts with residents may become part of a whole bunch of contractual obligations that are in line when a business shuts down. How a bankruptcy proceeding, which is one avenue the hospital is considering, would affect residency contracts is an interesting question too.

You bring up another good point. Where would the residents stand in terms of priority. How motivated to fulfil its obligations to its residents would a hospital looking at closure (bankruptcy) be?

[Daniel]

Originally Posted by summerwind

I agree. The information onmyway posted pertaining to residency closure would not alleviate my fears. It seems that all the sponsoring institution has to do is try to get the resident enrolled in another ACGME-accredited program.

Look at the residency programs that closed at Charles R Drew University. Residency programs in Anesthesia, Derm, FM, OB/GYN, Ortho, Peds, Psych, etc....talk to their former residents. I personally know of a few who openly stated that their respective programs did little to nothing to help them out.

They (the residents) had to research and find open spots around the country on their own...and once they did that...the respective programs would just come in and sign off on the deal.

Charles Drew Univ also promised their residents that they would do all they could to "help" place their residents into other programs but that never happened obviously.

If a major Univ center with 12-13 residency programs wont/dont help with impunity, I wonder if PGHC will step up for their lone in-house IM residency program?

[onmyway]

actually, if you carry the logic out a bit further, why should the hospital care about the ACGME rules if it is closing down? All the ACGME can do is penalize by suspending accreditation of graduate medical education there...but if the hospital shuts down, who gives a crap about that anyway?

[Linda Green]

County will keep hospital open through 2008 while longer term solutions including state money are sought. This is pretty much where we have always been but I believe that the residency will be ok for the incoming class and the students should plan on their rotations as scheduled. Check the Washington Post etc for details.

[mdcnwoman]

PM me if you need housing near PGCH for rotations. Can send you contact info.

[Linda Green]

Originally Posted by onmyway

actually, if you carry the logic out a bit further, why should the hospital care about the ACGME rules if it is closing down? All the ACGME can do is penalize by suspending accreditation of graduate medical education there...but if the hospital shuts down, who gives a crap about that anyway?

Since you asked I would say that the only people who would care would be the GME folks. Through the program director's list serve several contacts could be made with other programs and it is not too difficult for a program to add a position when a hospital or program closes suddently. Our experience when DC General closed was that the CIR (Committee of Interns and Residents) already represented the residents and their staff worked hard to help them Prince George's actually took two of their residents at that time. Union representaion can be helpful in such situations and in pushing for improvements in programs.

[onmyway]

anyone done a rads elective here or know how difficult it is to get one? I have a gap before doing my IM at PG and would like to see about doing one.

[Clad128]

I did IM core at PG last year...loved it, was treated very fairly, no overnight call. After talking with other students I am convinced that this is one of the best clinical sites for IM. It was a lot of work, but I learned a ton. The only negative thing I can say about PGHC in general is that the nurses are perhaps the WORST NURSES I have ever worked with (rude to attendings/residents/students, lazy, and incompetent).

Infectious disease was an excellent rotation as well...lots of AIDS-related diseases, saw a couple cases of TB, lots of wound infections. Worked M-F 8am until 5-ish.

[jungleprincess]

Does anyone know any details about the ob/gyn rotation and can anyone offer any housing information. Is this hosp still accredited? What are the hours for OB/GYN, any calls?