Jackson Park Hospital, Chicago

[Biobabe]

Originally Posted by salbhore

Hi
I'm planning tgo do rotations at jackson Park and want to know who's Dr k and Dr S as they take studednts from any school Pls guide me who arranges these rotations

I would suggest the education coordinator, docs prolly wouldn't have much to say.

[bevo]

Dr S will take from anyone I believe, but didnt take any students this current block. I'm not sure about Dr K. I do think he's loosened up some, but got no clue really. One surgeon (Dr D) is retiring this week. Some new guy was hired I heard. Peds can either be in hospital with NICU and Peds in the family health center. Or you can go out to Joliet. Basically, there is Inside JPH system and a outside the JPH system. Outside is rotations done outside the hospital through L*****. Everything is under the jackson park umbrella. Inside the JPH system is when you do IM at JPH. Dr R**** is outside the JPH system and you'll see surgeries at St Bernards primarly. The thing at Rush is more about getting people to do research there. You don't rotate at all, don't do anything clinical there. You can sit in lectures there from the research you get involved in. Not sure how strong that connection is. Heard recent block of students have been less willing to do this. OB - very low volume. In my rotation I've been around to see only 1 birth. Another occurred while I was on call but I was never notified by the nurses as everything had occured soon after my regular check in. I've scrubbed in once for an emergency C-section. Lectures are good with Dr N. Dr M (not peds M) can be good but are inconsistent.

[salbhore]

can someone pls specify which doctors r good for which rotations at jackson park pls thanku

[butters]

Originally Posted by bevo

Dr S will take from anyone I believe, but didnt take any students this current block. I'm not sure about Dr K. I do think he's loosened up some, but got no clue really. One surgeon (Dr D) is retiring this week. Some new guy was hired I heard. Peds can either be in hospital with NICU and Peds in the family health center. Or you can go out to Joliet. Basically, there is Inside JPH system and a outside the JPH system. Outside is rotations done outside the hospital through L*****. Everything is under the jackson park umbrella. Inside the JPH system is when you do IM at JPH. Dr R**** is outside the JPH system and you'll see surgeries at St Bernards primarly. The thing at Rush is more about getting people to do research there. You don't rotate at all, don't do anything clinical there. You can sit in lectures there from the research you get involved in. Not sure how strong that connection is. Heard recent block of students have been less willing to do this. OB - very low volume. In my rotation I've been around to see only 1 birth. Another occurred while I was on call but I was never notified by the nurses as everything had occured soon after my regular check in. I've scrubbed in once for an emergency C-section. Lectures are good with Dr N. Dr M (not peds M) can be good but are inconsistent.

Dr S from JPH gives really good lectures to his students and has a majority of the OB patients that come into JPH to deliver. From a more recent block of students I know that they are scrubbing into a lot more C-sections and assisting with more deliveries...Deliveries are hot and cold depending on patient load. JPH doesn't have much of an OB population. With Dr. N and Mc u will see more Gynecology but they don't do as many deliveries.

Dr. K for IM is good and he works you like a Resident so you learn patient management inside and out. Also, he's really particular about doing a complete physical exam so you really get good experience with PE's and writing notes.

Dr. R for Surgery...rethink that choice b/c you won't be scrubbing in for Surgeries and he makes his students sit for hours at a time to listen to him lecture on and on about the Philosophy of Medicine. The new guy at JPH for Surgery is pretty good.

[naperthrill]

has anyone done the rotation with Dr. W at St. Bernards? Is it any good? What is the schedule like? Did you feel like you were prepared for step 2 (and if not, did you at least have a lot of down time to study on your own?)

Thanks for the info in advance,

[sheikh1]

How is the accomodation like.

[mtr]

I have OBY w/ dr.W at bernards.... dr.M for family same place...and peds at bethany hospital...

anyone know anything for these rotations? any advice?



thanks

[RossMD2006]

Most, if all, the rotations in Chicago suck. (Anything connected to JPH). I did FM with Dr. M. He doesn't teach...you pretty much do H and P's and observe (like you did when you shadowed a doc as a premed). You get your patient exposure and get to practice interviewing. If anything, use it as a means to practice for the CS. (I know it's hard to start studying for it, if you're just beginning 3rd year, but believe me, come CS time, you may have wished you practiced for it during this useless rotation).

JPH is a cr*ppy hospital in Chicago. It's puts "community" in a community hospital. They got a FP residency there and thats it...and the FP program there sucks too. You will not know the meaning of a good rotation until you do one at a University setting/great community hospital.

I didn't do any of the other rotations you mentioned, but I hear peds at Bethany is aight. All outpatient...uris up the hizzle.

[ERMD5]

Originally Posted by RossMD2006

Most, if all, the rotations in Chicago suck. (Anything connected to JPH). I did FM with Dr. M. He doesn't teach...you pretty much do H and P's and observe (like you did when you shadowed a doc as a premed). You get your patient exposure and get to practice interviewing. If anything, use it as a means to practice for the CS. (I know it's hard to start studying for it, if you're just beginning 3rd year, but believe me, come CS time, you may have wished you practiced for it during this useless rotation).

JPH is a cr*ppy hospital in Chicago. It's puts "community" in a community hospital. They got a FP residency there and thats it...and the FP program there sucks too. You will not know the meaning of a good rotation until you do one at a University setting/great community hospital.

I didn't do any of the other rotations you mentioned, but I hear peds at Bethany is aight. All outpatient...uris up the hizzle.

It surprises me how ppl do their rotations and then talk bad about them. I know hte rotations in JPH are not hte best, but the fact is that u r the one who have to TRY to learn. For sure if u wanna slack u sure can, but if u wanna learn u'd have to step up for it. I think IM with Dr. K at JPH is not bad, he's gotta bad rep for being strict, but it makes u learn, again u gotta work hard at it. Some electives at JPH are very good. ID is excellent....u'll see all kinds of infections. I know till the time Dr. F was in ER...that rotation ws great, not sure about now. I didn't do FM there so I can't say. Some of the others u can look around in Michael Reese and St. Bernards. OB/Gyn at M.R was great.

[mtr]

hey...thanks for the help...i'm not too worried about the rotations themselves anymore....because i do agree that you have to make the rotation work .... although i'm sure there are places where the doc's just suck at teaching!

now i'm scared that st.bernard is not greenbook...or is it affiliated with jacksonpark or somethin? confused