Wyckoff Heights Medical Center, Brooklyn, NY

[akwasiatta]

Originally Posted by Salsabil

you guys are happy about regaining some spots at a hospital we used to dominate?! amazing.

listen, until we win a 100 million dollar contract, we got nuthin.

It helps to be optimistic. U don't have to have it all.

[Scott1981]

i wonder which school they pushed or squeezed at wykoff. this is an amazing feat for ross's recent ignorant admin.

[DrunkenDancer]

I wonder if this means that it will be easier to schedule stuff, I never had problems with being bumped, although apparently some people did, but currently you have to talk face-to-face with the clinical coordinator there, they haven't ever really responded to my emails, and they are hard to get in contact with via phone, even when they "schedule" you for something, sometimes you have to confirm 2-3 times in person at their office to make sure you are still on the list, I chalked this up to Ross competing with other schools there, so now that there are guaranteed cores spots maybe this will translate into Ross students getting our emails answered and maybe make it easier to electives? I think the electives are great but the whole process of 1. Talk to XX about getting electives, 2.Sending email to officially request elective, 3. Checking back in person with XX 3 weeks later to find elective not scheduled, 4. Sending another email to schedule said elective, 5. showing up on elective start date to find that you are not on the list yet, . . . it seems a little ridiculous, maybe the clinical coordinator will want to deal with Ross more directly as we have essentially already have guaranteed spots? Regardless, it is great that Ross students have this opportunity and maybe we will do an excellent job on clinicals there to make Wyckoff admin happy about the deal with Ross, I always keep a smile on my face when trying to schedule stuff, still had problems, hopefully now things are easier for students there.

[heifetz]

Originally Posted by Closter

It won't be more packed, because there is no increase in the total number of students

Sorry to have to break this to you but 70 students for a surgery rotation is absolutely packed. How much 1 on 1 teaching do you think you will receive? What kind of clinical experience do you think you will get with 70 of you running around? Ask yourself how many OR rooms there are, or better yet how many residents/faculty. C'mon tell this situation to a US med-student and they'll laugh in your face and tell you to stop joking around. This set-up is ridiculous and definitely not a learning environment of any kind period!

[Closter]

I didn't say it won't be packed, I said it won't be MORE packed

[dyphylobrothim]

It sounds good - however, I do know that AUC, Antigua and Poland have contracts with wyckoff for "a set quantity of clinical spots". The problem is that if indeed Wyckoff just agreed to allow more students rotate - The rotations will be uncomfortably filled with students and your opportunity to for clinical exposure will be limited.

b12 MD

[got milk?]

haha.

how do we know how many more peds and ob spots ross got?

out of the 50 extra spots, 40 of them could just be IM, and 8 more surgery.
that would leave 1 spot for peds, 1 spot for OB.


or it could be 40 extra surgery spots. that would be a riot. and good for the surgery dept too, as you get to fill out and file more papers. It would also limit your O.R exposure to 2 days (total) out of the whole semester.

[thethom]

What do you guys don't understand about the email. It said specifically that more of the existing spots will be allocated to Ross students. They aren't increasing the total number of medical students in the hospital. This will be at the expense of other medical schools' spots...

[summerwind]

Md Hammer posted this information about the increase in seats at Wyckoff on another thread yesterday.

Originally Posted by Md Hammer

But it does go to show, yes Ross did get back all the seats it had previously lost at wyckoff, but just look at the quality of the rotations there! Its so hard to even set up electives there b/c no one wants to get back to you.

Also increasing the seats we have for wyckoff may sound good, but years ago we had all same amount of seats that this new contract stipulates now. So basically, we used to have 112 then we went to 64 and now we're back at 112. What everyone is forgetting and what the clinical dept wants us to forget is that even back in the day when the class sizes were half of what they are today and we had 112 seats at wyckoff, it was still hard for students to set their schedules.

So yes, while getting back to where we used to be is decent, we need to do better than what the status quo was 2 or 3 years ago.

[Wajaro]

Does anybody know if we need to provide our own scrubs for the surgery rotation at Wyckoff? Also does anybody have any good tips about where to live and where to find a roommate?