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    chapelier is offline Senior Member 527 points
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    FMF ORADEA 2011 applications

    Hi prospective,
    to avoid too many PM , here is a collection of what is required to apply to FMF Oradea
    For EU students , entrance exam (around end July , no september session usually) is mandatory. This has the advantage to secure a seat at this date , wherease in other facultie file competition makes nothing sure . Second advantage is tuition , beeing around 1750€/year (not fixed for next year yet) . Exam is not tough , selection actually beeing made between those who come and those who don't...
    For Non-EU , tuition is 3400€ , but here there will be (or not) an evolution depending on ministry directions
    NOBODY SO FAR FAILED ADMISSION , except those caught cheating at entrance exam
    Here you can find curriculum FMF Oradea
    Here is official website EU, EEA and Switzerland citizens
    the only contact you can use is Ramona , working at IR dept rcoita[at]uoradea.ro
    any other is an agent , so please don't use
    Some students are on the forum , don't hesitate to ask about life in Oradea , this is not a big city but enough for a normal active student life (main faculty is around 8000 students , FMF being around 1500 including Romanian students)
    Most hospital are now being completly renewed , only few ones remain in old conditions. Time that to come to clinical years (from 3d year) , everything will be modern and fresh
    Those EU who wish a summerise for entrance exam topics , can forward through PM

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    Iasi and cluj will be 7000€ next year , don't invent things that are not about these 2 faculties which work together , if I tell you that some students report this tuition increase it is true. When I was there it was impossible to have valuable informations with rectorat , they consider foreign students only like cash providers , not students. I left cluj for this reason (no other reasonI never had to recuperate any exam in september). This is just not an european medschool regarding european students
    And sorry , a numerus of 15 seats among them 12 free of tuition is a great selection , proof is that those who will fail will just go to other faculties
    hungarian entrance selection is nothing. Difficulty is at the end of the fisrt 3 years. And let's tell it , it's much much more difficult that any of our faculties in Ro , that's a reality
    entrance exam is not a matter of usefull or not ,this is just about equality between EU and romanian students. If you want the same doctors at the end , you have to follow the same way.
    paying 5000/7000 instead of taking / passing an entrance and pay then very little is just not the same way , I'm sorry. And probably not the same quality of student ,as you will see , failing people and those who don't feel confident to succeed this entrance exam will just send files in other faculties ...
    Last edited by chapelier; 06-18-2011 at 04:18 PM.

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    Don't understand me wrong. I would always go for quality and am definitely one of the last persons who says that just take people in for the sake of getting a couple of euros more. But still, as the number of seats in total remains, with less Europeans accepted it only means that more people get in on file competition. And to my knowledge the last year it hasn't been that much of non-EU applicants either. So I don't really see how that will raise the quality. Maybe it does among Europeans but surely not in general. That's just my opinion concerning the whole matter and does not have to do anything with the fact that it now got a lot more difficult for me to get into Oradea.

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    I'm torn between the various points of view regarding the 15 seats issue. I have some reservations about the changes actually drawing more talented students. The number is so low that even a good student at this point could decide it's too risky to try for a seat. And the # of non-EU seats remains the same. Assuming all 15 of the EU candidates are top of the pack, does that mean they will be held back by less well prepared non-EU students who just sent in their files?

    Plus, fully 80% of the EU candidates will receive scholarships. Do 80% of the Romanian students get a free seat? Romanian doctors are leaving in droves and the labor laws are designed to mitigate this... yet universities have money to burn on foreign students, 80% of whom don't even want to be studying there, much less stay once they finish the degree?

    I could see this change having some positive effects, education wise, if the non-EU admissions drop too, but then there would be a significant budgetary issue. Foreign students are a huge money maker, not just for the university, but for the city in general.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chapelier View Post
    Iasi and cluj will be 7000€ next year , don't invent things that are not about these 2 faculties which work together , if I tell you that some students report this tuition increase it is true. When I was there it was impossible to have valuable informations with rectorat , they consider foreign students only like cash providers , not students. I left cluj for this reason (no other reasonI never had to recuperate any exam in september). This is just not an european medschool regarding european students
    And sorry , a numerus of 15 seats among them 12 free of tuition is a great selection , proof is that those who will fail will just go to other faculties
    hungarian entrance selection is nothing. Difficulty is at the end of the fisrt 3 years. And let's tell it , it's much much more difficult that any of our faculties in Ro , that's a reality
    entrance exam is not a matter of usefull or not ,this is just about equality between EU and romanian students. If you want the same doctors at the end , you have to follow the same way.
    paying 5000/7000 instead of taking / passing an entrance and pay then very little is just not the same way , I'm sorry. And probably not the same quality of student ,as you will see , failing people and those who don't feel confident to succeed this entrance exam will just send files in other faculties ...
    Dude, the guy wants to study now and next year won't affect him because his fees will stay 5k/year. My mates who started before me are still paying 2.5k and some 3.5k because that's what was in their contracts. My contract has 5k listed in it and that's for all 6 years. If the guy wants to start now then let him do it because if the prices go to 7k, it won't affect him.

    If you are a quality student, you can even lower the fees to half price (i.e 2.5k...not sure, it might even be 2500 romanian lei) a year by getting an average of 9 in all subjects. I have more than 5 friends who got this scholarship by the UMF cluj and you can see the list of dozens of students who received it. Starting from this year, there will be more than 30 scholarships for students who get high grades in everything.

    You need to stop this argumentation about "if you ask money then you're not a good school" because that would make schools like Harvard and other Ivy leagues look like a bunch of god diggers. If you're dumb enough to not manage passing a test of basic bio, biochem and physics and then go on pay 5k in fees to try 1st year of medicine then that's your problem because you will fail. In this case the school is the winner.

    I didnt come here because i couldn't pass a test. I prefer living Cluj because it has the most western culture and environment among all the big cities in Romania and it's the best one i liked after seeing all Iasi, Constanca, Bucharest, Targu mures. These high fees are doing something atleast because we got atleast 3 new departments finished, 1 new huuuuuuge library, new dental department with modern and high tech equipment....and lot more.

    I really wouldnt like to live in a place like Oradea but that's just me....or maybe with the other hundreds of students here.

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    When chapelier says "next year" he means the next academic year of 2011/2012 starting this October (or whenever it starts).

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    Quote Originally Posted by ClujDDS View Post
    I really wouldnt like to live in a place like Oradea but that's just me....or maybe with the other hundreds of students here.
    I visited all the cities you mentionned , and studied in cluj too
    You just never saw oradea to say it. But I hope another student from Oradea will be able to tell you about this ...
    Campus is around 8000 students. All fields are represented . It's a student town , just tinier than cluj. But nicer than this old industrial city , indeed. Cluj is just ugly 500meter far from piata unirii
    and contracts are not made for next year. I remember when they switched to 5000€ was at the last moment. yep I know people there

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    I just got information from Oradea why there are so little places this year. It was explained to me that they got 100 places in total this year, for both Romanian and EU-students. And based on that the faculty decided to give 85 places to the Romanian program and 15 to the English medium. So that means, the number 15 pretty sure won't change anymore. Applicants so far are already over 60, so competition will be very high here this year.

    Non-EU places are handled separately.

    What I still do not get, why would the ministry only give so little places to Oradea this year while other universities keep their places.
    Last edited by mercany; 06-22-2011 at 01:37 PM.

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    Over 60 and rising according to some people! And the number of seats going over 15 will definitely not happen. We where lucky for them to set the bar at 15 for EU-students if you ask me.

    Normal students have little chance with all the applicants who already have a degree, or the medical students applying that already studied medicine really hard for some years: French medical students that failed the concours; and all the Hungary and C. republic medical students who where expelled or want to change to Oradea.

    I just hope its not throwing money down the drain to go all the way to Oradea and stay there for a weak.
    Last edited by Catarro; 06-22-2011 at 01:48 PM.

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    that's again the shame about this country : big faculties buy everything , automatic accreditations even before section opens , number of seats ... here oradea is just thinking differently , and succes/rising fame of this faculty since Dr Bumbu came is not a good thing for universities won't don't like competition
    I wonder what will be the next banana skin
    Romania should thnk about his major problem : 1/3 of Romanian young doctors are leaving the country , it's a tragedic leak. they should focus on training more doctors for their own country and keep them instead of leaving 2-3 persons making of health system a personal business

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    Something I have noticed in researching the applications system at other universities, aren't EU students allowed to apply based on the files system as if they were non-EU, at least in theory? If Oradea allows this, it would give a chance to Europeans who don't have prior medical studies.

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