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Old 12-28-2007, 09:23 AM
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According to the GMC in the UK, they are suspending registration of Romanian qualified doctors due to information they have received from the Romanian authorities. They say that this will affect the registration of Romanian qualified doctors who may not be entitled to register in the UK once they have finished their investigations.

So if you are looking at practising in the UK, hold off on going to a Romanian school until further notice!

GMC | Accession of Bulgaria and Romania
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According to the GMC in the UK, they are suspending registration of Romanian qualified doctors due to information they have received from the Romanian authorities. They say that this will affect the registration of Romanian qualified doctors who may not be entitled to register in the UK once they have finished their investigations.

So if you are looking at practising in the UK, hold off on going to a Romanian school until further notice!

GMC | Accession of Bulgaria and Romania
That's not exactly what the link you've posted says; so I wondered if you've personally received some additional information from the GMC. Could you post the substance of any emails or in some way elaborate?
I've just seen your other post concerning Oradea http://www.valuemd.com/romanian-medi...tml#post737873
Again, perhaps you could explain a bit more? Thanks.
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Certainly, I telephoned them and they are concerned about the quality and standards of Romanian trained Doctors which other EU countries have brought to their attention. In the absence of any WHO register, the GMC are concerned about Romanian medical schools following reports from other member states.

The GMC said that Romanian doctors would have the same rights as other EU doctors but this is a qualified right and not an absolute right and they have the right to refuse registration. Their stance now is that they are "reviewing" Romanian medical schools. So I would advise any medical student NOT to enrol in a Romanian school until the GMC have made their decision.
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Certainly, I telephoned them and they are concerned about the quality and standards of Romanian trained Doctors which other EU countries have brought to their attention. In the absence of any WHO register, the GMC are concerned about Romanian medical schools following reports from other member states.

The GMC said that Romanian doctors would have the same rights as other EU doctors but this is a qualified right and not an absolute right and they have the right to refuse registration. Their stance now is that they are "reviewing" Romanian medical schools. So I would advise any medical student NOT to enrol in a Romanian school until the GMC have made their decision.
I myself contacted the GMC regarding what was quite dramatic news contained in the original post.
I asked them to comment on the points made above (and in another post specifically about Oradea). I received a reply today -
Thank you for your email of 11 January 2008 concerning Romanian-qualified doctors.

We are not aware of any concerns about Romanian doctors in general, or about those with primary medical qualifications from the University of Oradea in particular. The qualification issued by that university is an EEA qualification and, subject to confirmation that it meets certain criteria, we are obliged by law to accept it for the purposes of UK registration.

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subject to confirmation that it meets certain criteria

So they have said something similar to what they told me yesterday. That they have not received the information they required to recognise the degree and allow registration.
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Yes, I know- and it is in accord with what is published on their web site. However it's quite far removed from what was stated in your original posts.
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Actually, the GMC are not obliged to recognise any EU degree. Recognition is a qualified right and not an absolute right, they can refuse to award automatic reciprocity if they haven't seen sufficient evidence that a medical degree meets EU directives. This is why certain EU countries are not awarded reciprocity such as Malta for example whose candidates have to sit PLAB.

The GMC have received "information" about Romanian medical schools but will not tell anyone what this information is. I have been told two different things from the GMC but the general gist is that the Romanian authorities haven't provided sufficient information concerning the school's compliance with EU directives concerning standards of education.

Even if the GMC do not award automatic reciprocity, as the school is WHO listed; students will still be eligible for registration through PLAB or an alternative route.

As automatic reciprocity only applies to EU citizens, I expect that this will not apply to the majority of the forum; many of whom I expect are seeking US licences anyway.
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In fact in my eagerness to excise personal details I left out (and ignored) this key bit from the email -
Details of the criteria in question are available on our website at this location:
GMC | Romania – Evidence of qualifications

The above link details the degrees/certificates required for full registration, and does not mention any inquiries pending.
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Actually, the GMC are not obliged to recognise any EU degree. Recognition is a qualified right and not an absolute right, they can refuse to award automatic reciprocity if they haven't seen sufficient evidence that a medical degree meets EU directives. This is why certain EU countries are not awarded reciprocity such as Malta for example whose candidates have to sit PLAB.

The GMC have received "information" about Romanian medical schools but will not tell anyone what this information is. I have been told two different things from the GMC but the general gist is that the Romanian authorities haven't provided sufficient information concerning the school's compliance with EU directives concerning standards of education.

Even if the GMC do not award automatic reciprocity, as the school is WHO listed; students will still be eligible for registration through PLAB or an alternative route.

As automatic reciprocity only applies to EU citizens, I expect that this will not apply to the majority of the forum; many of whom I expect are seeking US licences anyway.
Somebody had better tell the GMC to update its information for Univ. of Malta graduates. I can't find any reference to a PLAB requirement.
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This is why certain EU countries are not awarded reciprocity such as Malta for example whose candidates have to sit PLAB.
You are wrong about Malta and the PLAB. Anyone who is registered with the MMC (Malta Medical Council) does not have to sit for any other examination after graduating university and completing the required one-year MD internship.

With any other country you MIGHT have been right, but because you chose Malta as an example, you got it wrong. The education system is run by UK trained consultants, as the university in Malta does not train specialists. Besides, the official languages of the country are English and Maltese, and medical instruction is in English...so the Linguistic component in PLAB doesn't apply at all, and to my knowledge, this predates the country's EEA affliation, meaning Malta trained doctors never sat for the PLAB, even in the 60s, for example, when it was still under British rule.

Here is the evidence: (http) home.um.edu.mt/med-surg /mmj/ 14_01_2.pdf

Remove spaces. When the page loads press CTRL + F and type PLAB... will take you straight to the sentence.
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