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    2013 match n my chances ?

    Hi every one ,,
    I am planning to apply for 2013 match .
    My credential is as such,
    step 1 -214, step 2 -208 , cs - giving soon ,2009 grad, visa- GC ,USCE- not yet done ,will be doing after cs but want to make sure what specialty should i apply so that i can apply for observship in that paticular specility.
    With my scores ,i am planning for FM , Ped ..Should i also include IM ? What are my chances for IM or FM or PED.
    Please give me yr expert views ..
    sometimes i think i should only apply in Pead or only in FM . Sometimes i feel i should also apply some IM . what should i do .
    I dont know how to proceed .Can any one help me please .

    Thank you so much

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    your chances are slim very very slim.. like less then 5% I would say. For all specialties. sorry.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RussianJoo View Post
    your chances are slim very very slim.. like less then 5% I would say. For all specialties. sorry.

    Lol.

    OP: Dont take RussianJoo seriously, he/she's merely poking fun at the fact that you're asking people on the internet what your chances are.. its almost as crazy as going to a psychic, only slightly more.

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    no I was serious, the OP's step scores aren't that great, he/she is an old grad (2009), has a poor grasp of the english language and still needs to do a lot of stuff like pass USMLE Step2 CS and USMLE Step3, and still needs USCE. The only good thing he/she has going is that they have a visa/GC. The match is getting tougher every year, and programs are getting pickier even FM, now that there is no prematching and more people applying the chance of matching will be even less. Currently FMGs like the OP have less than 50% chance of matching into any specialty.

    I hope you're studying hard for the CS and practicing with an american classmate. You really don't want to fail this test! good luck.
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    Who are you to tell people if they are going to match or not? Because s/he is an IMG doesn't mean that he/she doesn't speak English. I don't see anywhere in his/her post that s/he mentions he doesn't speak English well. I know people with scores lower than that who matched successfully. With God, nothing is impossible. All scores above 200 are considered good scores. It is not nice at all to discourage people when they ask for opinions. I really can't stand RussianJoo's comments because s/he is so negative, and s/he thinks s/he knows everything. Do not pay attention to him/her because she doesn't know what s/he is talking about. My advice to you XXmctu is to pray God to help you find a spot in residency. You did your part, and now let's the rest to GOD. God has a plan for each of us, so don't be discouraged by what people say. Study hard to pass CS. I wish you good luck for the 2013 match.

    Quote Originally Posted by RussianJoo View Post
    no I was serious, the OP's step scores aren't that great, he/she is an old grad (2009), has a poor grasp of the english language and still needs to do a lot of stuff like pass USMLE Step2 CS and USMLE Step3, and still needs USCE. The only good thing he/she has going is that they have a visa/GC. The match is getting tougher every year, and programs are getting pickier even FM, now that there is no prematching and more people applying the chance of matching will be even less. Currently FMGs like the OP have less than 50% chance of matching into any specialty.

    I hope you're studying hard for the CS and practicing with an american classmate. You really don't want to fail this test! good luck.

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    Praying to god is not associated with positive outcomes in the match, good scores, usce, and speaking English is. That being said, the op can probably match somewhere.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lovingyou View Post
    Who are you to tell people if they are going to match or not?
    Wait-wait-wait-wait. The OP asked for feedback. RJ gave an honest opinion (complete with regrets and wishing the OP good luck). Sorry, but that's more than fair. If someone doesn't want answers, then they probably ought not ask the questions in the first place, right?

    Quote Originally Posted by lovingyou View Post
    Because s/he is an IMG doesn't mean that he/she doesn't speak English. I don't see anywhere in his/her post that s/he mentions he doesn't speak English well.
    Did you actually read the post? It was written in poor English. That's got to be considered a pretty decent indicator, innit?

    Quote Originally Posted by lovingyou View Post
    I know people with scores lower than that who matched successfully. With God, nothing is impossible.
    I know people who matched with low scores, too. I happen to be a person of faith who tends to believe that second sentence, as well. Regardless, that still doesn't magically swing the percentages in the OP's favor.

    Quote Originally Posted by lovingyou View Post
    All scores above 200 are considered good scores.
    Now that is just silly. Nooooo, they most certainly are not. You may be able to match into a primary care specialty with low 200s, but they are certainly not considered "good scores." And one almost certainly will not match into a competitive specialty as an FMG with scores like that.

    Quote Originally Posted by lovingyou View Post
    It is not nice at all to discourage people when they ask for opinions.
    So, it is better to just lie to people and tell them what they want to hear, is that the idea? Look, I happen to think that RJ's estimation of <5% is on the low side, but it's an honest opinion, it's supported with data, and it's pretty reasonable. The OP has some red flags and isn't a super strong candidate at this point. That can change with a passing CS result and some USCE, plus rapid improvement in English skills.

    Quote Originally Posted by lovingyou View Post
    I really can't stand RussianJoo's comments because s/he is so negative, and s/he thinks s/he knows everything. Do not pay attention to him/her because she doesn't know what s/he is talking about.
    Hey, RJ's been through the Match successfully, is not omniscient (nor, to my knowledge, claims to be), and has some decent knowledge on the topic. It's one resident's opinion, you know? Somehow I don't think RJ will lose a lot of sleep over your finger-wagging.

    Quote Originally Posted by lovingyou View Post
    My advice to you XXmctu is to pray God to help you find a spot in residency. You did your part, and now let's the rest to GOD. God has a plan for each of us, so don't be discouraged by what people say. Study hard to pass CS. I wish you good luck for the 2013 match.
    Yes. I believe that prayer is a great thing, and I think that passing CS is also a great thing. However, I also think that mastering the English language before writing personal statements or (hopefully) interviewing, and getting some USCE are probably among the highest yield activities for the OP at this juncture.

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    Axiomofchoice, are you trying to tell me that "praying to God is not associated with positive outcomes in the match, but good scores, usce, and speaking English matters." You are so wrong my dear. God is in control of everything. I have a friend of mine who passed step 1 with 76 in her third attempt, and passed step 2 with 78 (second attempt). She didn't match the first year and the second year. She was very depressed, and didn't know what to do. She decided to go to God for solutions. This year, she accepted a pre-match. She called all her friends to tell them that God made POSSIBLE what everyone said was IMPOSSIBLE. That gives more reasons to believe in my ALMIGHTY GOD. AND If I start talking about what God has done for me, it will take me forever. Of course, I encourage everyone to study hard to get great scores, but at the same time everyone's situation is different. NOTHING IS IMPOSSIBLE WITH GOD.

    Quote Originally Posted by axiomofchoice View Post
    Praying to god is not associated with positive outcomes in the match, good scores, usce, and speaking English is. That being said, the op can probably match somewhere.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lovingyou View Post
    Axiomofchoice, are you trying to tell me that "praying to God is not associated with positive outcomes in the match, but good scores, usce, and speaking English matters." You are so wrong my dear. God is in control of everything. I have a friend of mine who passed step 1 with 76 in her third attempt, and passed step 2 with 78 (second attempt). She didn't match the first year and the second year. She was very depressed, and didn't know what to do. She decided to go to God for solutions. This year, she accepted a pre-match. She called all her friends to tell them that God made POSSIBLE what everyone said was IMPOSSIBLE. That gives more reasons to believe in my ALMIGHTY GOD. AND If I start talking about what God has done for me, it will take me forever. Of course, I encourage everyone to study hard to get great scores, but at the same time everyone's situation is different. NOTHING IS IMPOSSIBLE WITH GOD.
    You have no understanding of data synthesis, the concept of cofounders, false conclusion, or the scientific method in general. Good luck in medicine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lovingyou View Post
    Axiomofchoice, are you trying to tell me that "praying to God is not associated with positive outcomes in the match, but good scores, usce, and speaking English matters." You are so wrong my dear. God is in control of everything. I have a friend of mine who passed step 1 with 76 in her third attempt, and passed step 2 with 78 (second attempt). She didn't match the first year and the second year. She was very depressed, and didn't know what to do. She decided to go to God for solutions. This year, she accepted a pre-match. She called all her friends to tell them that God made POSSIBLE what everyone said was IMPOSSIBLE. That gives more reasons to believe in my ALMIGHTY GOD. AND If I start talking about what God has done for me, it will take me forever. Of course, I encourage everyone to study hard to get great scores, but at the same time everyone's situation is different. NOTHING IS IMPOSSIBLE WITH GOD.
    Try your best
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