Roper!
I don't understand why do you even bother posting on this board
Are you just looking for some cheap publicity You know well that most ppl here are either prospective or current students,or even residents and practicing MDs. Are you trying to convince them that, even they've gone through the same training as US med students, but they still are no good?! I know it's free country and it provides an equal freedom for ppl to go and do somethting worthy with their life,i.e attending an off-shore med school, or to be a spoiler for everybody like yourself, and to make a complete fool out of yourself
Get a life pal, will you

Roper, I am confused. I thought you were a chiropractor in Texas going to an offshore medical school via the internet. My memory is failing me or something because your posts are fairly anti-offshore medical school?

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Chiropractors are quack doctors. And no, for the 2nd time, I am NOT a quiropractor. Yes, I am generally not in favor of offshore med schools as you suggest and I am in Texas as I told you earlier. As before you are wrong on all other accounts, I'm afraid.

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So, you don't like Caribbean schools. I agree there are many shady tactics that go on. I also agree that there have been some flames sent your way that violate the TOS, as far as I know, those people have been asked to edit, and will be given warnings if they choose not to comply.

What is your experience with offshore schools that makes you so against them? This is a legit question. Not meant to be a flame, or rhetorical. G

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because they are not legitimized by a central accrediting agency in the US. The offshore schools emulate the system and standards set by LCME accredited schools, so should they not be held to the same standards as any LCME school? If you say yes, then obviously most (if not all) offshore carib schools would become automatically ineligible to have its grads in the US. That physician shortage problem would no longer be solved by getting poorly trained physicians at offshore academies. The physician shortage problem would be solved instead with by the creation of more med schools in the US and in some cases more med seats at current US med schools. Had this occurred before the St Georges of the world got big in ths 80s, most of you would've graduated from American schools and our healthcare would be better trained. So, you see. I am on the side of the students, not necessarily the schools.

BTW if, like you say, you actually agree that there have been some flames sent your way that violate the TOS, then why isn't something done about it?

You're right! You should get to work on that immediately.

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I was actually talking about the flames coming YOUR way. That person/those persons have been warned. Since we are all (well, most of us anyway) adults, people with TOS violations are PM'd and given the opportunity to change the posts themselves. Should they refuse, they will be given warnings, and the post edited for them. I hate that, it makes me feel as though I am a pre-school teacher.

As for a central accrediting agency, I think that is a good idea. I do understand that if that had been the case 25 years ago, that our schools wouldn't exist. I don't think that it is difficult to meet those standards, since most of these schools bring in plenty of $$$$$. I do hope there is an accrediting body set up at some point. For now, CA is the best standard we have. I think in some ways, it isn't that great.

The big problem I have with many offshore schools is that they accept people who are poor candidates for med school, then provide a grossly substandard education. Sure, these people have a shot, but it is a long one. That is wrong and is really a con game. Taking advantage of people's desire to be a physician. I woulld love to see a lot of them shut down.

Caribbean schools do serve a purpose. Some new schools are opening in the US, and many med schools are increasing their capacity. One of the many publications I receive had an article discussing the looming physician shortage. I think it was American Medical News or something like that. Even with some new schools, and increasing US schools to capacity, there won't be enough physicians in 20 years. They mentioned Carib schools specifically as a good source of docs.

I feel I got a good education. i don't feel inferior in the least to the partners in my practice who went to U of MD for med school. I ask them questions, they ask me questions. I feel I am on par with them. I assume they think the same since they didn't have to offer me a job. There are a lot of good doctors coming out of the Caribbean. On the flip side, there are a lot of people who get hosed. Maybe there will be an accrediting body if for no other reason than to stop raping students. G

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if we are poorly trained doctors then so are the US med students we train with. so bad doctors apparently come from University of Michigan, Michigan State, Wayne State, LSU, NYU, SUNY, Stanford, Yale affiliated hospitals and so on.....

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I think you are missing roper's point (correct me if I'm wrong, roper). He isn't denying that there are good docs who come from carib schools, and isn't even denying that some of the carib schools provide a good education. What he is saying is since these schools are emulating an LCME model, and grads have the primary intention of practice in the US, there should be a central accrediting agency for these schools to ensure the education is on par. I think that is reasonable. Some of the schools would cut it, some wouldn't. Just gotta talk the LCME into looking at schools outside the country. G

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