ValueMD Sponsor
Home Forum Books Links Album Residency USMLE PreMed


Caribbean Medical Schools European Medical Schools Foreign Medical Schools Medical Resources
Go Back   ValueMD Medical Schools Forum > FUN AND FANTASY > The Relaxing Lounge

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1 (permalink)  
Old 02-26-2005, 09:19 AM
Newbie
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Posts: 4
VERY VERY IMPORTANT...IT'S FOR YOUR CAREER...VOTE YES IN CNN

This is very very important....Your career in USA depends upon this....Vote YES in this CNN POLL....POLL asking for :
"Should doctors who graduate from foreign medical schools be licensed to practice in the United States? ""
http://www.cnn.com/CNN/Programs/lou.dobbs.tonight/
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #2 (permalink)  
Old 02-26-2005, 09:45 AM
anencephalic's Avatar
Brainless Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: South of Heaven
Posts: 4,012
1234567890

Sad commentary that the a majority of the American population (>60%) feel that IMGs should not be licensed in the USA. How many of those that voted against licensure for IMGs realize that nearly 23% (roughly 1/4) of the licensed and practicing physician population in the US are IMGs?

Some sobering facts from the AMA website:
http://www.ama-assn.org/ama/pub/category/211.html

IMGs in the U.S.

This page contains a profile of the IMG population and significant dates in U.S. immigration policy affecting IMGs.

A Profile of the Internationl Medical Graduate Population

* In 2002, out of 874,589 physicians, 198,703 IMGs received medical degrees from 127 different countries, accounting for 22.7% of the total physician count.
* IMGs make up approximately 23% of the U.S. physician population and 24% of resident physicians.

* The heaviest concentration of IMGs is in New Jersey (40.3% of doctors); and New York (40.2%); and Illinois (33.7%); and Florida (33.1%).

* Almost half of all IMGs (48%) train in primary care specialties vs. 33% of U.S. graduates.

* The largest national group is from India (19.2% of total).

* Of the 154,576 total IMG population, 130,741 (85%) are in patient care, 7.635 (5%) are in medical teaching, administration or research, and the remainder are not classified, are inactive, or have an unknown address.

* Of the 22,230 IMGs who are in residency training or are clinical fellows, more than 4,000 are American citizens, 8,200 are immigrants and are permanent residents, and 8,900 are in the U.S. on an exchange visitor visa and plan to return to their country of origin unless the INS grants them a waiver because they are needed to provide care to the American public. Therefore, some 55% of all IMGs in graduate medical education programs are U.S. citizens or lawful immigrants.

* The total physician population increased by 350,386 between 1970 and 1994 or 104.9% while IMGs accounted for over one-fourth (27.8%) of this increase by gaining 97,359 physicians.

* In this 24-year period, non-IMGs grew by 91.4% while IMGs increased by 170.2%.

* In 1980, IMGs accounted for 20.9% of the total physician count of 467,679 while that percent climbed to 22.6% of the total count of 684,414 physicians in 1994.

Significant dates in U.S. Immigration Policy affecting IMGs

* 1933-1948 - European IMGs immigrate as refugees in relatively small numbers.

* 1948 - Exchange visitor program lets IMGs train in U.S. Many stay.

* 1956 - AMA and others create IMG-certification system; the ECFMG.

* 1965 - Easily obtainable visas in some specialties attract Third World IMGs.

* 1971 - IMGs get quicker job clearances for permanent residency status.

* 1976 - Congress raises immigration barriers against IMGs.

* 1980 - Federal study recommends IMG limits.

* 1985 - Federal legislation proposed to cut off GME funding for IMGs. Fails.

* 1990s - Steep rise in incoming IMGs attributed to breakup of Soviet Union, changes in licensing exam and new immigration laws.


Aloha,
__________________
Pathology
PGY-1.75
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #3 (permalink)  
Old 02-26-2005, 10:55 AM
emt036's Avatar
Elite Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2003
Posts: 3,590
Images: 1
I hope one little very unscientific poll from the news media has no bearing on my future career.
__________________
4th Year Medical Student
St. George's University
All postings carry this disclaimer.
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #4 (permalink)  
Old 02-26-2005, 11:12 AM
Scott1981's Avatar
Moderator
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Florida
Posts: 4,514
12

CABLE NEWS RACE
THURS., FEB 24, 2005

FNC O'REILLY 2,181,000 [VIEWERS]
FNC HANNITY/COLMES 1,622,000
FNC SHEP SMITH 1,386,000
FNC BRIT HUME 1,318,000
FNC GRETA 1,307,000
CNN ***** KING 1,004,000
CNN ZAHN 673,000
CNN AARON BROWN 551,000
CNN COOPER 524,000
MSNBC HARDBALL 388,000
CNN DOBBS 379,000
CNNHN NANCY GRACE 366,000
MSNBC SCARBOROUGH 240,000
MNSBC OLBERMANN/GANNON 208,000


----------------------------------
maybe dobbs should cut out his anti foreign this and that rhetoric and he will get a few more viewers
__________________
Dr. Scott
Internal Medicine
PGY-1

AUC Forum Moderator
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #5 (permalink)  
Old 02-26-2005, 12:20 PM
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Posts: 915
Educating to be done

It seems there is a lot of educating to be done. I wonder where Lou Dobbs came up with such a poll?

Best of Luck!
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #6 (permalink)  
Old 02-26-2005, 12:45 PM
microphage's Avatar
Useless Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2003
Posts: 7,633
Re: Educating to be done

I saw earlier this morning(3-4am) the CNN headline news segment on foreign medical schools. It was mainly about Dr. Nabut(UAG grad) who didn't have a bachelors degree and was practicing medicine. (we all know that's not a big deal but they sort of blew it out of porportion) Lets just say he messed up quite a few times and didn't have malpractice insurance.

Click here for his story...
http://www.courant.com/news/health/h...ty-news-health

They did interview California's Board of licensing(I think)--> Ms. Hadnot about how they approve schools etc and also listed 7 other states where approval was necessary(you should all be able to list these by now...). I can't seem to find the story on CNN.com but oh well.

The segment was negative but it could have been much worse...
__________________
Finally beat Super Mario Bros within 7 mins.
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #7 (permalink)  
Old 02-26-2005, 02:32 PM
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Posts: 511
Re: 1234567890

Quote:
Originally Posted by anencephalic
Sad commentary that the a majority of the American population (>60%) feel that IMGs should not be licensed in the USA. How many of those that voted against licensure for IMGs realize that nearly 23% (roughly 1/4) of the licensed and practicing physician population in the US are IMGs?
Unfortunately a majority of Americans are stupid idiots and im sure most of the people who participated in that survey are uninformed, rightwing morons. regardless, 45% of the US (125 million people) would appreciate our services and welcome us with open arms.

-T-
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #8 (permalink)  
Old 02-26-2005, 03:43 PM
Scott1981's Avatar
Moderator
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Florida
Posts: 4,514
12

i dont think many right wingers watch cnn, let alone lou dobbs
__________________
Dr. Scott
Internal Medicine
PGY-1

AUC Forum Moderator
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #9 (permalink)  
Old 02-26-2005, 04:43 PM
Moderator Guru
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Posts: 21,107
Re: 1234567890

[quote="Toddaa1"]
Quote:
Originally Posted by anencephalic
Sad commentary that the a majority of the American population (>60%)

Unfortunately a majority of Americans are stupid idiots and im sure most of the people who participated in that survey are uninformed, rightwing morons.

-T-
the truth is most of you would agree probably if you were not imgs. must keep it in perspective. educate. make standards uniform for imgs. dont whinge.
__________________
Steph
If you get a warning, put on yer manpants and stop whining about it.
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #10 (permalink)  
Old 02-26-2005, 05:08 PM
Permanently Banned
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Posts: 220
Re: 1234567890

[/quote]the truth is most of you would agree probably if you were not imgs. must keep it in perspective. educate. make standards uniform for imgs. dont whinge.[/quote]

well said.
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On
Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Career, internship fair attracts 300 students azskeptic Ross University School of Medicine 1 03-10-2005 02:23 PM
VERY VERY IMPORTANT...IT'S FOR YOUR CAREER...VOTE YES IN CNN Mirinda Ross University School of Medicine 4 02-26-2005 03:19 PM
IS CALI APPROVAL REALLY THAT IMPORTANT? I DON'T THINK SO. asianTSwantsMD Main European Medical Schools Forum 126 01-24-2005 04:37 AM
Samar's Concern HERE! hope2bdoc Premed Forum 1 08-16-2004 06:28 AM
204 questions on Microbiology Anonymous USMLE Step 1 Forum 1 08-12-2004 11:10 PM


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 11:26 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.3
Copyright ©2000 - 2008, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.2.0 ©2008, Crawlability, Inc.
Copyright © 2003-2008 ValueMD, LLC. All rights reserved.
Home About Privacy Contact us Disclaimer Site Map Advertise

Site Meter

International Foreign and Caribbean medical schools,
ValueMD provides information on medical education from premed to residency