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Old 07-31-2004, 10:41 PM
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slam dunk for bush

here is a great article regarding what bush should do. i know you democrats will probably claim that rush is a biased conservative. however in this article he is just asking questions . he is not giving any answers. here goes. sorry its so long but its worth it.


Rush Hands Team Bush Keys to Re-election

We hope top Bush-Cheney strategists Karl Rove and Mary Matalin were tuned in to Rush Limbaugh's Friday radio broadcast, especially the segment where the top talker debuted what he called the "Commander-in-Chief Test."

If Bush campaign officials were listening in, what they got was a slam-dunk argument for President Bush's re-election that framed the case against John Kerry more eloquently and compellingly than anything so far offered by the White House. And we mean by miles.

"The Commander-in-Chief Test lets you be the history maker," Limbaugh began.
"First question: You're George Washington in 1776. You've lost every battle. The Revolution seems a bust. Your spies tell you that the British officers are wintering in Trenton. You think that means that the Germans are going to get falling-down drunk on Christmas Eve and sleep it off the next morning. However, they are the world's best soldiers and they'll beat you if they're awake, sober or not. Also, the Delaware River is full of ice and your guys have no food or shoes. Many New Jerseyites are Tories who might rat you out. Do you roll the dice to change the course of the war, figuring the Germans don't like fighting on Christmas, or do you wait for springtime rather than risk what little is left of the Continental Army?

"I just want to stress," the top talker interjected, "the answer to none of these [questions] is 'Call the United Nations.'

"Second Question: If you're Abe Lincoln in 1863, General Lee has crossed into the North, but no one knows where he's going. The Union Army has been beaten in most every battle so far, and if you lose on your own ground, the Union is likely lost to the South. Do you keep the Army away from Lee until he gets tired and heads back South, or do you send General Meade out looking for Lee even if they find that rascal in some crossroads town in Pennsylvania called Gettysburg?

"What do you do? What would Senator Kerry have done? "Third Question: You are the duty officer in Honolulu, December 7, 1941. Two soldiers manning the newly invented radar call to report a lot of blips on the screen. Headquarters had already advised you to expect a flight of American bombers from California that morning. So, do you sound the alarm to the fleet? Do you scramble the fighter planes and hope Rear Admiral Kimmel and General Short don't yell at you if you're wrong, or [do you] tell the radar guys their shift is ending anyway and not to worry about it?

"If you're John Kerry manning the radar, what do you do?

"Fourth Question: You are Franklin Delano Roosevelt in 1939. You've received a letter from the famous quirky physicist Albert Einstein recommending building an atomic bomb in order to beat the Nazis to the punch. Not really knowing what an atomic bomb is and not yet at war, do you ask Congress to study the matter and ask your intelligence operation to confirm if the Nazis are building one of these weapons themselves, or do you order secret development with money skimmed from other projects and hidden through phony congressional appropriations? Do you do the Manhattan Project?

"What do you do if you are John Kerry? Remember now, you can't call the U.N. At this point, it's the defunct League of Nations anyway.

"Fifth Question: You are Admiral Nimitz in 1942. Navy intelligence intercepted coded messages they reveal shows Japanese plans to steal the American island of Midway, but they also tell you Japanese could be planning attacks elsewhere. You know that banking on Midway would leave the door open elsewhere. Do you risk your aircraft carriers that escaped the Pearl Harbor attack, perhaps leaving no U.S. Fleet in the Pacific, or do you try catching the Imperial Fleet with the kimono open and reverse the course of the war at Midway?

"What do you do if you're John Kerry? Remember now, you can't call the United Nations. You can't call the French.

"Sixth Question: You are Dwight Eisenhower in June of 1944. Your weatherman tells you he sees a break in the bad weather and a narrow window for your landing forces to get on the beaches of Normandy. You hope, but you can't confirm, that allied disinformation has convinced Hitler the real invasion will be north. Do you risk a quarter million troops and the possibility of a stalemate in Europe, or do you say, 'Let's go,' rather than wait another month or two for D Day? (Remember, you can't call the United Nations.)

"What do you do if you're John Kerry? Remember, there's no turning back.

"Seventh Question: You're also Eisenhower in December 1944. Intelligence says the Germans are on the run. They're low on gasoline and ammo. The men deserve a break, and many officers want to leave for Christmas in Paris. How can the Germans possibly break through that dense forest? and knowing what we know from test question one, the Germans don't like to fight on Christmas. Do you ignore the intelligence and figure that Hitler will try to catch you with your pants down and inflict on the American Army its worst-ever disaster?

"What do you do faced with the Battle of the Bulge if you are John Kerry? "Eighth Question: You are Harry Truman in August of 1945. FDR's atomic bomb recommended by Einstein is tested successfully, and you have two more of bombs ready to use. The scientists who build the bomb are opposing its use. Intelligence reports suggest the Japanese are starving and on their last legs ready to talk turkey. American bombers are already turning many Japanese cities into cinders. Do you secretly advise the Japanese they can surrender now before you drop the bomb, or do you drop the bomb and ask questions later?

"What do you do if you're John Kerry?"

Limbaugh cited several other examples where presidents took critical risks that saved both America and the world, before delivering the coup de grace:

"You are President Bush in early 2003, just months after September 11 and anthrax. The Clinton administration had indicted Osama bin Laden, citing ties to Saddam Hussein, and had bombed a suspected bioweapons plant in Sudan with ties to Iraq. ...

"Intelligence suggests that terrorists met with others in Prague. U.N. weapons inspectors are being frustrated in Iraq. British intelligence says Saddam was trying to buy uranium in Africa. Saddam invaded Kuwait a decade before. He had used chemical weapons on his own people. One of the perpetrators of the first World Trade Center bombing had taken refuge in Baghdad. Families of Palestinian suicide bombers were paid by Iraq. The CIA director – originally appointed by Clinton – tells you it's a "slam dunk" that Saddam has weapons of mass destruction.

"The French are opposed to war with Iraq, saying their intelligence service believes Iraq still has weapons of mass destruction. Russian President Putin, [also] opposed to war with Iraq, tells you Russian intelligence believes Iraq has plans for terror assaults in the U.S. Most of the CIA contacts in Iraq are murdered.

"Do you wait to get more spies in the country to confirm the other intelligence, or do you go to Congress for a resolution supporting the use of force and then use the force?

"What would you do if you are John Kerry?" [End of Excerpt]

If team Bush is smart, it will borrow Limbaugh's "Commander-in-Chief Test" verbatim and simply repackage it as a campaign commercial. Or better yet, adapt some variation of the radio host's eye-opening national security history lesson for Bush's closing remarks in the final debate against John Kerry.
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Old 07-31-2004, 11:02 PM
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we can only hope

might not play so well in Marin County, CA or in W. Palm, but I think it works in most of America....at least those tuned in to reality

my good friend is a yellow-dog dem.
Her Dad was a union rep for many years.
I just gave her Linda Chavez's book Betrayal : How Union Bosses Shake Down Their Members and Corrupt American Politics
She **** a brick

speaking of fave books
Ialso recommend everything written by Michael Savage and ***** Elder as well as The Third Terrorist : The Middle East Connection to the Oklahoma City Bombing by Jayna Davis.

READ THIS AT YOUR OWN PERIL because you will get very angry at our gov't no matter what kind of mindless allegiance you swear to Bush and his ilk since there appears to be a different story in the Okla city bombing and this lady ( a local Okla city TV reporter ) spells it out pretty clearly in her book.
Why our gov't never followed up is amazin, as well as increbly sad
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The search for WMD continues...

http://www.allhatnocattle.net/george...g_his_nose.htm
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wow, i predicted a non-substance anti bush post from a poster named "HARVARD". we all know that the place is on pare with the peoples republic of berkely.

anyways....... i found this very interesting about the candidate who eats out with the COMMON PEOPLE. sure kerry, keep trying to act like you are a common person.

Kerry Edwards Nixed Wendy's, Feasted Instead on 5-Star Fare

When John Kerry, John Edwards and their wives descended on a Newburgh, N.Y., Wendy's restaurant on Friday for a "light" lunch with the common people, it was all just a photo op.

Team Kerry-Edwards had already ordered their real lunches - consisting of five-star gourmet food from a tony local restaurant - with instructions to have the haute cuisine ready for pickup after the top Democrats ditched Wendy's.

"A member of the Kerry advance team called Nikola’s Restaurant at the Newburgh Yacht Club the night before and ordered 19 five-star lunches to go that would be picked up at noon Friday," MidHudsonNews.com reported on Sunday.
"Management at the restaurant, which is operated by CIA graduate chef Michael Dederick, was told the meals would be for the Kerry and Edwards families and actor Ben Affleck who was with them on the tour."

After tossing out their cheeseburgers and chili, Kerry and Edwards feasted on shrimp vindallo, grilled diver sea scallops, prosciutto, wrapped stuffed chicken and steak salad.

The meals came to about $200, MidHudson News said.






oh harvard..... i pick my nose too
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Can't stand Michael Savage after that remark to the gay guy on the radio about how he hoped he'd choke on a wiener.
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Lighten up dude...

I wasn't making any political statement.
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hey wolf, ill be honest savage sometimes is over the top. in that case.......... god was he ever over the top. he has a lot of good points and i enjoy listening to him. but sometimes his neo conservatism scares me. he wont even vote for bush because he thinks he is too liberal. however, many of his points are valid.

now for this new virus that is called harvard, i dont know. wolf, can you explain the directions to the kindergarden forum. we have a very immature varment on the loose (savage style for ya). of should i say RED DIAPER DOPER BABY!!!!
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Lighten up dude...

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I wasn't making any political statement. Since you have your finger up your nose why don't you stick another up your a-hole.

wow, you are a real mature 42 year old. i hope you dont act this way in front of your children. show some maturity. start practicing it now, if not for your kids then for your future patients.
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hey wolf, ill be honest savage sometimes is over the top. in that case.......... god was he ever over the top. he has a lot of good points and i enjoy listening to him. but sometimes his neo conservatism scares me. he wont even vote for bush because he thinks he is too liberal. however, many of his points are valid.
Hope you don't mind I added the red font color.

I note that Hitler, another far right wing guy, also had a few good points:
  • 1. He quickly reversed the depression in Germany. (By cranking up the German war factories.)
    2. Germans loved his social program and speeches relating to it prior to the outbreak of WWII.

Sadly, that good point is always being overlooked because of his more intolerant comments. (Note the sarcasm dripping off that last sentence.)
And I know that Savage is just a radio commentator. But, once, Hitler was "just a painter".

Heh heh. I argue better than Harvard, huh.
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wow, i predicted a non-substance anti bush post from a poster named "HARVARD". we all know that the place is on pare with the peoples republic of berkely.

anyways....... i found this very interesting about the candidate who eats out with the COMMON PEOPLE. sure kerry, keep trying to act like you are a common person.

Kerry Edwards Nixed Wendy's, Feasted Instead on 5-Star Fare

When John Kerry, John Edwards and their wives descended on a Newburgh, N.Y., Wendy's restaurant on Friday for a "light" lunch with the common people, it was all just a photo op.

Team Kerry-Edwards had already ordered their real lunches - consisting of five-star gourmet food from a tony local restaurant - with instructions to have the haute cuisine ready for pickup after the top Democrats ditched Wendy's.

"A member of the Kerry advance team called Nikola’s Restaurant at the Newburgh Yacht Club the night before and ordered 19 five-star lunches to go that would be picked up at noon Friday," MidHudsonNews.com reported on Sunday.
"Management at the restaurant, which is operated by CIA graduate chef Michael Dederick, was told the meals would be for the Kerry and Edwards families and actor Ben Affleck who was with them on the tour."

After tossing out their cheeseburgers and chili, Kerry and Edwards feasted on shrimp vindallo, grilled diver sea scallops, prosciutto, wrapped stuffed chicken and steak salad.

The meals came to about $200, MidHudson News said.






oh harvard..... i pick my nose too
Just don't shake hands with me until you wash your hands, Scott....
Plus: Who cares what those guys ate? I seriously doubt Bush has had Wendy's in a long time. You probably haven't, either. Clinton used to eat McDonalds all the time, but people gave him grief over it. Whatever.

And I think Bush is actually massaging his scarred septum from those cocaine snorting days.....
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