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    White House drafts executive order for indefinite detention

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    ...the order establishes indefinite detention as a long-term O administration policy and makes clear that the White House alone will manage a review process for those it chooses to hold without charge or trial...

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    Good. At least some progress is being made on the prisoners' disposition. Instead of a blackhole with no judicial review, an official status is being created to at least begin the process of "closing" the prison there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tipton View Post
    Good. At least some progress is being made on the prisoners' disposition. Instead of a blackhole with no judicial review, an official status is being created to at least begin the process of "closing" the prison there.
    There is still going to be no judicial review - just executive review. I do agree, however, that this is slightly better than before.

    Am I wrong in thinking we both agree that giving the President such powers is not the ideal situation?
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    In A pinch, O will lean in favor of the prisoner

    I share your concern about the administration's smokes and mirror trick on this - but it does look like a step back on the possible closing of Guantanamo... as the released prisoners go right back to their place in the squad at their home squad - it is difficult for a star ideologue from the communities of Chicago try to use the same tricks in the bigger leagues - his charm is truly melting, and I doubt his mystique is holding traction in the world stage, beyond the discernment of other leaders of his "minor league' sophistry. I have a feeling the American people would rather take a vacation than re-elect this guy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slaol_121 View Post
    Am I wrong in thinking we both agree that giving the President such powers is not the ideal situation?
    It's a less than ideal solution to a horrible problem. Yes. If only our government had the brains and moral fortitude to have given these prisoners some official status to begin with we would not be in this situation.

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    A Hard Place to be

    What would you do in a situation where you have a terrorist who is very dangerous and is caught in a war zone and detained for war crimes - and you know that if you send them back (Lockerbie Bomber) they become heroes and rally their anti US-European freedom operatives, some even leading in their frontline actions (terrorism x2) - and kill more people.

    What would be the best way to truly protect the country from terrorism - now that we know a handshake and written agreements only seem to delay the inevitable - this seems to be the billion dollar question...

    I suspect that keeping Guantanamo will be the next campaign promise taken back by big "O" and it will be interesting what his teleprompter will say when he gives that speech... and I'm not sure that that's a bad idea - we'll see...

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    Quote Originally Posted by doctorcpal View Post
    What would you do in a situation where you have a terrorist who is very dangerous and is caught in a war zone and detained for war crimes - and you know that if you send them back (Lockerbie Bomber) they become heroes and rally their anti US-European freedom operatives, some even leading in their frontline actions (terrorism x2) - and kill more people.
    Uh...no. You charge them with a crime. Convict them of the crime. And sentence them accordingly. It's called justice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tipton View Post
    It's a less than ideal solution to a horrible problem. Yes. If only our government had the brains and moral fortitude to have given these prisoners some official status to begin with we would not be in this situation.
    Can't argue with this. Some of the blame also rests with us for letting our government get away with it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by doctorcpal View Post
    What would you do in a situation where you have a terrorist who is very dangerous and is caught in a war zone and detained for war crimes - and you know that if you send them back (Lockerbie Bomber) they become heroes and rally their anti US-European freedom operatives, some even leading in their frontline actions (terrorism x2) - and kill more people.

    What would be the best way to truly protect the country from terrorism - now that we know a handshake and written agreements only seem to delay the inevitable - this seems to be the billion dollar question...

    I suspect that keeping Guantanamo will be the next campaign promise taken back by big "O" and it will be interesting what his teleprompter will say when he gives that speech... and I'm not sure that that's a bad idea - we'll see...
    The Lockerbie bomber fiasco occurred because the British would rather secure oil interests than agree to send the prisoner to a Swiss prison - further proof that Governments are ofttimes corrupt and opportunistic, like the people who make up them.

    I agree with Tipton that these people should be charged with terror and given a formal sentence, or let go.
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